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I just don't think it's right, basically CV's views are my own. I was actually in agreement with the discussion earlier about taking marriages out of the government and let people do it on their own. If they can't get married it's not like they still can't spend the rest of their lives with each other, it's just not legally recognized.Quote:
Originally Posted by burgundy
But the chances of marriage being removed from government recognition are slim to none... and since that is so, then Gays should be allowed to marry. It's not like they're asking to do it in your church and then spit on teh Jesus when they're done.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gohron
Then you're not treating them equally. Make up your mind.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gohron
And if you want the government to stay out of marriage, supporting a law/amendment that involves the government in marriage more than ever before is counterproductive.
What does the law have to do with God? He's only specifically mentioned in all books of law when people want to know the time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gohron
Actually, God hates me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gohron
And, through a rather comical cosmic mixup, he can't do anything about me.
What does the law have to do with God? He's only specifically mentioned in all books of law when people want to know the time.
And even then he has to share limelight with the independence.Quote:
Originally Posted by Constitution
Dear God, what time is it? I really want to know...Quote:
Originally Posted by AstroBlue
He was the original time and temperature chick. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike
Weeeell... to be fair, I think there is some choice involved. I don't think anyone choses what to be attracted to, but there's an understanding in this society, that while, for example, a pedophile may not choose to be attracted to children, he's still accountable for what he does to them. So in that sense it is possible for someone to, for whatever reason, be attracted to do something he ought not to do, and also possible for him to choose not to act on it. In otherwords, you don't choose to be attracted to the same sex, but you do choose to act on your urges.Quote:
Originally Posted by bbobb
THAT SAID, I can't think of any reason besides religion why someone would want to forego a loving and functional relationship to deprive himself of his/her urges besides religion. I'm sort of playing devil's advocate here, but I think that the argument that it's innate or natrual within them is not sufficient for its morality. The fact that it can allow certain people to live more happily than they might otherwise, and not harm the uninvolved might be, however.
It is on some level a choice, but wether it is a wrong one is arguable.
If it's choice. Then why do some people "resist" being gay, like it's a natural urge that they try to overcome?
I don't think I suddenly woke up when I was 9 or so and thought "I think I'll go for women, because they have titties". It just naturally happened; I made no conscious decision. I still can't understand why I like titties so much, since they are just sacks of lymph and fat.. but I still find them so beautiful and wonderous, for no good apparent reason at all.
I believe there are people that are physiologically gay, and people that are psychologically gay.