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Feeding Croc While holding baby, not a wise idea...
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Feeding Croc While holding baby, not a wise idea...
Crikey! That guy is a bloody idiot...
and thats why i want to live there. instead of idiot charges being filed against him or somehow somebody being able to file a lawsuit to get money they tell him he probably shouldnt have done that. bravo Oz.
Maybe he's just confident?
Yeah, he's even more of an imbecile than I previously thought he was.
The guy's been working with crocs his entire life. If there's anyone to trust around a croc, it's him. For him, that little stunt seemed about as dangerous as any other parent tossing their baby up into the air and catching it.
Best thing about that article is the link for Aligator Handbags at the bottom of the page.
Awesome.
I noticed that! :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Icepick
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What I saw of the incident showed that Irwin put himself between the kid and the croc. He was in more danger than his kid was; some of you are making it sound like he was dangling the damn kid into the lizard's mouth.
I'm not saying what he did was the right thing to do, but c'mon guys.
Now, if he got his sides mixed up and held on to the dead chicken and threw the baby to the alligators, THEN I would agree with you about him being an idiot.
The guy's been a crocodile handler his whole life - I'm sure the baby was perfectly safe. Chances are, there'd be more risk involved driving your kid to the supermarket.
On the other hand, doing that in front of an audience is a really dumb PR move, though.
The guy's been a crocodile handler his whole life - I'm sure the baby was perfectly safe. Chances are, there'd be more risk involved driving your kid to the supermarket.
On the other hand, doing that in front of an audience is a really dumb PR move.
I was more horrified that he wasn't supporting the neck of his one-month old child. But seriously, as if a croc can tell the difference between a dead chicken and a human baby. The guy's a wanker.
The footage of him holding his son close to the ground so it looked like he was running away from the croc was classic.
haha yeah.
He's actually hurt by alligations that he endangered his baby. The thing is, holding a baby near a fucking crocodile is dangerous. Its not rocket science.
There's a difference?Quote:
Originally Posted by AstroBlue
Eh, he's a good guy who made a bad PR move. That's it.
I wish Michael Jackson did that instead.
jesus, the media is like a bunch of fucking vultures now, everyone's looking for the next person to harp and rail on. It may have not been the wisest thing to do, but the guy is going to raise his kids however he wants (he just shouldn't have done it in public) and I'm glad the Child protective ppl are passing this over, there's no reason to press charges or whatever the fuck some ppl say they should do.
It's the number one news story in Australia at the moment. Headline:
Crocodile Hunter Steve Irwin's anger at being compared to Micheal Jackson
:lol:
Anyway, I don't think the Child Protection People in Australia (DoCS) would pull him up on that. Don't get me wrong, they're still a bunch of fat-childless-do-gooder-bitches-that-think-they-know-better-than-real-parents, but I think he'd have to be directly harming the child for them to care.
From what I heard on the news, was that the baby was a toy doll. Not a actual baby.
dittoQuote:
Originally Posted by Matt
No it was real, I think. It did seem pretty lifeless (like it was asleep). But newborns are so small that it's hard to tell. the limbs were fleshy, so it probably was his son or daughter.
He shouldnt've done it, but at the same time it's not that big of a deal. It's not like he was dangling his kid over the croc like previously said. And also like somebody already said: It's more harmful and disturbing to see him not support the head of the kid.
I wish the crocs had gotten you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Megatron
Wait-for-it...Wait-for-it...Wait-for-it...Quote:
Originally Posted by Icepick
Yeah, Kenshin, but keep in mind: Roy of Siegfried & Roy fame had been working with tigers for even longer than Irwin has with crocs, and that didn't stop one from nearly ripping his head off and permanently damaging him for life.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kenshin
It was stupid and irresponsible of Irwin to do something like that, what if the croc suddenly behaved erratically and attacked either him or his baby, I know Irwin's pretty strong and has been working with these animals for awhile, but the point is their still animals and it's hard to say if he would've been able to hold one off with one-hand while still protecting his infant son with the other.
Hell, that tiger had been trained by and worked on Roy Horn's show for years before attacking and nearly killing him for no real reason... :|
Large dogs can (and do) behave erratically and kill babies, but people still keep them around the house. How is that worse?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ragnarok the Red
The guy knows a million times as much about crocodiles than any of us do, so I don't think any of us are fit to criticize.
and even then, it would take them years to do anything about it, and they'd still do squat.Quote:
Originally Posted by AstroBlue
They need a shake up something harsh.
The tiger should get a medal for that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ragnarok the Red
a) Tigers are far more agile than crocodiles.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ragnarok the Red
b) Roy performed in much closer contact with tigers than Steve with crocs.
Sure, he had likely known the limitations of the crocodile's agility. While the baby may have been truly safe in this situation, the move is questionable at best when people are watching.
"OMG! Think of the CHILDREN!!!"
Crocodiles are pretty fast, they tell you to run in zigzags to get away from them because they suck at turning, but could easily catch up to an average (read=fat) person in a straight sprint. If that Crocodile wanted to eat that baby, there's not a single fucking thing Steve could do.Quote:
Originally Posted by gameoverDude
That's kinda like saying "If a speedy midget wanted the basketball, there's nothing a pro basketball player could do."Quote:
Originally Posted by AstroBlue
He KNOWS how to dodge those beasts. Like an insane aussie ninja or something.
Yeah astro, have you seen his show? He teases wild ones all the time and has been bitten like 2 or 3 times, with none of them being vital.
than again steve isnt making the crocs disappear in to little crates or do faggy magic stuff on a stage. those "magicians" got what they deserved.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ragnarok the Red
Yes, but even if there was practically no danger. Take it from a utilitarian perspective... benefit of baby being near croc < dangers of baby being near croc. Nothing good can come from him carrying his baby around like a ragdoll puppet in a croc enclosure. As I said, he didn't even support it's neck!Quote:
Originally Posted by Kenshin
He had an exclusive televison interview on Australian TV... he was the biggest dickhead, I wanted to bitch slap him. I felt sorry for the guy, and thought the media was attacking him unfairly... but I was wrong. The best bit was when he got completely PWNED by the interviewer, he said that he took his baby in to teach him about crocs as early as possible, and then the interviewer said that Child Behaviouralists are probably cringing at his comments because a one month old baby is not aware enough of the outside world to understand anything about crocs. Then he got a little mad and said that he's sick of people telling him things and he knows better as a parent. :yuck: Yeah because some dickhead who catches crocs knows better than 150 or so years of psychological research... :rolleyes:
He then basically said (inbetween the lines) that he felt sorry that the public was ignorant about crocs and there was no threat, and he was created by god to be the grand messiah of conservation to save the world... he's A WANKER!
Whoever is doing his PR is stupid, the best about face would of been for him to admit it was a dumb thing to do, and it was only because he was so passionate about crocs and conservation it blinded him to danger.
Oh well... I bet he's off Oprah's christmas card list now.
Crocs can be suprisingly agile, they can snap amazingly fast and bite down with tremendous force. Not to mention one month old babies are incredibly delicate, as anyone who's ever held once can attest, and even if the croc doesn't actually get ahold of the child, how fast the child would be jerked away from the animal to protect it could be enough to hurt them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kenshin
And, man, what are you talking about Roy performing closer to tigers than Steve does with crocs? Steve "performs" with crocs all the time, everytime he wrassles one down, or taunts one, or in any way makes physical contact with one for the camera, he's performing. Wherever he happens to do this and the croc is just happens to be his version of the stage. It's not terribly different.
I'll laugh when it happens to you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dragonmaster Dyne
I dont have a problem with what that crazy ass does, but when he starts actually dangling the kid over the crocodile, then i'll be worried lol.
When I saw this thread, I figured Crikey was croc food.