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Originally Posted by Calliander
I think this just got Kerry a bit of silent backing from up here north of the border:
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Originally Posted by Captain Vegetable
For me its simple,
bush vs.kerry frosty's vote goes to bush,
bush vs. dean, frosty's vote goes to bush,
Bush vs Lieberman, frostys vote goes to Leiberman.
Ah, Dean is fucking toast. He's replaced the $200 million dollar man, Mr. Move-On-Belle-of-the-Internet, Joe Trippi, with Gore's campaign manager. Hah.
Honestly, I don't understand the move. Dean's got 6 days to figure out how to get 1st place in a state, or he's dead in the water - how is an OFFICIAL, broadly publicized change in campaign manager going to do anything other than cover Dean's campaign in a fine veneer of flop sweat?
It's not like Kerry changing horses midstream a few months ago - Dean's changing his horse while getting tossed around in the rapids.
Man, I like it, not because I dislike Dean's politics (he's nothing like what he made himself out to be - if he ran as who he was in Vermont, I would've supported him) but because I dislike who he was catering to. Dean's going to be a joke during presidential seasons for years to come.
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I'd vote for Bush over Dean, now. I'm split on Kerry, and I would've voted for Lieberman over Bush in a second.Quote:
bush vs.kerry frosty's vote goes to bush,
bush vs. dean, frosty's vote goes to bush,
Bush vs Lieberman, frostys vote goes to Leiberman.
Lieberman's record in the senate is more liberal than Kerry's. Lieberman is not a Republican. He is the epitome of a conservative Democrat. His moral compass is impeccably tuned, he's honest, he's trustworthy, he's funny as all hell, he's brilliant, he's hardworking, he's someone you could hang around with, he's the type of person our country ought to have as president - and he's not a scum-sucking fucking psycho, so he can't win the base of either party, Democrat or Republican. Whichever party can elect the candidate most similar to Lieberman is the one I'm prone to vote for.
If Lieberman's brain, heart, and history could be infused with John Edwards' look, accent, and religion, then we'd have the Democratic President Joe Liebwards - someone who would be on a sizable proportion of Top 5 Greatest Presidents Ever lists by 2012.
I like Dean, but he's dead. I'm happy with Kerry or Edwards, and I'd still vote Clark over Bush. I do not like Lieberman, period.
I'm actually starting to warm up to Edwards, he's got that Clinton-esque persona. He should atleast get Vice-President no matter who the final nominee is. I'd be all about a Kerry / Edwards ticket.
Something else that's got me kinda stoked, is all these record turn outs for the Democratic primaries. Hopefully, this will mean a record turn out in the National Election. I've got a good feeling about this November.
I think that's what's going to happen. The biggest concern Democrats seem to have is kicking Bush to the curb, and I think that's the most important thing here.Quote:
Originally Posted by g0zen
One question:
http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/
Total delegates are listed here. How in the world can Dean, who finished 3rd in Iowa and 2nd in New Hampshire, have 19 more delegates than Kerry, who finished 1st in Iowa and 1st in New Hampshire?
Superdelegates - there's a ton of them out there, and most of them pledge their votes to one candidate or another before Iowa. Dean's front-runner status before the primaries earned him a lot of superdelegates that are still theoretically committed to voting for him (although they can change their vote whenever they want).
I was curious about that too. Thanks.