Anti-Gay Marriage Constitutional Amendments?

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Originally Posted by Stone

Ah, holy crap. We could go on about this for days, but for one, how about what homosexual priests have done to Catholic children?

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There's a big fucking difference between homosexuals and pedophiles. Just because they're attracted to people of the same sex does not mean they're attracted to children.

I'm assuming that you're attracted to women. Does this mean that you want to have sex with 10 year old girls?

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Originally Posted by Master of 7s

There is no difference, I thought that was obvious. The United States government outlawed marriage between certain types of adults not to long ago and now Bush is trying to pull the same bullshit using God as an excuse. I never said I agreed with it, I said that the government needs to take God's name out of the whole process and just deal with the legal aspect of marriage and leave the rest to the churches. Ultimately that is all this is about anyway. Gays gaining the same legal rights as partners that any married heterosexual couple gained by saying "I DO". I have no problem with this. Just keep God's name out of it.

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I take back what I said, and I apologize. I agree wholeheartedly with you on this. Guess I jumped to conclusions a bit to fast.

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Originally Posted by Master of 7s

Gays gaining the same legal rights as partners that any married heterosexual couple gained by saying "I DO". I have no problem with this. Just keep God's name out of it.

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Originally Posted by Master of 7s

You don't know me or what I am to a lot people whom I love and whom love me. So you are in no position to judge me. Now kindly shut up.

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Sorry. I misunderstood your position, and for that I apologise.

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Originally Posted by Master of 7s

Politics had nothing do with what my grandparents fought so hard for back then and I don't appreciate it being trivialized either by gay, political activists or you.

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Exactly. There's no political agenda by giving Gays the rights to marry, like there was no political agenda regarding the abolishment of segregration.

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Originally Posted by Aurora

Yeah, because all gay people are crazy sex beasts. *rolls eyes* What a fucked up, offensive comment....

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Don't try to deny it. We all know you secretly lust to have sex with children.
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Originally Posted by Stone

It's hard to even think about this stuff without sounding like some sort of Christian Crusader, but ignoring it is potentially extremely dangerous for these children, who we may be putting in harm's way.

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Yeah, all those gays (therefore peodophiles) may sprinkle fairy dust on them and give them TEH GAY. And then they will use there pink money to crush our economy and force us to listen to k.d.lang and techno music, and wear pink hotpants.


Why are children being thrown into the mix? People outside of marriage can have children, and people inside a marriage can not have children if they wish. Marriage and a family don't come hand in hand.

All gay couples want are the same legal rights as a hetero couple. You know, tax and mortgages. The children thing is a whole other debate.

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Originally Posted by Master of 7s

And they definately don't have to live in fear of a bunch of ignorant, sadistic, doufusses in white bed sheets breaking down their door in the middle of the night, raping the women (and children) and hanging the men from a tree they way we used to.

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Ever heard of "gay bashing"?

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Originally Posted by AstroBlue

Ever heard of "gay bashing"?

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I really didn't want to get into this anymore, but you can't really compare them can you? I mean, one side even had an organisation that kills them for doing something that offends them and then kills them on the side just for fun.

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Originally Posted by Damian79

I really didn't want to get into this anymore, but you can't really compare them can you? I mean, one side even had an organisation that kills them for doing something that offends them and then kills them on the side just for fun.

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Originally Posted by KKK

4. We hate niggers, Jews, faggots, spicks.

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Of course African Americans were/are far more suppressed, discriminated against, brutalised, etc etc. than homosexuals. But that's not the point! So you must be suppressed beyond a point before you deserve equal rights? That's bullshit.

Equal rights is a position, not a counter-point.

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Originally Posted by AstroBlue

Of course African Americans were/are far more suppressed, discriminated against, brutalised, etc etc. than homosexuals. But that's not the point! So you must be suppressed beyond a point before you deserve equal rights? That's bullshit.

Equal rights is a position, not a counter-point.

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So why are you comparing them? Anyway, I didn't know the KKK went after the jews and "faggots" aswell. I guess it was just seen that way because people can't hide the fact that they are black and hence the KK went after them more?

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Originally Posted by bbobb

I take back what I said, and I apologize. I agree wholeheartedly with you on this. Guess I jumped to conclusions a bit to fast.

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Don't sweat it. It's got more to do with me not being able to get my point across clearly in the first place than you misunderstanding.

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Originally Posted by Damian79

So why are you comparing them?

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Because they are both civil rights issues. I am not saying that "the struggle of gays is like the struggle of blacks" I am just saying that the core issues of discrimination cannot be discriminated. Both are situtations in which people have been marginalised because of what they are, not who they are. It's not devaluing the Civil Rights movement of the sixties, it's just showing people that "you obviously supported that, so why don't you support this?".

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Originally Posted by AstroBlue

Ever heard of "gay bashing"?

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Yes, but victims of gay bashing have a better chance of surviving said hate crime than victims of a lynch mob hellbent on murder. No one is saying one hate crime is better than the other, but an organized mob of idiots hunting you down and burning everything you hold dear (churches, home, family) in an effort to "teach these niggers their place" is a shade worse than maybe a group of three or four idiots (usually "christians") beating you senseless because you happen to like men.