Democratic Primary Discussion Thread

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Originally Posted by frostwolf ex

oppetunistic reanimated cadaver

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LOL.

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Some bipartisan political "satire" that highlights our upcoming Nov. choices. Server might be busy so try a few refreshes later if you can't get it first time around. Howard Dean's talents never get old it seems.

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Originally Posted by Yoshi

Agreed. Clinton increased the debt by 1.7/4 = 42.5%. Bush has increased it 1.4/5.7 = 24.6%. Raw numbers don't mean shit without context. Maybe it does take a math major...

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...to add two terms together?

You guys are so fucking funny. Decreasing the debt != Making it increase slower. Factor in the fact that Clinton's cutting of defense and intelligence spending in large part contributed to 9/11, and then do a cost analysis of his Presidency. He accomplished absolutely nothing, which is why he will be remembered only for Monica. It doesn't cost much to do nothing.

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Originally Posted by Yoshi

You guys are so fucking funny.

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lol.

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Originally Posted by RedCoKid

Who said anything about decreasing the annual debt? I'd like to see the debt totally balanced (not including government-issued bonds, etc). My checkbook is balanced, so why shouldn't I expect the same from our government? I thought conservatives were supposed to share this value.

From the government's perspective, tax = income and spending = expenses. To balance a budget, if you cut taxes, you should also cut spending. If you raise spending, you should raise taxes. I don't care which strategy government chooses as long as it picks one. Bush Jr has simultaneously cut taxes and increased spending, which is why the record surplus has turned into a record deficit.

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In his semi-defense, I doubt Bush saw all of this war stuff coming when he pushed on a tax-cut ticket when he ran. Then again, I agree that all things should be in balance when you budget, so taxes ought to go up to pay for all this spending, or spending should go down. Overspending is what sent CA's economy down the hole, and now the richest state in the US has the worst credit rating around. And then people complain when taxes go up, or spending on certain programs goes down.

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Originally Posted by Yoshi

Factor in the fact that Clinton's cutting of defense and intelligence spending in large part contributed to 9/11,

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"Contributed in large part?" Like, it was largely his fault? A bunch of lunatics flying planes into buildings caused 9/11. Can you honestly sit there and tell me that if there'd been a defence budget increase it wouldn't have happened? Like, they were going to have moles higher up in Al Qaeda, it was just too expensive? Airport security would've noticed something if only they knew the intelligence budget was larger?

Come on.

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Originally Posted by StriderKyo

"Contributed in large part?" Like, it was largely his fault? A bunch of lunatics flying planes into buildings caused 9/11. Can you honestly sit there and tell me that if there'd been a defence budget increase it wouldn't have happened? Like, they were going to have moles higher up in Al Qaeda, it was just too expensive? Airport security would've noticed something if only they knew the intelligence budget was larger?

Come on.

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If Clinton chose to fight terrorists instead of getting his cock sucked by Monica Lewinsky and going to therapy, then, well, its likely that 9/11 would not have happened. People love to talk about how the Clinton years were an "era of peace and prosperity", and while the latter is true the former is definitely not. There were plenty of terrorist attacks against Americans throughout the world, Clinton knew about bin Laden's will to kill Americans and he knew about his ability to pull it off, yet he chose to do nothing more than fire a few missiles at a few caves.

There was a war going on during Clinton's years, he just chose not to fight it.

Apparently Clinton tried to assassinate Bin Laden at least once. After Sept. 11 he related to the media a story about how they fired on a convoy transporting Bin Laden but hit the wrong vehicle.

Well, so we should all applaud him for failing at one attempt, then giving up and passing it off to his successor.

Diff, you're a ridiculous republican.