Your Top 15 Sega Games

you can put a series down if you want.

15. Skies of Arcadia
One of the handfull of RPGs that i enjoyed playing quite a bit. i liked the games style, characters, and setting.

14. Virtua Tennis
best Tennis game since Super Tennis (up until that point). great controls, music, and excellent multiplayer.

13. Virtual On Series
easily my favorite mech game. great style, character designs, and action.

12. ChuChu Rocket
possibly my favorite puzzle game. ranks in my top 3 with Puzzle Fighter and Tetris Attack.

11. Fantasy Zone
man, i love everything about this game. everything about it is fantastic.

10. Streets of Rage Series
great style, amazingly good music, and an awesome game to play when drunk. especially part 1. didn't spend much time with part 3, but at one point in time, all i needed out of my Genesis, or even gaming for that matter, was Streets of Rage 2.

9. Jet Set Radio Series
ah, the days of Dreamcast's prime. this game just did everything right.

8. Space Harrier
beautiful game. really awesome style, good music, and just a joy to play or watch.

7. Daytona USA
it's Daytona. what more needs to be said?

6. Sega Rally Series
to this day, this is my favorite Rally Racing game. i still prefer it over the very good Rally Racing modes from other games too.

5. Super Hang-On
it' just Motorcycle racing action. with super good music that's keeps up with the action no less. easily the best Motorcycle racing game ever. i'll take this over Namco's MotoGP series even.

4. Shenmue Series
this game just has something about it. i dunno, i can't really explain it, but like, i just get happy thinking about it.

3. Phantasy Star Online Series
my first real online gaming experience. i spent a lot of time with this one, and even played it for 3 days straight when i first got my hands on it.

2. OutRun
this game is just special. it does everything right, and then some. i can never say no to this game. easily one of the best games of all time.

1. Rez
perfection. it blended everything flawlessly. i don't know what to add. this would easily make it into my top 20 of all time.

other Sega games that i'd like to play more of, or just play all together are Super Monkey Ball, Cosmic Smash, Super GT, F335 Challenge. i really do get the feeling that if i play F355 Challenge, it's gonna make it on to the list without effort.

15. Jet Set Radio
14. Panzer Dragoon
13. Sonic Advance 2
12. Shenmue
11. Space Harrier
10. Outrun
9. Alex Kidd in Miracle World
8. Shinobi
7. Die Hard Arcade
6. Daytona
5. Sonic the Hedgehog 2
4. Panzer Dragoon Zwei
3. Nights... into dreams...
2. Rez
1. ChuChu Rocket! (GBA)

This is going to be hard, but I am not going to cop out and put any series. Here goes...

15. Shinobi III (Genesis)
14. Golden Axe (System 16?)
13. Virtua Cop 2 (Model 2)
12. Shining the Holy Ark (Saturn)
11. Sega Rally Championship (Model 2)
10. House of the Dead 2 (Model 3)
9. Sonic the Hedgehog (Genesis)
8. Shenmue II (Dreamcast)
7. Phantasy Star IV (Genesis)
6. Streets of Rage 2 (Genesis)
5. Shining Force II (Genesis)
4. Panzer Dragoon Saga (Saturn)
3. Jet Grind Radio (Dreamcast)
2. Sonic CD (Mega CD)
1. Daytona USA (Model 2)

edit: Saga replaced PD1 to shut bbobb and diffx the fuck up.

In no particular order (and probably forgetting a few):

1. Rez (PS2)
2. F-Zero GX/AX (GC/AC)
3. Virtua Fighter 4 Evolution (PS2/AC)
4. Jet Set Radio (DC)
5. Outrun 2 (AC)
6. Sakura Taisen (DC)
7. Azel Panzer Dragoon RPG (SS)
8. Shining Force 3 scenarii 1-3 (SS)
9. Bare Knuckle 2 (MD)
10. Ristar (MD)
11. Sonic Adventure (DC)
12. Sonic 3 & Knuckles (MD)
13. Moonwalker (AC)
14. Shinobi (PS2)
15. Shenmue 1&2 (DC)

Hmm (Im sure I've forgotten lots).

Scud Race (Arcade)
Samba de Amigo (DC/Naomi)
Sakura Taisen 3 (DC)
Virtua Fighter 4 Evo (Arcade)
Jet Set Radio (DC)
Shenmue 1&2 (DC)
Daytona USA (Arcade)
House of the Dead 2 (DC/Naomi)
Shinobi 3 (Megadrive)
Bare Knuckle 2 (Megadrive)
Panzer Dragoon Zwei (Saturn)
Rez (DC)
Sonic (Megadrive)
Nights (Saturn)
Sega Rally 2 (Arcade)

15) Galaxy Force II- One of the games I played the most as a kid. The original arcade unit, to this day, is one of the coolest thing I've ever seen.

14) Virtua Fighter 2- This game was revolutionary when it first came out. I remember my jaw dropping the first time I ever seen the arcade version, and later when I saw it running on the Saturn.

13) Chu Chu Rocket- A excellent puzzler with a story abot mice building rockers to get to the moon all because they thing it's made of cheese? Brilliant.

12) Streets of Rage 3- One of the best Beat-Em-Ups of all time. Still.

11) Ristar- I was inpressed when I saw this title getting some love on these forums, but it's well deserved. Sadly this title was lost in the shadow of the shift to other hardware and the Sonic series. It's one of SEGA's best platform games.

10)- Ecco The Dolphin: Defender of the Future- IMO the most beautiful game in the Dreamcast's library and the best of SEGA's neglected Ecco series.

9)- Daytona USA- THE arcade racing game. It's still popular today.

8)- The House of the Dead- IMO The best lightgun game. I was hard pressed between this and Virtua Cop, but I decided that HOTD was the better choice. It had better graphics and more importantly better gameplay. I also enjoyed the theme a bit better. One of my most played arcade titles.
(Honorable mentions- Virtua Cop and Jurassic Park: The Lost World)

7)- NiGHTS: Into Dreams- From idea to execution this game is a perfect example of excellent game design.

6)- Sonic the Hedgehog 2- Somehow SEGA improved everything from the original title, and to this day I feel that this is the most complete Sonic title. Amazing.

5)- The Typing of the Dead- One of the most unique games I've ever played. At first it strikes you as a simple typing tutor, but when you get into playing with friends, it becomes so much more.

4)- Alien Front Online- I was intoduced to this by a friend, and I have to say that it's one of SEGA's best multiplayer games. The only negative aspect to this title was when it was taken offline, but fun can still be found playing it's single player missions. One of the best Dreamcast titles.

3)*Tie*-Panzer Dragoon Orta- A already excellent franchise resurrected by the boys at Smilebit into one of the most beautiful shooters of all time. A graphical powerhouse, and a challenging and rewarding game.
- Rez- Perfection. One of the best shooters of all time.

2)*Tie*-Jet Grind Radio/Jet Set Radio Future- Smilebit's best game? I think so. Everything forms a solid whole from the music and the gameplay, right down to the game's graphical style. This game is amazing. One of the best outings of the entire 128bit era.

1)- Crazy Taxi- I don't think I've ever put more time into a game before. It's so simple, yet so damn fun. I have every version released and I honestly play one every time I sit down and play games. It never gets old. IMO the best SEGA game. Ever.


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Rez
NiGHTS
Virtua Cop
Virtua Cop 2
Virtua Cop 3
Space Channel 5
Panzer Dragoon 2
Toejam & Earl
Sonic CD
Shining Force CD
Fantasy Zone
House of the Dead 2
Daytona USA 2 (arcade)
Shining Force 2
Alex Kidd in Miracle World

1. VF4 Evolution
2. Panzer Dragoon Saga
3. Sonic 3 and Knuckles (oh yes)
4. Rez
5. Crazy Taxi
6. Streets of Rage 3
7. Streets of Rage 2
8. Golden Axe: Revenge of Death=Adder
9. Sonic 2
10. Chaotix (that's right)
11. JSR
12. Panzer Dragoon Orta
13. NiGHTS
14. Eternal Champions CD (yep)
15. Space Harrier- best game soundtrack ever!

Top 15, eh? Let's give this a shot. I'm only ranking the top 5:

#1 Skies of Arcadia
#2 Chu Chu Rocket
Rez
Streets of Rage 2 (the other two can't hang with this one)
Outrun
Sega Rally series
Daytona USA (never really played much of 2, and the DC version sucked)
Panzer Dragoon Zwie (don't know why I liked it better than Orta, I just did)
#5 Shinobi III
Shinobi
Sonic Adventure
#3 Samba de Amigo
#4 Shining Force III
Virtua Cop II
Sega Marine Fishing (If you haven't played, you're missing out)

Wow, far too much Chu Chu rocket love... I didn't even think it was that good...

1) Shenmue II
2) Wonderboy (series)
3) Fantasy Zone
4) Space Harrier
5) Sonic (series)
6) Crazy Taxi
7) Galaxy Force II
8) Daytona USA
9) Choplifter
10) Jet Grind Radio
11) Outrun/Outrunners
12) Rez
13) Power Drift
14) Bio Hazard Battle
15) Phantasy Star (series)

Actually, if I'm including Sega-published games (which I did since Wonderboy is there) I should also toss Puyo Puyo, Gunstar Heroes and Alien Soldier up there somewhere...

In no particular order:

Rez
VF4Evo
F355
Outrun
Phantasy Star
Turbo
Sonic CD
Space Harrier
Daytona USA (arcade)
Fantasy Zone
Virtua Cop 2/3
Samba de Amigo
Virtual On Ontario Tangram
Panzer Dragoon Saga
Virtual Tennis

Enter the Fanboy:

15. Super Monkeyball
14. Die Hard Aracade/Dynamite Deka
13. Panzer Dragoon Orta
12. NiGHTS
11. Shining Force III
10. Phantasy Star IV
09. Daytona
08. Jet Grind Radio
07. Landstalker
06. Sonic CD
05. Phantasy Star II
04. Crazy Taxi
03. Virtua Tennis
02. Shenmue II
01. Panzer Dragoon Saga

Honorable mention to the NBA 2K series

*edit* Comixzone gets the boot for Super Monkeyball

Off the top of my head, I probably forgot some...

1) Sonic 2
2) Jet Grind Radio
3) Sonic & Knuckles
4) House of the Dead 2
5) Space Harrier
6) Outrun
7) Virtua Fighter 4 Evo
8) Crazy Taxi
9) Panzer Dragoon Orta
10) Streets of Rage 2
11) Sonic Heroes
12) Super Monkey Ball 2
13) Sonic
14) Comix Zone
15) Toejam & Earl (Was this SEGA?)

What the hells up with the lack of love for Panzer Dragoon RPG?

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What the hells up with the lack of love for Panzer Dragoon RPG?

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No lack from me

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01. Panzer Dragoon Saga

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No lack from me

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You and like 3 other people.

The rest of you I'm direly disappointed in.

Especially Yoshi... Panzer Dragon 1? What the hell?

These are not in order:

Virtual Tennis
Sonic Adventure
Soul Calibur
Crazy Taxi
Marvel Vs Capcom 2
Legacy of Kain: Soul Reaver
AeroWings 2: Air Strike
Battletoads - Double Dragon
Sonic: The Hedgehog 2
NBA Jam: Tournament Edition

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These are not in order:

Virtual Tennis
Sonic Adventure
Soul Calibur
Crazy Taxi
Marvel Vs Capcom 2
Legacy of Kain: Soul Reaver
AeroWings 2: Air Strike
Battletoads - Double Dragon
Sonic: The Hedgehog 2
NBA Jam: Tournament Edition

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Ummm... that's only 10 games, and also several of those aren't Sega Games.

My list will not be too conventional, but here it goes.

(OMG this is gonna be so hard.....)

Top 15 (like Yoshi, no series):

#15. Crazy Taxi (Dreamcast) - Just a great game to waste countless hours trying to beat your best score. I made over $40,000 once, with 96 people delivered about. Never beat that since.

#14. Sega Rally (Saturn) - Played this game to death. It just felt soooo right, I've never felt another racing game handle as well for me.

#13. Virtua Fighter 2 (Saturn) - Keep in mind I haven't played 4 or Evolution yet. But VF2 was a revolution back then. The AI wasn't stupid, and I used to have some heated games with friends.

#12. Burning Rangers - I still love this game, and wish for an updated game on Xbox online with head set compatability. The possibilities are endless!

#11. Streets of Rage 3 - Yeah, that's right. SoR 3! The only thing SoR 2 has over this game is the music. Everything else: graphics, gameplay and control, this game is better.

#10. Shinobi 3 - Best Ninja game of it's generation. Arguably ever.

#9. Jet Set Radio Future - It was a damn hard choice between the two. But the bigger world, larger selection of characters, and 60fps graphics pushed it over the edge. Plus the gameplay revisions didn't affect me at all.

#8. Skies of Arcadia - Wonderful, wonderful adventure. Everything about this game (except for the numerous battles) was quality.

#7. Phantasy Star Online - Any version, really. I played the original DC version, then went on to the GC version, and now I went and bought the Xbox version. I don't know why I do this to myself.

#6. Shenmue - One of the most moving soundtracks ever, and a memorable storyline with some of the best graphics of its time. Only surpassed by its sequel.

#5. Panzer Dragoon Orta - My God, what a beautiful game. These are some of the best graphics this generation, and the best Sega has done, outside of F-Zero. I love anything Panzer, and the improved gameplay puts it way above the previous two shooters.

#4. Sonic 3 & Knuckles - Yes, this is my fav Sonic game. This was just so epic for its time. The length was extended, the three character to choose from, and one of my favorite Sonic soundtracks of all time. 'Nuff said.

#3 NiGHTS into Dreams - Almost gameplay perfection. How I wish just for an update, maybe under Sega Ages or something. Anything to enjoy some new NiGHTS experience. Note to Naka: don't make a totally new game. Just update the graphics and add new levels. That's all I ask.

#2. Shenmue 2 - Second best Sega Adventure/RPG game ever. Everything Shenmue is, and a lot more.

#1. Panzer Dragoon Saga - Panzer rules all. This game was a revelation to me, with total speach throughout the game, great graphics for its time, and a battle system that has yet to be copied (besides a little bit in PDO). All this besides my favorite storyline in any game, ever. We NEED another RPG in this most intriguing world.

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You and like 3 other people.

The rest of you I'm direly disappointed in.

Especially Yoshi... Panzer Dragon 1? What the hell?

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I had it on my list, but then I had to close the window, and I'm not typing that shit again.

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Ummm... that's only 10 games, and also several of those aren't Sega Games.

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Yeah, this demands that I write it out:

WHAT THE FUCK??

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What the hells up with the lack of love for Panzer Dragoon RPG?

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Perhaps its rarity is the reason. I know it is in my case. Granted I havent posted my 15 fav SEGA games, but if I did, it wouldnt be on there simply because I havent had the chance to play it terribly much.

What I got to play of it though, it seemed quite amazing. I should bug my friend to let me borrow it.

Oh yeah, as for my list... in no particular order:
Jet Set Radio Future
Panzer Dragoon Saga
Shinobi 3
Sonic 3 w/ Knuckles
Ristar
Nights
Comix Zone
Dragon Force
Rez
Phantasy Star IV
Panic
Typing of the Dead
Streets of Rage II
Space Channel 5 Part 2
Shining Force.

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What the hells up with the lack of love for Panzer Dragoon RPG?

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Unfortunatly I have never played/owned this gem. It is also rare to the point that I know I do not like RPG's enough to put it towards this. I will trade you Tobal no.2 for a used copy of the game and then perhaps it will make it on my list. :)

I should also mention that I have missed the famed "best sonic evar!1!" Sonic CD because I could not figure out why there was a CD attachment to the genny.

Ya know... as much hype as Sonic CD gets, I still think Sonic 3 w/ Knuckles is better.

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Ya know... as much hype as Sonic CD gets, I still think Sonic 3 w/ Knuckles is better.

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Finally, some one who agrees with me about this...

A few of my favorites:

Sonic 2
Panzer Dragon Saga
Streets of Rage 2
Jet Grind Radio
Skies of Arcadia
Afterburner

And Rez wouldn't even be on the list. I'm generally down with the TNL concensus on games, but the love that REZ gets is just unfounded IMO.

ORTA > REZ

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Ya know... as much hype as Sonic CD gets, I still think Sonic 3 w/ Knuckles is better.

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Yeah, I agree too. Gameplay-wise it was just better, as well as level design-wise. I'd even argue graphically, besides the special stages and FMV of Sonic CD.

I love both Soundtracks, though, so I couldn't decide which is better.

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What the hells up with the lack of love for Panzer Dragoon RPG?

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Speaking for myself, it was difficult to pull games out of my ass. I simply forgot it.

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Especially Yoshi... Panzer Dragon 1? What the hell?

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That was the game that announced the arrival of 32-bit gaming. It is that simple. On that day in May, 1995 when Sega did its surprise launch, Panzer Dragoon was the next generation.

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Ya know... as much hype as Sonic CD gets, I still think Sonic 3 w/ Knuckles is better.

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And you called me out for Panzer Dragoon? That shit you're growing in Iowa must be good stuff.

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That was the game that announced the arrival of 32-bit gaming. It is that simple. On that day in May, 1995 when Sega did its surprise launch, Panzer Dragoon was the next generation.

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That doesn't mean its good. Panzer Dragoon is terrible.

Here are a few Sega titles I enjoyed. I cant really think of 15. Here's the top 9 Sega games.
01. Jet Grind Radio
02. Virtual On: OT
03. Virtua Cop
04. Nights
05. Samba De Amigo
06. Sonic 2
07. Shenmue 2
08. Chu Chu Rocket
09. Comix Zone

With only one from a series:

1. Sonic The Hedgehog(SG) - Still the perfect platformer after all these years and equaled only by Nintendo's best. Sonic CD is better in some ways but it's worse in others.

2. Shinobi 3(SG) - The greatest ninja game of all time. Zeed never tasted so good.

3. Jet Grind Radio(DC) - The soundtrack is overrated big-time but the gameplay and style are beyond brilliant.

4. Shenmue 2(DC) - Beautiful, immersive, and containing classic Sega arcade games. Out Run and Space Harrier especially rock and I'm going to cheat and include them here.

5. Wonder Boy 3(SMS) - Possibly the greatest of all 8-bit console games. It has aged incredibly well.

6. Golden Axe(SG) - The graphics and sound aren't as good as the arcade but I think this version has better gameplay.

7. Panzer Dragoon Saga(SS) - This puts most RPGs to shame with its atmosphere, battle system and lack of whiny Square-brand brats.

8. Thunder Blade(Arc) - Why won't Sega re-release it? Because it's not a Suzuki game?

9. NiGHTS(SS)

10. Safari Hunt(SMS) - There are plenty of great SMS gun games and this one was always my most played and still is.

11. Streets of Rage 2(SG)

12. Kenseiden(SMS) - I always return to this samurai classic.

13. Phantasy Star 4(SG) - It's hard to pick a favorite Phantasy Star. The original was the best for its time and I love PSO but I feel PSIV is the best overall.

14. Galaxy Force 2(Arc)

15. Fantasy Zone(Arc)


Damn that was hard to do. I mostly just included stuff developed by Sega. There is a Westone game in there but they practically counted as a Sega team. It also feels weird leaving out Virtua Fighter but I'm just not into fighting games much anymore.

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Wow, far too much Chu Chu rocket love... I didn't even think it was that good...

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Yeah, I'm in awe of that too. It's not a bad game but it wouldn't make my top 50 Sega games.

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What the hells up with the lack of love for Panzer Dragoon RPG?

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Only 2 people in the entire country have ever even seen a Panzer RPG disc, and of those 2 only one of them wanted to open it from the shrink wrap and play it (give or take a few people).

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That doesn't mean its good. Panzer Dragoon is terrible.

Here are a few Sega titles I enjoyed. I cant really think of 15. Here's the top 9 Sega games.
01. Jet Grind Radio
02. Virtual On: OT
03. Virtua Cop
04. Nights
05. Samba De Amigo
06. Sonic 2
07. Shenmue 2
08. Chu Chu Rocket
09. Comix Zone

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If Panzer Dragoon is terrible, then what adjective describes 8 of the 9 games that you listed, none of which are as good as Panzer Dragoon?

Gah! Monkeyball! How could I forget that! OK....um.... Shinobi I, you get the boot. Sorry.

#1 Skies of Arcadia
#2 Chu Chu Rocket
Rez
Streets of Rage 2 (the other two can't hang with this one)
Outrun
Sega Rally series
Daytona USA (never really played much of 2, and the DC version sucked)
Panzer Dragoon Zwie (don't know why I liked it better than Orta, I just did)
#5 Shinobi III
Super Monkey Ball
Sonic Adventure
#3 Samba de Amigo
#4 Shining Force III
Virtua Cop II
Sega Marine Fishing (If you haven't played, you're missing out)

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That was the game that announced the arrival of 32-bit gaming. It is that simple. On that day in May, 1995 when Sega did its surprise launch, Panzer Dragoon was the next generation.

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Yeah, but the thing is it really isn't a very good game. Zwei and Orta are both much much better then the first.

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That was the game that announced the arrival of 32-bit gaming. It is that simple. On that day in May, 1995 when Sega did its surprise launch, Panzer Dragoon was the next generation.

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Agreed, but Zwei and Orta outdid the original in every way possible. Nostalgia is a great thing, and being the first counts for something, but under no circumstances could I see the original being considered "Better" than any of the later games in the series.

Then again, Panzer is my favorite series, so what do I care? ;)

I am plesently surprise to see Comixzone creeping on so many lists...I figured mention of it as a top 15 game would have many up in arms.

Rez is not that good guys. It just isn't. And yes, I've played it stoned (what a waste of good weed). Neither is Skies of Arcadia, for that matter.

#1 Jet Grind Radio
#2 Crazy Taxi
#3 Panzer Dragoon Orta
#4 Sonic the Hedgehog 2
#5 Super Monkey Ball

The levels last FOREVER when you're stoned... I didn't make it past Level 2. It just wouldn't fucking end.

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Rez is not that good guys.

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To each his own.

For me, Rez, a nice pair of headphones and a trance vibrator say it's that good.

gameplay > music and a vibrator

It's the total package that sells me. Gameplay-wise I feel Orta is a much better game for the type.

That's cool.

I'm just being confrontational.

I mean I always have to listen to people crab about FF, Nintendo, etc, etc, etc...

Just want to try it from the other side of the fence.

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Just want to try it from the other side of the fence.

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Did it taste good?

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That's cool.

I'm just being confrontational.

I mean I always have to listen to people crab about FF, Nintendo, etc, etc, etc...

Just want to try it from the other side of the fence.

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:lol: that's cool.

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Did it taste good?

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reacharound!

(yes it did)

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1. Shenmue
2. Sonic the Hedgehog
3. Jet Grind Radio
4. Crazy Taxi
5. Sonic the Hedgehog 2
5. Jet Set Radio Future
6. Vectorman
7. Virtua Fighter
8. Sonic the Hedgehog 3
9. Panzer Dragoon
10. Virtua Fighter 2
11. Virtua Fighter 4 Evo
12. Streets of Rage
13. Sonic Adventure 2
14. Sonic Adventure
15. Streets of Rage 2

how the fuck is Crazy Taxi making it on anyones list?

Simple, because it rules, and is still a blast to play today.

This topic is mislabelled, it should be "Bitch about other poster's Top 15 Sega Games"

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If Panzer Dragoon is terrible, then what adjective describes 8 of the 9 games that you listed, none of which are as good as Panzer Dragoon?

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I think the proper adjective is, "better than Panzer Dragoon". This forms a contradiction, thus proving your statement to be wrong.

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how the fuck is Crazy Taxi making it on anyones list?

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Simple. The same way Rez is making it on people's list: people like the game.

I was addicted to this game when it first came out. I loved the whole expansive city, and the "I just gotta try to beat that last score" playability. It controlled great and while it got annoying after a while, the music fit the game nicely. Not to forget the graphics were gorgeous for the time. This game, along with many others, helped make the Dreamcast such a great console, especially considering its short life span.

At first I wasn't gonna put it on my list, then I weighed how much I played it versus other games, and it just slipped by at no. 15.

Oh fun!

Nights
Ristar
Chu Chu Rocket
Panzer Dragoon Zwei
Panzer Dragoon Saga
Panzer Dragoon Orta
Golden Axe
Sonic CD
Rez
Jet Grind Radio
Space Harrier
Shining Force
Shining Force 2
Shining in the Darkness
Outrun

In no particular order.

1. Panzer Dragoon Saga
2. Shenmue series
3. Jet Set Radio
4. Cosmic Smash
5. Rez
6. Skies of Arcadia
7. Crazy Taxi
8. Super Monkey Ball
9. Sonic 2
10. Samba de Amigo
11. Typing of the Dead
12. fzero gx
13. ferrari f355
14. Shinobi III
15. Panzer Dragoon Orta

I'm not a huge fan of old-school SEGA, as you can see. Did SEGA develop Dragon Force? If they did, throw that on there.

Yep, Sega Developed Dragon Force and Dragon Force II... Working Designs just brought the first one to the US.

Nope, they didn't.

Are you sure about that? Who did it then?

I don't know.. maybe NeoZ can help us?

1. Sonic 3 & Knuckles
2. Shakko No Tambourine
3. Streets of Rage 2
4. Top Skater
5. Virtua Fighter 2
6. Sega Super GT
7. Fighting Vipers
8. Crazy Taxi
9. Rez
10. Jet Grind Radio
11. Typing of the Dead
12. Samba De Amigo
13. Panzer Dragoon Zwei
14. Ristar
15. Nights

At least I think thats how it goes.

Gamespot says Sega done it.

http://www.gamespot.com/saturn/strat...reenindex.html

Yeah, Gamefaqs does as well... although Gamefaqs isn't always right.

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Originally Posted by Lucas Barton

how the fuck is Crazy Taxi making it on anyones list?

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Originally Posted by Jeremy

Simple, because it rules, and is still a blast to play today.

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I still play Crazy Taxi. Had my list not been erased and posted instead, it would have been on there.

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Originally Posted by Tracer

Gamespot says Sega done it.

http://www.gamespot.com/saturn/strat...reenindex.html

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I may have a new number one. :cool:

bbobb, when I submitted my post, yours didn't appear to me, I don't think they did, but it wouldn't shock me if it turned out that they did.

Edit - and a quick search of GameFAQs turns up that SOJ developed it. Note to self, shuffle up top 15 list to include this masterpiece.

Edit 2 - reshuffled list:

1. Shenmue
2. Sonic the Hedgehog
3. Jet Grind Radio
4. Crazy Taxi
5. Sonic the Hedgehog 2
5. Jet Set Radio Future
6. Vectorman
7. Virtua Fighter
8. Sonic the Hedgehog 3
9. Virtua Fighter 2
10. Dragon Force
11. Virtua Fighter 4 Evo
12. Streets of Rage
13. Sonic Adventure 2
14. Sonic Adventure
15. Streets of Rage 2

I forget the name of the team that developed Dragon Force, but they were in-house at Sega, and later disbanded and scattered to the other dev houses.

1VO:OT
2 Outrun
3 Virtua Fighter 3
4 F355
5 Power Drift
6 Virtua Fighter 2
7 Golden Axe 3 (arcade)
8 Shinobi
9 Streets of Rage 2
10 Zillion
11Afterburner
12 Space Harrier
13 Daytona
14 Ristar
15 Dragon Force

Honorable mentions to the Dreamcast sports games, the first Phantasy Star, probably a lot of other games I can't think of.

Panzer Dragoon Saga held my interest to nearly the end (that stupid fucking maze). It's a neat game. I don't think it's good, but I don't really think any videogame RPGs are good. Damn shame more of you haven't played it, since if I could stand the game, I'm pretty sure anyone who likes RPGs would enjoy it a lot.

How much is it off of EBay now? $100 may sound like a lot, but you guys could just buy the game, play it, and then sell it. That's what I did with PDS, Radiant Silvergun, I dunno, Hyper-something-or-other, Langrisser Collection (or whatever that thing was called), Suchie Pai II, all of those dumb expensive Saturn games. It's like renting a video game and having to put down a large deposit. That Langrisser box set was one of the best videogame collections I've ever seen.

1. VF4 EVO
2. VF4
3. VF2
4. SOR 2
5. VOOT
6. ESPN NHL2k4
7. Nights
8. Sega Rally 2
9. F355
10. PSO
11. Shinobi 3
12. Indy 500
13. VR racing
14. Virtual On
15. Shenmue 2

Whew! That was kinda tough. If it was top 10 like every other list it would have sucked.

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Originally Posted by Chibi Nappa

Gah! Monkeyball! How could I forget that! OK....um.... Shinobi I, you get the boot. Sorry.

#1 Skies of Arcadia
#2 Chu Chu Rocket
Rez
Streets of Rage 2 (the other two can't hang with this one)
Outrun
Sega Rally series
Daytona USA (never really played much of 2, and the DC version sucked)
Panzer Dragoon Zwie (don't know why I liked it better than Orta, I just did)
#5 Shinobi III
Super Monkey Ball
Sonic Adventure
#3 Samba de Amigo
#4 Shining Force III
Virtua Cop II
Sega Marine Fishing (If you haven't played, you're missing out)

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Probably because PD zwei had better bosses, music, and atmosphere even though technically it sucks compared to Orta. It's more intense and jawdropping. The game pretty much had the best prologue ever and would have made a wicked movie.

1. VOOT
2. VF4Evo
3. Jet Grind Radio
4. NiGHTS
5. Shenmue 2
6. Panzer Saga
7. Space Harrier

That's all I'm gonna rank, for now.

The more I think about it, the more I think Panzer Dragoon Saga should be the best Sega game.

It has style up the wahzoo, it is short and sweet, it got a very strange ending, it is not a sequel, yet it is not an original property... It is an RPG, not exactly a forte of Sega, but it shows that they are daring and will try anything.

Another game that is kinda like that is Rez. Those 2 = Sega Love.

This one is tough! Sega has so many great games, but I think the best of what I played from Sega was on the Saturn or Dreamcast.


1 - Shining Force III : Strategy games are on the top of my list and this one did it so well. Too bad I never got to play Scenarios 2 and 3.

2 - Phantasy Star Online : Many call it a 3-d Diablo, but I call it a great game on it's own merits. Dark Falz has to be one of the coolest boss battles in any RPG. Man, I wish Sega would make a true sequel to this.

3 - Sega Rally 95 (Saturn): This is the perfect racing game. So what if it only has 4 tracks, the challenge of the game and the way your car controls perfect. Sega Rally 2 was a letdown for me.

4 - Shining: The Holy Ark: I bought this game around the same time as FFVII. FFVII collected dust, while I was enjoying this beyond excellent RPG. This game was not exactly a technical marvel of it's time, but the combination of a solid music track, excellent characters and enticing storyline just made this game worthy of a second play through.

5 - Burning Rangers : I used to have an avatar for this game. It's a great combination of shooter and platformer. The only set back this game had, was that it sometimes pushed the Saturn hardware beyond it's limits. I'd love to see a remake of this game on hardware that could do it justice.

6 - Dragon Force : This strategy RPG is cool on so many levels. It's further proof that Sega is just as good at making RPG's, as any other publisher out there.


7 -Virtua Fighter 4 : I loved VF1 and VF2 (3 was a big disappointment) and VF4 was both of those titels on steroids. One of the best 3-d fighters of all time.

8 -Shenmue 1 and 2 (tie): Some will say 2 is superior, but 1 was the game that had me hooked to the end. I've yet to finish 2, but I'm hoping to finish it sometime in the next 3 months.

9 - Daytona USA : When this game came out, for me it was the defineing moment that 3-D racers were the future of arcades. I've played the arcade, Saturn and Dreamcast versions of this racer beyond any other racer on the market.

10 -Panzer Dragoon Saga : The storyline and dungeons (If you can call them that?) are allright, but what really sets this game apart from other RPG's, is the battle system. The way you leveled up your Dragoon was pretty unique as well and had an effect on well you did in battle and approached it.

11 - Crazy Taxi : That's right, I'm one of those guys that finds this game to be one of the best. The arcade game had me hooked and as soon as I'd heard that the Dreamcast was getting it, was planning the purchase of the system.

12 - Wing Arms : This was my first import game for the Saturn. Many reviewers gave it around a 75% rating, but I think they did'nt get what it was all about. This is arcade combat in it's simplest form and set at a frantic pace. The coolest part of this game, was when you'd dive down and blast your guns at a base or ship then lay down a followup of missiles.

13- Nights: Into the Dreams: A very unique game, that truely deserves an update.

14 - REZ : The game is tame for a shooter, but I really enjoyed the artistic design of this game. It kind of remined me of TRON, in some ways and even one of the bosses resembled the Master Controller from the movie.

15 - Phantasy Star II: I loved the sci-fi like theme this RPG presented and I still hum the tunes from this game every now and then. One of my favorites from the Genesis library.


I would have loved to put Bass Fishing and Skies of Arcadia on the list. Bass Fishing's best part was the tournament mode. Skies was a pretty cool RPG, but it was missing something, that would put it in the same league as some of the best RPG's on the market.

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Originally Posted by Lucas

how the fuck is Crazy Taxi making it on anyones list?

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The game has brilliant, addictive design and it really stood out in arcade scene in dire need of original stuff. It was very close to making my list.

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Originally Posted by Lucas Barton

how the fuck is Crazy Taxi making it on anyones list?

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Because it's easily one of the best games ever made, and absolutely restored my faith in arcade gaming to create something simple and addictive that wasn't cookie cutter. It's fun as hell the first time you play, and yet incredibly deep. That's the formula right there.

I don't think Sega made Iron Storm.... Yes, it was on the Saturn, but was made previous for the Duo (I got the japanese version of it).

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Originally Posted by diffusionx

Here are a few Sega titles I enjoyed. I cant really think of 15.

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Panzer Dragoon Orta
Sonic 2, 3 & Knuckles
NiGHTS
Jet Grind Radio
F-Zero GX
Otogibanashi: Myth of Demons
Gunstar Heroes
Shinobi
Crazy Taxi

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Originally Posted by kingoffighters

I don't think Sega made Iron Storm.... Yes, it was on the Saturn, but was made previous for the Duo (I got the japanese version of it).

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Yeah, Sega's versions are ports of System Soft's computer games. Iron Storm is part of the Daisenryaku series.

1.Eternal Champions cart version
2.Experts
3.Outrigger
4.Sonic Heroes
5.Home Run King
6.Sega GT series
7.Jaguar xj220
8.Chicago Syndicate
9.Robotica
10.Bug
11.My Hero
12.Mansion of Hidden Souls
13.Shinobi Legions
14.Knuckles Chaotix
15.Shinobi PS2

No particular order:

- Panzer Dragoon Saga (loved it, even if it hasn't aged gracefully)
- Burning Rangers
- Shinobi 3: Return of the Ninja Master
- Kun-Fu Kid
- Phantasy Star 2
- Jet Grind Radio
- Wonder Boy in Monster World
- Castle of Illusion Starring Mickey Mouse
- Gunstar Heroes
- Guardian Heroes
- Sonic 2
- Streets of Rage
- Space Harrier
- Outrun
- NIGHTS

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Originally Posted by NeoZeedeater

Yeah, Sega's versions are ports of System Soft's computer games. Iron Storm is part of the Daisenryaku series.

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I looked at the back of the booklet and it does say Original Game System soft 1988. What through me off, was that it says Iron Storm is a trademark of Sega enterprises,LTD, licensed by Working Designs.


Now, I'll have to edit my list. :(

Chu Chu Rocket (DC)
Columns (MD)
Crazy Taxi (ARC, DC)
Daytona USA (ARC)
Jet Set Radio (DC)
Sega Rally (ARC, SAT)
Shenmue I & II (DC)
Skies of Arcadia (DC)
Sonic Adventure 1 & 2 (DC)
Sonic the Hedgehog 2 (MD)
Streets of Rage 2 (MD)
Virtua Cop 2 (ARC, SAT)
Virtua Tennis 2 (DC)

You know, I suddenly find myself with a newly found love for Outrunners. For some reason I never liked it as much back in the day. Maybe I was too focused on the multiplayer aspect (which is weak compared to games like Daytona), and less on the high score aspect like the original Outrun. But it really is damned fine. Felt like mentioning that in this thread because it was the most relevant one on the front page.

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you can put a series down if you want.

15. Skies of Arcadia
One of the handfull of RPGs that i enjoyed playing quite a bit. i liked the games style, characters, and setting.

14. Virtua Tennis
best Tennis game since Super Tennis (up until that point). great controls, music, and excellent multiplayer.

13. Virtual On Series
easily my favorite mech game. great style, character designs, and action.

12. ChuChu Rocket
possibly my favorite puzzle game. ranks in my top 3 with Puzzle Fighter and Tetris Attack.

11. Fantasy Zone
man, i love everything about this game. everything about it is fantastic.

10. Streets of Rage Series
great style, amazingly good music, and an awesome game to play when drunk. especially part 1. didn't spend much time with part 3, but at one point in time, all i needed out of my Genesis, or even gaming for that matter, was Streets of Rage 2.

9. Jet Set Radio Series
ah, the days of Dreamcast's prime. this game just did everything right.

8. Space Harrier
beautiful game. really awesome style, good music, and just a joy to play or watch.

7. Daytona USA
it's Daytona. what more needs to be said?

6. Sega Rally Series
to this day, this is my favorite Rally Racing game. i still prefer it over the very good Rally Racing modes from other games too.

5. Super Hang-On
it' just Motorcycle racing action. with super good music that's keeps up with the action no less. easily the best Motorcycle racing game ever. i'll take this over Namco's MotoGP series even.

4. Shenmue Series
this game just has something about it. i dunno, i can't really explain it, but like, i just get happy thinking about it.

3. Phantasy Star Online Series
my first real online gaming experience. i spent a lot of time with this one, and even played it for 3 days straight when i first got my hands on it.

2. OutRun
this game is just special. it does everything right, and then some. i can never say no to this game. easily one of the best games of all time.

1. Rez
perfection. it blended everything flawlessly. i don't know what to add. this would easily make it into my top 20 of all time.

other Sega games that i'd like to play more of, or just play all together are Super Monkey Ball, Cosmic Smash, Super GT, F335 Challenge. i really do get the feeling that if i play F355 Challenge, it's gonna make it on to the list without effort.

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A sega favourite games list and no shinobi? WTF?

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You know, I suddenly find myself with a newly found love for Outrunners.

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You mean there's actually good emulation of it now?! Or do you have access to the real thing? The last time I tried it on Modeler, it wasn't quite playable enough.

Rez (PS2)
Nights (SAT)
Super Monkey Ball (GC)
Shinobi (PS2)
Crazy Taxi (DC)
Sonic Adventure (DC)
Shenmue series (DC)
Chu Chu Rocket (DC)
Sonic 3 (GEN)
Shinobi 3 (GEN)
Golden Axe (GEN)
Virtua Tennis (DC)
House of the Dead 2 (DC)
Panzer Dragoon Orta (XBOX)
Sega Rally 2 (DC)

There's some decent emulation of it. It plays and looks pretty good.

1. Crazy Taxi: One of my top five favorite games of all time, its just phenominal.

2. Rez: Nothing else in the world like it, I don't care if it "plays" like some other games, nothing else is like it. Everything ties into each other, its an experience, also top 5 material.

3. Shenmue II: It goes so far beyond Shenmue 1 that its not even funny. It took all the basic ideas of Shenmue 1 and just went crazy. While 1 kept you in a small town, II took you to three vastly different areas full of exploration and just plain interesting things to occupy your time while increasing story events ten fold.

4. Super Monkey Ball 1: Blows all other ball rolling games out of the water, even its inventor Marble Maddness. Its packed with that Arcade feel, great personality, design, and just overall uniquness. And it has a fantastic level of challange.

5. Space Harrier: In the same boat as a lot of Segas arcade greats, simple but oozing with creativity and challange.

6. Gunvalkyrie: I was a huge doubter of the this game based on intitial previews and reviews, and then when I actually got to play it I was blown away. Great control (once you learn it) and fantastic worlds.

7. Outrun: For me it goes well beyond all other racers of its ilk, wether it be Pole Postition or whatever.

8. Jet Set Radio Future: Yes I said FUTURE. I find this game to be about 600 times more fun than its original. The original is just clunky, this game is smooth and just a blast to play.

9. Virtua Tennis: Multiplayer is where this game is really at for me, but the single player modes add a lot and actually make you a better player.

10. Panzer Draoon Orta: For me this game is all about the places you visit, glorious creative levels that literally pull you in. Coupled with phenominal on rails shooting action.

11. House of the Dead 2: One of the best light gun games of all time, great levels and enemy design. Plenty of events to keep you interested, and to actually use your ability to aim rather than just pount on the trigger.

12. Sonic the Hedghog: I really have to say that overall I like the first one the most. Maybe if I play some more of 3 that opinion will change, but I have played them all except for Heroes and Chaotix and nothing feels as good as 1. And Sonic CD is by FAR my least favorite, that game is a god damn mess, worst level design I have ever seen and I am dead serious.

13. Cosmic Smash: Everything about this game is neat, feels like it fits into the Rez universe in a way. Nothing else quite like it.

14. Shinobi III: While I prefer Ninja Gaiden for my Ninja games this one is fantastic, great feel and look. And nothing is quite like riding that horse.

15. Kid Chameleon: Wonderfull title that I never played until more recently. Neat concept, and about 8 billion levels.

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Panzer Dragoon Orta

Otogibanashi: Myth of Demons

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From Software is not Sega.

Yeah all Sega did was publish it here in the U.S.

1. Phantasy Star Online
2. Phantasy Star II
3. NiGHTS
4. Panzer Dragoon Saga
5. Phantasy Star IV
6. Shinobi III
7. Sonic the Hedgehog
8. Shenmue 2
9. Tennis 2k2
10. Space Harrier
11. Virtua Fighter 4: Evolution
12. Golden Axe
13. Skies of Arcadia
14. Streets of Rage 2
15. Panzer Dragoon Orta

1. Jet Grind Radio
2. Panzer Dragoon Orta
3. Shenmue II
4. NiGHTs
5. Virtua Fighter 4: Evolution
6. Sakura Taisen 3
7. Shenmue
8. Jet Set Radio Future
9. Sonic CD
10. Panzer Dragoon Zwei
11. Panzer Dragoon Saga
12. Virtua Tennis
13. House of the Dead 2
14. Cosmic Smash
15. Revenge of Shinobi

1. Shenmue II
2. Super Monkey Ball
3. Shenmue
4. Super Monkey Ball
5. Shenmue II
6. Shenmue
7. Super Monkey Ball
8. Super Monkey Ball
9. Shenmue II
10. Shenmue
11. Super Monkey Ball
12. Shenmue II
13. Shenmue
14. Super Monkey Ball
15. Shenmue II

HAHA TEH LOLZ0RZ!!!!!!!!!!!!

Was that necessary?

Why indeed it was, thanks for asking.

Random order:

* NiGHTS
* Jet Set Radio
* Skies of Arcadia
* Shinobi [PS2]
* Zillion

* Rez
* Alex Kidd in Miracle World
* Sonic Series
* Pulseman
* Penguin Land

* Phantasy Star Series
* Ristar
* Ecco the Dolphin Series
* ChuChu Rocket!
* Wonder Boy Series

I'm surprised SGGG didn't start this thread.