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That may likely be the case, but I'm sure it would bring us a new branch in office if he should win the race. Of course he's not going with the green party this time and it's going to be pretty hard for him to even be noticed just for starting this late.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wolffen
He's gonna have to pray luck runs on his side with the people he was asking votes from 4 years ago.
We'll see about the envoirment later, however Gore was connected with Clinton in their dealings with the Chinese and Koreans. While none of this is publically proven (Clinton did however assist the NoKos with their nuclear program) there is pretty good evidance that suggests so. I personally think Clinton is a traitor and should spend the rest of his life rotting in prison. Lying to your country is bad, you shouldn't be President, but selling nuclear tech to our unstable enemies who will without a doubt build nuclear weapons with it for personal gain is another thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by burgundy
ok just a thought, and not trolling, but a serious, heartfelt commnet, nader will never win..ever, not if the republican is a active member of the ku-klux-klan, and the democrat is a member of nambla, never, so its pointless to really even discuss what will happen if nader gets in, because he wont, ever. I too am not a fan of the strict 2 party system, because i dont like either choice, kerry or bush, but until there are enough parties simultaneously out there so as not to have a house united vurses a house divided, third party guys only help those who they least agree with.Quote:
Originally Posted by voltz
So, they'd be sharing a cell with Rumsfeld, correct? And Reagan while we're at it.
Fringe third parties help out the constituencies of fringe third parties. Nader voters have shown that they cannot be ignored by the Democratic Party just as Buchanon voters in the past showed that they cannot be ignored by the GOP.Quote:
Originally Posted by frostwolf ex
Hey, if there was an investigation into the matter and they were found guilty of something like the situation I mentioned above then yes, they should be in jail. I'm not too big on Rumsfield but I'm a bit of a Reagen fan, but doesn't matter to me, a traitor is a traitor, Democrat or not.Quote:
Originally Posted by burgundy
Nader was not the only cause of Gore's loss, true, but he was definitely a contributing factor. I hate the two party system, but throwing your hat into the ring 8 months before the election seems like a waste. I realize he will not have as much of an effect on this election as he did in 2000, but he will have an effect, nonetheless. One thing the primaries have shown me thus far is that more people are paying attention and getting involved. Come election time, I think we'll have record turnout from both parties, and from independents. I think it's going to be close no matter what. Other than a potential chance of getting in a debate to decry the 2 party system, what is Nader going to accomplish? His efforts would be better served working on a campaign for 2008 starting right now, than it would be spending the next 8 months just trying to get on ballots.Quote:
Originally Posted by burgundy
But hey, that's just my opinion, I could be wrong. [/dennismiller]
Your statement and Bush's lack of leadership on alternative fuels is horrifyingly ignorant. Government subsidies to oil companies keep gasoline prices lower in the US than anywhere else on Earth. If we were to pay for the true price of gas, consumers would drive SUV's out of the automobile market, and people would want to buy hybrid cars with much higher MPG ratings.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gohron
Our comfortable way of life was built up by petroleum, which takes hundreds of thousands or even millions of years to form but only decades to rip out of the ground. We could be just a few years away from when humanity has drilled half of the total available oil on Earth. At that moment--not when the last drop has been pumped--the US and other oil-based economies will face a permanent oil crisis like the temporary crisis in 1973. A permanent oil crisis with no energy alternatives will bring massive inflation and job loss.
Marketable fuels require years to develop. Although we could temporarily build more nuclear reactors (yet those take years to bring on line and U235 is a finite element), hydroelectric dams (reservoirs silt up), etc, those could only provide energy for houses, buildings, etc. Cars and transporatation requires movable fuel. We could start mining oil shale and harvesting ethanol from corn, but such sources require so much energy imput to transform into something useable that it's not feasable. Furthermore, petroleum is non-renewable and needs to be saved for practical purposes like medicines, plastics, etc.
The only answer to maintain our current way of life beyond 2020 is to harvest solar energy--create massive fields of solar panels. We'll still need to devise a way to change that energy into a transportable fuel. It sounds crazy, but it's still far less crazy than worrying about paying $2.00 a gallon.
For more info, go here or read Out of Gas: The End of the Age of Oil by David Goodstein, physicist from California Institute of Technology.
Ah ha ha... Man, I thought this race was going to suck. Boy, was I wrong! Pwned by Nader.
This kind of thinking is keeping John Edwards from having a chance. :(Quote:
Originally Posted by frostwolf ex
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