http://www.jumptheshark.com/
This is a great site and I encourage everybody who doesn't know about it to check it out.
It has been mentioned on the boards before but never with its own thread. Just thought some of you would think it cool.
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http://www.jumptheshark.com/
This is a great site and I encourage everybody who doesn't know about it to check it out.
It has been mentioned on the boards before but never with its own thread. Just thought some of you would think it cool.
I think the phrase "jumped the shark" jumped the shark at the very least 4 years ago.
That doesn't make the site any less cool.
I mean, I mean YOU jumped the shark 4 years ago...
Good one me.
You know where the phrase "jumped the shark" came from, right?
Of course. Happy Days. What does that have to do with anything?
PS: I wasn't championing the term, I was championing the site. Look above ^
Just making conversation. I love Happy Days.
And I've known about the site for at least 4 years, hence my original statement.
I wonder when TNL "jumped the shark"?
It's a pretty cool site. I love the Diff'rent Strokes section where they talk about the "very special" child molester episode where the old guy that ran the bicycle shop tried to get Arnold and Dudley drunk and fuck them up the ass. Or the Facts of Life episode where someone actually tried to rape Natalie, like anyone would actually try at attempt any sort of sexual contact with that fat ulgy puss-bucket.
Jesus, those really happened? Now I wish I'd actually been watching sitcoms back in the day.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dolemite
That site seems to have something against Ted McGinley. Beats me why, he ruled as Jefferson on Married with Children.
Eh that site's cool if you watch alot of television, I can't be arsed to keep up with any of those shows though, the only thing I make an effort to watch regularly is Globetrekker.
Dude, the bicycle shop owner/molester(Gordon Jump) was the station manager of WKRP in Cincinnati which was weird enough. Sitcoms always did those "special' eps.
I remember he made Arnold and Dudley play "Jungle Adventure" with their shirts off while he took pictures.
So, what does "jump the shark" mean, anyway?
I guess it's these people's hobby, which is cool and all, but I never could understand the point or interest in knowing all this stuff. People on that site know names of producers, directors, everything they've ever done, completely unknown second string actors and their histories, the tiniest, most trivial facts about their tv shows... I'd literally have to have an actor's bio database website open right along with that one to follow it at all.
You've been handed a website called jumptheshark.com and you're still asking?Quote:
Originally Posted by Captain Vegetable
http://www.jumptheshark.com/about.htm
From the previous comments, I assumed that the way the site uses the phrase is incorrect, and was inquiring as to it's actual meaning.
Was I wrong?
OK, CV:
Near the end, Happy Days had an episode where the cast goes to Hawaii. The Fonz is shown water-skiing, jumping a ramp, and jumping over a shark. Many see it as the exact moment when Happy Days went from a good show to crap.
Get it?
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Originally Posted by Mzo
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Originally Posted by Mzo
The site is a result of the expression that has been in use since the 70s.
There were 2 things being talked about here. The site, and the expression. The expression has been around forever, and the site is new to me.
I must suck at the internet. Somebody post the pic.
The Simpsons jumped the shark with the Frank Grimes episode. This is the truth, I will hear no debate.
As Mzo stated it's in reference to Happy Days. Dude, the Happy Days episode where he jumped the shark was done in the 80s, IIRC.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
http://www.wordspy.com/words/jumptheshark.asp
http://www.thedoor.ws/images/fonziejumping.jpg
I knew diff was going to go with the Simpsons...although even a bad episode of that is better than a good episode of most shows, thanks to the voice cast just being fantastic. Recent eps have brought the show almost back to its former glory.
Bad episodes are bad episodes. And bad Simpsons is one of the worst shows on TV. It's just not funny. Sure, it may be better than a good episode of most shows, but most TV shows are utter and complete shit. If a bad episode of The Simpsons is better than those, its still utter shit.Quote:
I knew diff was going to go with the Simpsons...although even a bad episode of that is better than a good episode of most shows, thanks to the voice cast just being fantastic.
I wouldnt know. But I am skeptical.Quote:
Recent eps have brought the show almost back to its former glory.
Thanks, Mzo. I understand now. :D
diffX: It's not true. Recent episodes are better. But it's hard not to get worse when you've hit the bottom. They're definitely better, but they're no where near seasons 3 - 9 caliber.
Aw. I thought this was about a new FOX reality show where people try to steal shit from sharks. :(
Any guesses on when this show would jump the shark?Quote:
Originally Posted by cka
'78? I think it was either '78 or '79.Quote:
Originally Posted by soundwave
Beats me. Like any FOX reality show, I would stay as far away as possible. There is better stuff on TV, for instance the prevue and weather channels.
The term may have been coined in the 80s though...
Is that when irreverent crap kept happening and Homer became dumb as a stump? Is this where the writing became crap? If so, I agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by diffusionx
Hey Master,
You were right, I did some research and episode 90 of season 5 of Happy days had the shark jumping:
http://www.tvtome.com/tvtome/servlet...d-270/season-5
Which aired 9/13/1977. If you think about it Happy Days lasted another 7 YEARS after that.
Master of course you agree. You can't disagree with fact.
Ahhhhhh.
Then how come people do it here all the time?
Actually I really liked that episode. I thought the Simpsons Jumped the Shark when they killed Maude.
*pushes glasses up*
I thought Simpsons jumped the shark at the end of the gun episode, where Marge puts the gun into her purse. Really, that was completely out of character and the humanity of the show began to slowly leech out from thereon.
The Frank Grimes episode was the first one that made me want to scream "What the fuck is your problem, you asshole?" at Homer, but the episode is still pretty funny.
I think the Simpson Jumped the Shark a long time ago. When you have an episode, where Homer is the mascot for the Springfield baseball team and you find nothing funny about it, you have to wonder if the writing has gone stale.
Happy Days pretty much died, when Richey left the show. When the Fonz jumped the shark, it was probably the last episode the Richy appeared in. All this Cousin Jenny, Fonz the teacher crap, was too much to handle.
Which came first, the FG one or this? The FG one was still the JTS episode. Like I said, I will hear no argument.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sqoon
No it wasn't.Quote:
The Frank Grimes episode was the first one that made me want to scream "What the fuck is your problem, you asshole?" at Homer, but the episode is still pretty funny.
As I stated in the previous page Fonz jumped the shark in episode 90--Richie was around for years after that. In any case I believe a long running series can jump the shark and jump back--maybe even several times. Some shows never recover though.Quote:
Originally Posted by gamevet
Also Frank Grimes appeared in Season 8 in the episode "Homer's Enemy" -- the "Cartridge Family" was season 9 where Homer gets a gun--it was actually pretty funny.
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Originally Posted by g0zen
you never saw the radioactive timmy episode of lassy did you?
What's the deal with this Frank Grimes episode of The Simpsons? I never saw it. Why was it so bad?
why am i reading thiss. i ask my self
The FG one was towards he end of Season 8 and the gun one was towards the beginning of Season 9.Quote:
Originally Posted by diffusionx
Oh, you'll be hearing it boyo.Quote:
Like I said, I will hear no argument.
It's an episode where a man named Frank Grimes moves to Springfield and works at the power plant. He's suffered his whole life while Homer coasts on by. Eventually, he keeps on getting in trouble because of Homer's idiocy and when he dies (he goes insane while trying to prove Homer's a moron to the town), Homer falls asleep at his funeral and makes rude comments.Quote:
What's the deal with this Frank Grimes episode of The Simpsons? I never saw it. Why was it so bad?
This one does start a few trends we see a lot now in the new Simpsons (endless self-referencing and in-jokes and an absolutely inhumane approach to the characters). It's still a pretty funny episode (Hank Azaria, who I think did Grimes voice, does a hilarious and fantastic job); don't listen to diffusionx, there are still a few great episodes after this one (the gun episode, the New York episode, the origin of Lisa's Sax epsiode)
Wait, I remember this episode. At one point wasn't Homer upset that Grimes didn't like him so he invited him over to dinner, which (of course) turned out to be a disaster as well, with Grimes flipping out at how big Homer's house was while he lived in a tiny run-down apartment? I haven't seen that one in a while but I remember it being pretty funny.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sqoon
Diff, is it that you don't like this episode, or you do and it just signals The Simpsons 'jumping the shark' to you?
He lived in an apartment that was above a bowling alley, that was above another bowling alley.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dolemite
This season has been much improved so far... but I wouldn't go that far. Simpsons should have been canceled a while back and Futurama left on the air.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeremy
Dude... that episode was around season 2 or 3. :wtf:Quote:
Originally Posted by gamevet
Yes, I will say the New York episode rules.
Too bad it featured the twin towers so prominently as they don't show it on syndication anymore...
I think that's about where I would put it as well. There really wasn't any good reason to kill her off.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tracer
Oh, there were a couple of good episodes after the Grimes episode, but the Grimes episode was a turning point, after which it turned to shit. Simpsons got really shaky and subpar after the Grimes episode, and after a year or two of "subpar", it just got "completely terrible beyond all belief".Quote:
This one does start a few trends we see a lot now in the new Simpsons (endless self-referencing and in-jokes and an absolutely inhumane approach to the characters). It's still a pretty funny episode (Hank Azaria, who I think did Grimes voice, does a hilarious and fantastic job); don't listen to diffusionx, there are still a few great episodes after this one (the gun episode, the New York episode, the origin of Lisa's Sax epsiode)
No. I hate the episode with every fiber of my being. It was the beginning of the end for my favorite show on TV. It was awful. Why did they change Homer so much? There was no reason for it. Why didnt anybody say "hey, wait a minute, Homer's not like this" and then redo the episode? It was just crap. There was no care or anything put into it, it was all done for cheap laughs and the quick joke, and the characters you loved for years can be damned.Quote:
Diff, is it that you don't like this episode, or you do and it just signals The Simpsons 'jumping the shark' to you?
And this is exactly what Simpsons became not too long after this episode.
I think the last episode I watched was in Season 10 or 11, it was one where it might have had U2, or any of a million other celebrities theyve trotted out over the years. It was so awful... I just couldnt watch it anymore.
I think the celebrity thing is there biggest problem with Jumping the Shark. It went from an every once in a while thing, to a let's fill half the season with celebrities thing, which is pure shit.Quote:
Originally Posted by diffusionx
They're falling into that trap with this season, although at least the celeb cameos are kept short. The worst one was with the rock and roll camp, ugh, nine billion musicians cracking bad jokes. George Meyer said in an interview once that he wasn't sure when Homer became a complete and total fool, but that it just kind of happened. Thankfully, Homer's intelligence is above an ape during this season, so far anyway.
I do agree that The Simpsons have gone from one of the best show ever to being shit. They really should just kill it off.
They won't though, as the show has too much of a following, and it's the only thing on Fox that gets consistently great ratings.
I always liked the Frank Grimes episode actually and go with the others who said killing Maude was the Jumping the shark point. I haven't really watched it on Sunday's for the past couple years except for last weeks show where they killed Snowball II, III, IV (Named Coltrane), then got V and just renamed her II. It was pretty silly but it got a few laughs out of me.
The thing I don't really like about the new episodes of the Simpsons is the digital painting. Something about it just doesn't look right.
Well, the animation teams for the Simpsons could still be getting used to drawing the characters digitally rather than by hand, so that might account for it. Also, Dancin' Homer (the mascot one) was done by two non-staff writers, David Isaacs and Ken Levine, who later did the soapbox derby racer episode. Both are two of my favorite episodes thoughout the entire run of the series.
The voice actress who played Maude committed suicide (she was also the mayor in South Park IIRC)--don't know if that was significant enough to "retire" the character. Lionel Hutz, for example is not "dead" though he is never used.Quote:
Originally Posted by bbobb
Now I'm thinking of Phil Hartman, and I'm depressed again.
Um, that was a different voice actress. Maggie Roswell did Maude, and a few other voices, and "left" when she was getting her pay cut, and still had to pay out of her pocket to fly out to do recording sessions for the characters.
I just learned this phrase last Saturday. Odd coincidence to see a thread on it...Quote:
Originally Posted by Mzo
Once you hear a new word or phrase, it pops up everywhere.
It was always there, now you're on the lookout for it.
There was no reason to kill her, especially considering that that episode was HORRIBLE in every single way. And it was Homer's fault (he bent over to pick up some crap when the t-shirt hit her)! And I dont see Ned and Maude attending a race track ever, but that might just be me.
Thanks Jeremy, I was misinformed...Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeremy
True, true.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mzo
http://www.jumptheshark.com/s/seinfeld.htm
When did Seinfeld jump the shark? I say it was the final episode, which was just plain horrible for about 1857 reasons.
I would also probably say it was the final episode, but before that... I dont think it did.
Actually, wait. The 2nd to last episode, when Kramer set the Puerto Rican flag on fire. Not cool.
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Originally Posted by bbobb
I would'nt know, but I recall seeing the episode a couple of years ago and Fox was advertising it as a new one. Maybe it was'nt, but it was hardly funny, when compared to earlier seasons. I'm more of a casual veiwer of the show myself, but it seems like every time I watch a syndicated episode, I've seen it before. So, maybe I've watched more of the Simpsons, than I think I have.
Not to mention the breif but show ruining part if Clevis in the back of his truck with his sister. Horrible.Quote:
Originally Posted by diffusionx