Two (4?) new Tales games announced.

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26 Jan 2004, 04:14 PM
George

Two new Tales games announced.

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- Namco announced four new Tales of game titles for various platforms. First is Tales of Legendia for GameCube, sequel to Tales of Symphonia, the game will be published by Nintendo later this year, similar to Tales of Symphonia, the game will continue to use the Multi-Linear Battle System, full 3D graphics, and new GBA connectivity features.

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- Second is Tales of Truthia for PlayStation 2, the sequel to Tales of Eternia. The game will continue to use the traditional 2D Linear Battle system.

I'm thrilled by the news of Tales of Truthia most, to be honest. Then again, I haven't even gotten time with the first of the Gamecube incarnations, so I guess I wouldn't know.

We'd just better get them.
26 Jan 2004, 07:47 PM
jarrod

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Originally Posted by ViciousJazz

I'm thrilled by the news of Tales of Truthia most, to be honest. Then again, I haven't even gotten time with the first of the Gamecube incarnations, so I guess I wouldn't know.

We'd just better get them.

Actually, it's 4 new games. There's a new GBA Tales and Tales of Fandom Volume 2 (PS1) announced as well. And a rumored PSP Tales game in the works suppossedly...
26 Jan 2004, 10:04 PM
Frogacuda

Already mentioned in the Tales thread.
26 Jan 2004, 10:12 PM
Survival Kid

Worst names ever. Does Eternia really need a sequel? That game was horrible. Can't comment on Symphonia. The series should have ended with Destiny.
26 Jan 2004, 10:15 PM
Frogacuda

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Originally Posted by Survival Kid

Worst names ever. Does Eternia really need a sequel? That game was horrible. Can't comment on Symphonia. The series should have ended with Destiny.

Destiny sucked. Eternia was solid, and especially had a great world, worth revisitng. You're broken.
27 Jan 2004, 06:37 AM
Xero_Kaiser

I'd be more excited if I could read japanese. It doesn't seem like Namco's too concerned with getting these games to the US.
27 Jan 2004, 06:47 AM
burgundy

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Originally Posted by Survival Kid

Worst names ever.

He's right about that much. Someone needs to teach Namco the fine art of attaching numbers to the ends of their titles.
27 Jan 2004, 07:54 AM
AaronChance

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Originally Posted by burgundy

He's right about that much. Someone needs to teach Namco the fine art of attaching numbers to the ends of their titles.

They tried that with Tales of Destiny 2 and it ended up being the worst of the series. Best to suffer through a bad name than a bad game.
27 Jan 2004, 07:57 AM
Xero_Kaiser

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They tried that with Tales of Destiny 2 and it ended up being the worst of the series.

PS1 or PS2?
27 Jan 2004, 08:09 AM
burgundy

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Originally Posted by Ammadeau

They tried that with Tales of Destiny 2 and it ended up being the worst of the series. Best to suffer through a bad name than a bad game.

You'll be singing a different tune when Tales of Chlamydia is announced.
27 Jan 2004, 02:29 PM
Frogacuda

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Originally Posted by Ammadeau

They tried that with Tales of Destiny 2 and it ended up being the worst of the series. Best to suffer through a bad name than a bad game.

Worse than Destiny 1? You're the first I've heard to say that...
27 Jan 2004, 08:59 PM
Damian79

Not 2 but 4 new tales games announced? 0_o

With Tales of Symphonia scheduled for a release sometime in the Summer for North America, chances are that most of you reading this have yet to play Namco’s GameCube-exclusive cel-shaded RPG, that is unless importing is an option. Nevertheless, Namco has announced that a sequel to the GameCube’s Tales of Symphonia is on the way, going by the name of Tales of Legendia, and is scheduled for release later this year featuring GameCube/GBA Connectivity, being published by none other than Nintendo themselves.

How the GameCube/GBA Connectivity will be utilized has yet to be disclosed, however Namco has also announced three additional Tales games, and one of them is a Game Boy Advance title that has been left unnamed at the moment (also being published by Nintendo). The others are the PlayStation 2’s Tales of Truthia, the sequel to Tales of Eternia, which will continue the traditional 2D Battle System of its predecessor, and a new fan disc in development for the PlayStation One called Tales of Phantom 2.

More as it comes…

http://www.the-magicbox.com/gaming.htm
27 Jan 2004, 09:16 PM
Bacon McShig

"Truthia"?

Sounds like a locale in a cheesy 60's government-issue educational filmreel.

Right on the border of "Don't-cut-in-linetopia".
27 Jan 2004, 09:21 PM
ChaoofNee

Beaten to the punch:
http://www.the-nextlevel.com/board/s...ad.php?t=26637
Nice to know so many people love this series, though.
27 Jan 2004, 09:26 PM
Damian79

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Originally Posted by ChaoofNee

Beaten to the punch:
http://www.the-nextlevel.com/board/s...ad.php?t=26637
Nice to know so many people love this series, though.

Read it again. 4 new tales games. @_@
27 Jan 2004, 09:29 PM
burgundy

Merge.

Read it again.
27 Jan 2004, 09:30 PM
Damian79

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Originally Posted by burgundy

Merge.

Read it again.

$^&%*&$ Fuxxor. Mods please delete.
28 Jan 2004, 12:13 AM
AaronChance

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Originally Posted by Frogacuda

Worse than Destiny 1? You're the first I've heard to say that...

Maybe its because the character designs make throw up or maybe because they broke the fighting system so you actually have to stop fighting and stand there waiting if you don't want to get killed in the battle, or maybe its the 3D work that looks like it was done by pre-schoolers, but yeah I'd say it's the worst in the series, though I only played a friend's copy of Destiny 1 so I didn't know it all that well. Oh, I mean the Japanese PS2 one, btw. I forgot Namco screwed up the names even worse for the US.
28 Jan 2004, 12:27 AM
Frogacuda

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Originally Posted by Ammadeau

Maybe its because the character designs make throw up or maybe because they broke the fighting system so you actually have to stop fighting and stand there waiting if you don't want to get killed in the battle, or maybe its the 3D work that looks like it was done by pre-schoolers, but yeah I'd say it's the worst in the series, though I only played a friend's copy of Destiny 1 so I didn't know it all that well. Oh, I mean the Japanese PS2 one, btw. I forgot Namco screwed up the names even worse for the US.

I agree about the character design (though I really don't like Mutsumi Inomata in general so that's a batter of bad and worse for me), but Destiny's battle system was kinda messed up in its own right, albeit in more subtle ways (really stupid and random choices of abilities for characters, messed up magic cancels, etc). And the plot was friggin terrible, and the encounter rate unbearable.

I know alot of people who really liked Destiny 2 though. I haven't the means to play it yet, but I still want to. Symphonia had alot more of what I was looking for in terms of story, character design, battle system, etc, but still... if it's a Tales game I need to at least play it.
28 Jan 2004, 01:14 AM
AaronChance

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Originally Posted by Frogacuda

I agree about the character design (though I really don't like Mutsumi Inomata in general so that's a batter of bad and worse for me), but Destiny's battle system was kinda messed up in its own right, albeit in more subtle ways (really stupid and random choices of abilities for characters, messed up magic cancels, etc). And the plot was friggin terrible, and the encounter rate unbearable.

The plot is still terrible. The encounter rate is still unbearable. The only thing good about I can say is the sprite art is nice and for the most part ignores the eye gouging character designs. It's just not any fun to play, so I can't see how anyone can really like it, especially if you've played other games in this convoluted series. It's a greatest hit somehow so It's cheaper than most imports, but it's still not worth it. I played it for six hours so I really, really tried to like it (and I didn't have anything else to play at the time really), but there's nothing to like. It is pretty good for the first hour or so, then it becomes incredibly repetitive and dull.
28 Jan 2004, 01:48 AM
Frogacuda

I refuse to beleive that the encounter rate could be even half of what it was in Destiny. I also really like the background art in Destiny 2, though not as much as Eternia's. I find it hard to beleive that the plot could be as bad as Destiny's "We're Sorry Mari- er, Stahn. The pinc- er, bad guy is in another castle" plot, either. The SP guage thing is goofy though, and goes against the grain of the improvements made in Eternia. I can imagine hating it.

(I really just didn't like Destiny much. Total rush job. Though I guess Destiny 2 could be a worthy successor in that regard, too...) In japan, Destiny and Destiny 2 were the most popular in the series, even among series fans. I don't know what's wrong with people sometimes...
28 Jan 2004, 03:01 AM
AaronChance

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Originally Posted by Frogacuda

I refuse to beleive that the encounter rate could be even half of what it was in Destiny. I also really like the background art in Destiny 2, though not as much as Eternia's. I find it hard to beleive that the plot could be as bad as Destiny's "We're Sorry Mari- er, Stahn. The pinc- er, bad guy is in another castle" plot, either. The SP guage thing is goofy though, and goes against the grain of the improvements made in Eternia. I can imagine hating it.

Was the encounter rate every five steps? Because that's what it is in Destiny 2. And you know what's worse than playing Stahn going to various places with no actual purpose? Playing his whiny son doing the exact same thing. The SP gauge is probably even worse than you imagine it. It's not a factor in quick fights, but basically it kicks in whenever a battle is getting really good and ends up ruining it every time. It doesn't add anything to the challenge either since your team mates are constantly healing you.

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(I really just didn't like Destiny much. Total rush job. Though I guess Destiny 2 could be a worthy successor in that regard, too...) In japan, Destiny and Destiny 2 were the most popular in the series, even among series fans. I don't know what's wrong with people sometimes...

Destiny 2 feels like a rush job in almost every aspect. It feels like they threw it together and didn't actually try playing it because it may look good on paper, but actually playing it everything just breaks down. I find it really surprising that anyone can even like this game, especially people who have played other games in the series. But then I never thought the majority of Japanese gamers had very good taste in games.
28 Jan 2004, 05:44 AM
ferricide

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Originally Posted by Frogacuda

I find it hard to beleive that the plot could be as bad as Destiny's "We're Sorry Mari- er, Stahn. The pinc- er, bad guy is in another castle" plot, either.

probably not, but as soon as i started playing it all of the bad memories of destiny 1's story started flooding back to me ... and i lost interest so quickly. plus, as ammadeau said, the battle system forcing you to just stop all the time is really, really, not so hot.

hrm, i have a non-Mega Hits! version up for grabs. PM me! =)
28 Jan 2004, 07:11 AM
AaronChance

Here's the plot of Destiny 2 in it's entirety:

Mystery Girl: I am looking for the hero.
Stahn's Son: I'm a hero!
MG: No, you're not.
SS: Yes, I am.
MG: Not!
SS: Am!
MG: Not!
SS: Am!
Mystery Villian: Hahaha, I am very evil and will kill you all.
SS: My friends just kicked you ass. I helped a little.
MV: I will vanish for now because the game isn't long enough.
MG: Maybe you're the hero.
SS: I told you I was!
MV: I have returned! I can't possibly lose this time!
SS: You are already dead.
MV: I am slain!
MG: Okay, you're the hero after all.
SS: See? I told you I was!
28 Jan 2004, 10:22 AM
Frogacuda

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Originally Posted by Ammadeau

Was the encounter rate every five steps?

'Bout every 2-3 steps, seriously. Even in the dungeons that didn't have random encounters. It was unreal. The SFC Phantasia was like that, too, actually, but the remake fixed it.

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Destiny 2 feels like a rush job in almost every aspect.

The development cycle was like half or 2/3 of what Symphonia got, so you might not be that far off...

You'll probably still like Symphonia, though. It has none of the problems you mentioned. No random battles anywhere in the game, and they went back to the fast and frantic Eternia style battling. And it's pretty and has fun characters.
28 Jan 2004, 03:02 PM
ferricide

eternia is IMO the best game in the series. and then phantasia remake. of course, this is from the perspective of someone who got involved in the series on the playstation.

phantasia might have more appealing overall feel than eternia, even, but the polished-ness of eternia is lovely. and i like the english text, although the story is nothing special.

TOD2 really seemed like a step back from eternia to me, or at least a step sideways. less polish and although high-res it didn't really look better at all, for various reasons, including the fact that the sprites are always way scaled in, in the battles. and have ass animation on the map so it doesn't matter if they're high res.
28 Jan 2004, 03:12 PM
Frogacuda

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Originally Posted by ferricide

eternia is IMO the best game in the series. and then phantasia remake. of course, this is from the perspective of someone who got involved in the series on the playstation.

I won't call ToS my favorite before I play the english version, but it is in many ways the best of both worlds there. I've described it as "Tales of Phanternia" myself a few times. The gameplay and battle system are evolved from eternia, the story is built on Phantasia, and the art's a mix of both.
28 Jan 2004, 06:27 PM
ferricide

phantasia remake has a really pleasant anime/fantasy feel that's kind of eschewed by latter games; i'd be happy to see that come back. i don't hate mutsumi inomata but i'm not crazy about him (her?) either. the whole *world* has a very different feel in phantasia than eternia or even than ToD, so it's not a technological thing.
29 Jan 2004, 02:21 AM
Frogacuda

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Originally Posted by ferricide

i don't hate mutsumi inomata but i'm not crazy about him (her?) either.

Inomata is female.
29 Jan 2004, 03:15 AM
AaronChance

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Originally Posted by Frogacuda

Inomata is female.

Does she have a head bigger than her body and a neck the width of one electron? That would explain her character designs.