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Originally Posted by sunshine
Just visuals? No audio. You also don't have a predefined set of actions and manneurisms a character brings to the movie (and those are not simply visual either).
When you write a book you end up with characters that have the same things. Most script writers will base characters off who they want to play the part, it's all the same. The writers of both will use a muse for inspiration for doing the exact same things.
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They developed the character to be a 1 dimensional monster killing machine with a secretive backstory they failed to explain thoroughly. The main protagonist, which is supposed to carry the story, wasn't given proper time to develop.
That's great. Now how about typing something relevant?
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Actually I said a lot above in this post that weren't properly explained which you needed to assume something in order for things to properly come together.
I'm terribly sorry you can't put 2 and 2 together without everything being spelled out in huge block letters. If you have no concept of insinuation why are trying to comprehend stories in the first place? At least that explains why you think KB's story was so great, it was so childish in its simplicity that you couldn't get lost even if you didn't watch 3/4s of the movie.
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How did Van Helsing get Dracula's ring? Lets bring this up for no reason and leave everybody wondering... great idea.
VH took it from him when he slayed him as Gabriel. Boy, that was a toughie.
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So it's not a plot hole that their big escape, the reason that they were driven back to Draculas castle to save Anna (or the 'ball' for the trade... and suddenly there's vampires in the graveyard to retrieve a hidden Frankenstein, which was totally omitted as well. Just a big "WE FOUND HIM" and that's it) isn't a hole in the story?
Their big escape which was their reason to go back to Dracula's castle... ? What are you talking about? I'm guessing you typed that wrong, please try again.
As for suddenly there's vampires in the graveyard, the undead tend live in graveyards. For all your talk of horror movies I'd imagine you actually knew something about them.
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Don't even tell me it's not.
It's not.
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Take it away and you... have someone going for revenge for their own personal gain.
You know what's funny? The way that doesn't change the story. Thanks for proving my point.
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Evil destroys itself usually through the big character flaw of the main protagonist. Whether it be greed, ambition, or women. Dracula destroys himself by... keeping something he apparently hates around to be electricuted... then after that lets it back out in to the wild for no reason.
First off, it doesn't matter that he lets it back into the wold. I've already gone over this, stop bringing it up! He has total control over the werewolves, they can only hurt him in a specific situation which that werewolf and at least the one before it was never in. Hell, they went over that in the movie, stop proving you weren't watching it.
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I'm getting tired of arguing Van Helsings story > Kill Bills story. It was fun but there really isn't much of an arguement here.
You never had an argument.
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A) Not trying, did.
And we're so proud you finally found one after listing most of the movie and waiting for someone to point which one was the actual plot hole.
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B) Point out me not being able to define words and I'll give you some credit here.
"Story" (even when given the actual definition you still couldn't get it) is a major one and "writing" in the context of what writing for stories is (that's "writing for stories" not "writing stories," in case you get confused again).
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C) Your need to find flaws in the unedited or formatted posts of posters in which you argue with instead of continuing arguements is a weak way to draw attention off your even weaker reasoning (which is Van Helsing was innovative and different so therefore it is better).
:lol: First off, you've been proven on numerous occasions to use words you didn't know the definitions of by Stone, StriderKyo, and I. Next, you kept trying to make a point and would then contridict yourself. That's not weak reasoning on my part, that's your inability to keep straight what you're trying to say from one post to the next. If you have no clue what you're talking about don't try to say I have no argument just because I pointed that out.
Finally, "unedited or formatted?" It's up to you to edit your posts, if you can't form coherent thoughts don't complain when others can't read it. And why would I complain if it was formatted? Do you mean "formatted improperly?"Obviously you do. Your speech on type was fucking hysterical, I'm glad to see that you're still arguing inconsequental details. I've read books with plenty of different fonts in plenty of different sizes and not once has it ever effected the story, characters, mood, or my ability to read.
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For something that billed itself to be the rejuvination of the classic monster franchises it certainly does an amazing job at shitting all over the history.
Plenty have said the same of KB in regards to kung-fu. Your point?
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If it was it was written in such an illogical fashion that you have to be connecting all dots yourself in order to follow along properly.
Don't worry, one day you'll be able to move up to the young adults section of the bookstore.
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Originally Posted by Captain Vegetable
Hell! A revenge plot line could stem from the main villian breaking the main hero's last No. 2 pencil.
But then you'd be missing the real story, which is that the hero actually had a desk at home where he normally kept his pencils but threw it out when he got a new one. Or whatever.
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you are guilty of creating a strawman argument in order to further your dislike of the movie
He's been doing that this whole time. He's still trying bring up points as flaws that were explained in the movie close to HERE. IT. HOW. THIS. WORKS. way that he likes it.
