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Originally Posted by Rich
At least someone got it. I feel a lot better now. I thought my humor went unappreciated. :)
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Originally Posted by Rich
At least someone got it. I feel a lot better now. I thought my humor went unappreciated. :)
We need some more people up here. They can take BC; it's closer to their climate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yoshi
So it's been decided.
I say, cut down all the forests of the world, then use them to build gigantic domes over the cities of the world, then have climate control. The Tongass alone would provide more than enough wood for America's major cities.
Nice and simple.
The Illuminati is behind this! They're climatizing earth so it'll be suitable for the alien horde that's set to destroy us in 2012. Just look at the growing number of people who dismiss the notion of global warming, then go out and buy SUVs. They've obviously been brainwashed by Chemtrails!
Seriously though, I can't believe some people still believe mankind has no effect on climate. Sure this whole ice age thing is silly, but some of you are really depressing.
The water is just going somewhere else, it's not dissapearing.Quote:
Uh, water is running out dude. In Australia while we are dropping in population and we have those crappy shower things and laws for water usage, our fresh water supply is quickly running out.
Im not gonna be buying an SUV or anything, but not because of global warming, because they're shite. I agree that fuel emission standards need to be tightened up but I dont see that happening in the near future, whether or not Bush gets re-elected.
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Originally Posted by diffusionx
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Uh, water is running out dude. In Australia while we are dropping in population and we have those crappy shower things and laws for water usage, our fresh water supply is quickly running out.
I'm pretty sure that it won't be an overnight thing, man. I mean it might be good notice that these areas of the world will be unable to provide decent living. So then, people will move away from those areas.
How is that catastrophic? So population of some cities may go up, big whoop.
Look at Japan and China, those cities pack people in. Although they have disease problems now but still.
Also, it is possible to live in very cold temperatures, is it not? I mean the world isn't exactly 'doomed'. We are way ahead of the people of the last Ice Age. They probably didn't even know it was coming. We do, so we can prevent. Right?
People are so full of themselves....acting like they're causing a dramatic and catostrophic climate change by spraying an aerosol can and driving a car. No, you're not that important and you can't cause massive climate changes. This is just crap the planet does anyway as all of pre-history shows us. Don't go taking credit for planet-wide catastrophies you had nothing to do with.
But the water is not dissapearing.
Besides Ive been reading about how fresh water supplies are running out for maybe 15 years or so. When I was a kid I had a book that was "50 Things Kids Could Do To Save The World"... of course it was hippie nonsense, and it had a lot of FUD about everything dissapearing and shit. I look at 15 years of basically the same exact shit going on as it did back then and nothing has changed... the planet is still chugging along. Aside from a few blips every few years the weather in NJ was always pretty damn consistent too.
And I also read in a Zoobooks or whatever when I was about 8 years old that all the rainforests would be gone by, I dont know, right about now. And then I would hear about how evil DDT is in class and how birds got thin eggshells because of it and what not... and just recently (like, 3 weeks ago) I learned that the lack of it is responsible for a huge surge of malaria and malaria-related deaths in Africa. So color me disenchanted.
Im not saying that rainforests should be torn down, or that people should leave the faucet on when they shave, or that people should take 40 minute showers 5 times a day, or that people should drive huge SUVs, Im saying that I think the planet's a lot more resilient than we give her credit for.
Suit yourselves. You offer me no evidence that we are not effecting the climate. All you have is conjecture. I can site ice cores taken in antartica and greenland (places that do not have any or much civilization and industry) that show the increase of carbon dioxide on the planet over the past 20 - 25 years. A huge increase. I can show you climate charts that show the 1990's as being the hottest years in over 150,000 years (based on the same type of ice coreing samples) and it might be longer since thats only how far back those cores show us.
All you have is conjecture. I know nature is remarkable but the powers at our disposal have grown and out paced us. I'm not some wacko who wants to depress everyone. All I want is for a threat, a real one that effects us all, to be acknoledged even if its currently nebulous.
Also. Global Warming doesn't nessisarily result in Ice Age - the effect to the Gulf Stream was however, to me and I am sure many others, unforseen. We don't know that an Ice Age is the direct result of this. Not for certian. The best tool we have for this is science. Something everyone besides yawa seems to be discrediting or at least completely disreguarding. I'm not saying this with a political agenda or some kind of social thesis I would force on others.
As to water not disappearing: right. Law of Conservation. However - fresh drinkable water is. And at a steadyly accelerating pace. Not just in Austrailia either. Water evaporates and becomes clouds. Clouds make rain and rain falls. Much of it falls in over the sea. This water will not be drinkable. The most logical effects of warming are coastal floods and droughts inland. The lack of freshwater may be very serious.