Door still open for a new NIGHTS game?

Found this at Sega Xtreme:

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In the new issue of EGM, the editors sat down with Sonic Teams' own Takashi Lizuka and discussed Sonic Heroes. They managed to slip in a question asking him about a new NiGHTS game, and he said "I know that there are very strong, loyal NiGHTS fans out there. And as long as I am with sega I will create NiGHTS again... the more I hear from the fans about their love for the game, the more reasons I have to consider it as my next project."

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I really want to believe it but somehow I'm sure we'll just get another Sonic port or a PSO Tamagotchi game or something equally stupid.

Considering Sonic Team's output lately, if they made it, it would suck anyway.

I read that too. I know it will come some day, probably as Sega is on thier death bed, try to keep the plug from being pulled.

That interview was in GMR as well. Or maybe just, who knows? I just finished reading it on the can.

All I gotta say is:

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Originally Posted by Ammedeau

Considering Sonic Team's output lately, if they made it, it would suck anyway.

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but he beat me to it.

A Nights sequel would be totally ass. The whole purpose of the game was to give you that feeling of wonder. It worked then, and it won't now. We've seen too many 3-D effects by now to be fascinated with improved graphics in a sequel. Not to mention that when you strip the visuals (or get over their initial impact) the gameplay is rather boring, repetitive, and non-existant. Who really wants to play a game about flying through loops?

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Originally Posted by icarusfall

The whole purpose of the game was to give you that feeling of wonder.

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Yeah, it made me wonder what all the hype was about. I got all A's and put it away forever in less than a week. Not horrible, I guess, but chaining was kinda fun. Just not enough to make me play it past completion.

I really don't care if the door is open if no one walks through it.

I got the original Nights years after the fact, probably about... oh, four years ago, and I still loving playing it. The gameplay is simple, fun, and very addictive. Plus, the music is nice, and the whole world is just full of life.

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Originally Posted by icarusfall

A Nights sequel would be totally ass. The whole purpose of the game was to give you that feeling of wonder. It worked then, and it won't now. We've seen too many 3-D effects by now to be fascinated with improved graphics in a sequel. Not to mention that when you strip the visuals (or get over their initial impact) the gameplay is rather boring, repetitive, and non-existant. Who really wants to play a game about flying through loops?

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If this were the case people wouldn't be able to go back and enjoy it. The game holds up despite looking technologically ancient. It's the feel of the game and the artistry that makes it good, not fancy graphics.

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Originally Posted by NeoZeedeater

If this were the case people wouldn't be able to go back and enjoy it. The game holds up despite looking technologically ancient. It's the feel of the game and the artistry that makes it good, not fancy graphics.

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Spot on NeoZ!

Off, but on topic:

Did I ever mention I have a Nights pillow-case? :) :sonic:

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Originally Posted by NeoZeedeater

If this were the case people wouldn't be able to go back and enjoy it. The game holds up despite looking technologically ancient. It's the feel of the game and the artistry that makes it good, not fancy graphics.

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NiGHTS still looks good to me and it plays better than 95% of games out there. We need more games that as so expertly polished like NiGHTS is. It is every bit as vital now as it ever was and I'd be all over a sequel. :)

I should clarify by saying there's nothing wrong with the graphics in the original. I'm just saying it would be the same game with updated graphics - Sort of a Nighs Remix kind of thing.

I was wowed playing it the first time through, but it never captured my attention after that.

It did have the 'wonder' feel down lock and key (sort of like Ico, but Ico isn't really a fair comparison). Only there wasn't much artistry after you got past the initial 'wow' feeling.

Different strokes I guess :/

PSP port?

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Originally Posted by Videodrone

Did I ever mention I have a Nights pillow-case? :) :sonic:

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I have a NiGHTS plush.

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Originally Posted by Videodrone

I read that too. I know it will come some day, probably as Sega is on thier death bed, try to keep the plug from being pulled.

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So in about three or four months, then?

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Originally Posted by icarusfall

Not to mention that when you strip the visuals (or get over their initial impact) the gameplay is rather boring, repetitive, and non-existant. Who really wants to play a game about flying through loops?

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Thank God someone else feels that way. I have no idea why NiGHTS gets as much positive feedback as it does. It wasn't even as good as Crash Bandicoot at that time, and that comes from someone who was a huge Sega fan from about 1988 until they went to hell recently.

While we have heard this before, I'm excited because it's a bit more positive and a stronger statement than we have heard before.
Let's hope. :_)

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Originally Posted by icarusfall

A Nights sequel would be totally ass. The whole purpose of the game was to give you that feeling of wonder. It worked then, and it won't now. We've seen too many 3-D effects by now to be fascinated with improved graphics in a sequel.

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I dissagree with this.

I have played games in the last few years that still give me the same feeling of awe that something like Nights gave me all those years ago.

Some of the stages Gun Valkirye
Final Fantasy X
Jet Grind Radio
Wind Waker
Warcraft 3
Beyond Good and Evil

There are still games being made wtih style on par with Nights, I think it's just very easy to get overly jaded after years and years of playing games that all we do is harken back for the olden days.

Atleast IMO of course.

Well, I'm surprised by the amount of Nights hate here....

Anyway, I conducted that interview with Iizuka, and when he spoke of Nights, I could tell that he really does feel strongly about it. It was really his brainchild, not Naka's...and I do believe that he will make a true sequel someday. He wants to do it, it's a matter of convincing Sega to let him.

Here's to hoping it ends up happening, or at least a remake with new-age graphics.

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Originally Posted by thray-walsh

Well, I'm surprised by the amount of Nights hate here....

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I'm pretty shocked, too, but by the honesty in stead of fake hardCORE-ness.

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Originally Posted by Yoshi

Thank God someone else feels that way. I have no idea why NiGHTS gets as much positive feedback as it does. It wasn't even as good as Crash Bandicoot at that time, and that comes from someone who was a huge Sega fan from about 1988 until they went to hell recently.

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Sounds about right. Playing SA2 and Sonic Heroes is hell. With UGA eaten by Sonic Team, and Sonic Team sucking it up hard, my interest in Sega wanes.

And they're not going to give me Virtua Cop 3. I want it so bad.

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Originally Posted by Mzo

Sounds about right. Playing SA2 and Sonic Heroes is hell. With UGA eaten by Sonic Team, and Sonic Team sucking it up hard, my interest in Sega wanes.

And they're not going to give me Virtua Cop 3. I want it so bad.

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There are two home games I want from Sega right now, and they are Virtua Cop 3 and OutRun 2. The fact that they are waffling on their home release makes Sega worthless to me, and that makes me very sad. :cry:

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Originally Posted by thray

Anyway, I conducted that interview with Iizuka, and when he spoke of Nights, I could tell that he really does feel strongly about it. It was really his brainchild, not Naka's...and I do believe that he will make a true sequel someday. He wants to do it, it's a matter of convincing Sega to let him.

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Naka tends to get too much praise(and blame) for Sonic Team's games at the expense of other members like Iizuka. Who was the director of Burning Rangers and PSO?

And those bashing Sonic Team's recent games better have played Billy Hatcher. It's quite a good game.

Mweh, lets hope I get permission to post my Naka interview up on TNL.

If Sonic Team does indeed go ahead with NiGHTS 2, they really need to dedicate every resource to it's development. I want more than flashy graphics and a new storyline, I want something along the lines of a new controller, like they had planned for Aero NiGHTS.

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Originally Posted by Johnny

Aero NiGHTS.

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Originally Posted by Ammadeau

Considering Sonic Team's output lately, if they made it, it would suck anyway.

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I just appreciate a good burn.

Nights is an excellent game, but I have a feeling that if a remake was made, that most of the masses would overlook the title. The game is very unique and anyone that questions it's viability as a great game, needs to take a step back and play the game for what it is. It's games like Nights, that help push the industry in new directions, rather than the same old, same old.

Crash Bandicoot? I don't think so!


BTW: I have a Nights pillowcase as well. It came with the 3-d controller set.

As I said in the Top 15 Sega games of all time list: I'd just like an update with new graphics. They could just take the first game, spiffy up the graphics, and add more levels. Hell, even make a sequel with the same basic structure of the original. Put it all on one disk, sell it for $20-30 new, and I'm happy.

I'd also be happy with an all-new game, but the likeliness of that happening are still pretty slim.

Good Lord, a NiGHTS sequel *could* have every bit of magic and wonder from the original and more, with today's visuals.

I imagine a NiGHTS sequel with very similar "3D on a 2D path" gameplay. It could work in true 3D but that might make it more difficult to get into the rhythm of getting links.

Imagine NiGHTS flying down over a field and rolling hills at dusk. Little animals scamper along in the field as he lazily flies over it. Then he crosses a lake. His hand dips into it causing wake and ripples. Then he careens upwards with a quick dart, paralooping around stars and chips, then he locks onto a Nightmaren and banishes it into whatever nether-region his paraloop .. um... banishes things. Imagine this with razor-sharp textures (sorry PS2) and at 60 fps pushing 10 million polygons or more per second. Imagine watching a replay of you level from cinematic camera angles!

It should be much easier to make more levels than the original Saturn NiGHTS had. YEah, we'd need more levels, a bit more diversity and tougher bosses. Care has to be taken to give that 'freedom of flight' feeling and also that 'racing game/links' feeling that sucked many of us. I really hope NiGHTS is remade with this mentioned guy at the helm, someone who holds the original dear to heart like I do.

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Originally Posted by NeoZeedeater

And those bashing Sonic Team's recent games better have played Billy Hatcher. It's quite a good game.

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As soon as Sonic Team can get off of their lazy asses and put some actual work into a new version of PSO, I'll give them credit again. Three version later and I still can't change the color of my outfit to my liking, for God's sake.

Didn't Sega say that PSO Ep. 3 was the last installment?

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Originally Posted by Videodrone

Didn't Sega say that PSO Ep. 3 was the last installment?

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Last installment in the original PSO saga. i.e the next PSO will be a true sequel.