How would an ideal society be to you?

I want a huge mass extinction event to occur and be a part of the 2% of the populace to survive. Something like the world of Fist of the North Star, just not with giant people in biker gangs and dudes who can make your head explode with one finger.

As long as I still have a huge stash of pot seeds I'll be fine and I'm a natural scavenger.

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Originally Posted by Gohron

A rather basic world where technology existed 19th century type. Basically a less privaleged place then most of us live in today, from my experiance these type of societies seem to be better off and happier.

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Yea! So you can work in some factory 15 hours a day to make 30 cents, but you got this awful cough that is from all the inhalants you breathe in during work, but you can't quit or get any disability payments because there is no union and the factory can hire someone to take your place in 20 minutes. So you walk back home, into the cold snow and back to your tenement home where you are living with 5 other families. Oh, and your son? He has go to the factory, too, he's only 9 but you need the money. And your little daughter has a horrible case of food poisoning from the meat she ate last night and will probably die. But you have no recourse whatsoever.

Great times.

The idea that the 19th century or 18th century was a better time is a goddamn myth with no root in reality. Sure, if you are ultra-rich and on the upper crust of society it was great, but has there ever been a time in history when that was not the case?

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Originally Posted by Lobo

I'd like for religion to be less organized and more personal.

And what would actually make me totally happy: to live in a cityscape designed with the incorporation of the natural environment in mind with buildings in the same vein as those by architects Frank Gehry and Frank Lloyd Wright.

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Religion, for me, is entirely personal. There is no organization for worship because worship is archaic.

But that city would be like Rivendell heh.

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Originally Posted by diffusionx

Yea! So you can work in some factory 15 hours a day to make 30 cents, but you got this awful cough that is from all the inhalants you breathe in during work, but you can't quit or get any disability payments because there is no union and the factory can hire someone to take your place in 20 minutes. So you walk back home, into the cold snow and back to your tenement home where you are living with 5 other families. Oh, and your son? He has go to the factory, too, he's only 9 but you need the money. And your little daughter has a horrible case of food poisoning from the meat she ate last night and will probably die. But you have no recourse whatsoever.

Great times.

The idea that the 19th century or 18th century was a better time is a goddamn myth with no root in reality. Sure, if you are ultra-rich and on the upper crust of society it was great, but has there ever been a time in history when that was not the case?

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I only said 19th century technology:P I didn't mean a society based upon 19th century America or Europe. Although now that I think about it maybe go back in time a bit more (and I don't mean diseases either).

The same as we have now, but with poor people having consistently good housing, and thus providing people with jobs to take care of them on a hugely consistent basis with tons of funding. I'd eliminate the bottom rung altogether.

Probably impossible. So if it is, then just like it is now but with me having a trillion dollars in the bank.

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I only said 19th century technology:P I didn't mean a society based upon 19th century America or Europe. Although now that I think about it maybe go back in time a bit more (and I don't mean diseases either).

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You mean 19th century technology except for all of the modern technology that we would need to make up for many of the technological faults of the era? Because that sort of society is what we have now. If you want a safe "old timey" experience, go to a renaissance fair, or whatever it is they call the "19th century-ish" fair.

For me. .. I suppose everyone as a whole would be better off if people acted for the sake of everyone instead of themselves more often. A genuine shift to that sort of philosophy in certain aspects of life would be good, and an attempt making such a philosophy the law for people that actually believe it would probably cause problems, but I haven't given it much thought so I'll leave it at that.

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Originally Posted by MVS

Me as the only man to 20,000 women.

Get's no better than that for a good 14 years.

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I see a problem with that.

All the newspapers would read like Cosmo, stores would be stocked completely with feminine products, radio would be all schmaltzy love-songs, and TV would be nothing but shows like Oprah and Dharma and Greg.


Some things work best only in theory.

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Originally Posted by rezo

You mean 19th century technology except for all of the modern technology that we would need to make up for many of the technological faults of the era? Because that sort of society is what we have now. If you want a safe "old timey" experience, go to a renaissance fair, or whatever it is they call the "19th century-ish" fair.

For me. .. I suppose everyone as a whole would be better off if people acted for the sake of everyone instead of themselves more often. A genuine shift to that sort of philosophy in certain aspects of life would be good, and an attempt making such a philosophy the law for people that actually believe it would probably cause problems, but I haven't given it much thought so I'll leave it at that.

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Maybe I should've been more clear, basically I just mean independant working communities without focus on government or economy in a large scale manner. A world with little focus on all the BS that makes everybody so angry and miserable all the time.

I can't fathom an ideal world. I have to live in this one so I just make lemonade when need-be.

An ideal world would be steampunk themed.