Mortal Kombat: Deception

all of things you mentioned were IN deadly alliance. if you spent any time with that title instead of jumping into this one and declaring these so called "faults" as NEW discoveries is just absurd.

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First of all, there are still no 2-in-1 combos, a staple of pretty much every 2D fighting game in existence and, as I recall, even of the original Mortal Kombat games.

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mortal kombat has NEVER had any two in ones. there were two hit combos(ie...jumpkick, flying kick with liu kang) that have been in this series since it's inception, but capcom-esque 2in1s just dont exist in this series.

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And to anyone that would argue that MK: Deception (or Deadly Alliance) isn't a 2D game, I'd argue otherwise. The only thing that 3D movement adds to the game is making projectiles completely useless, another nasty flaw in the gameplay.

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so if this game didnt have projectiles it would be considered 3d? cmon now. this isnt a 2d fighter. if it was the opp's would never sidestep and there would be no ability to roll away or towards the screen after being knocked down. trying to classify this title as a 2d game is also just plain retarded. if this is 2d, then so is VF. i dont care where this game got it's roots, it's now evolved into a 3d fighter and you need to just fucking accept it.

for the love of god dont follow in the steps of the other retads at ign. this is mortal kombat. not street fighter. this isnt 2d. it's 3d. after realizing this your opinion will actually be worth a damn.

OMGWTFGOTYBBQZOE2ROFL!

edit: i have no problem blaming your skills. reason being? you are far more adept at capcom games than you have ever been in any mortal kombat(which is fairly apparent after reading your "complaints").

pulling off commands and juggles in MK is far different from doing any magneto combo in MvC2(they both take skill, but just different kinds...one of which you are severely lacking) as MK has always had it's own "flow" and "feel" that is very different from other fighting game titles

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Originally Posted by Sl1p

I love how you strive to realize everyones opinion of people who work at IGN. Keep shooting for the stars!

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I'm not quite sure what that means, as even fewer people at IGN agree with me than people here.

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Originally Posted by MrWhitefolks

all of things you mentioned were IN deadly alliance. if you spent any time with that title instead of jumping into this one and declaring these so called "faults" as NEW discoveries is just absurd.

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I bought Deadly Alliance the day it came out and played it for three weeks straight looking for a good game. If you found one, I'd be more than happy to hear why the game is worth a damn.

And it's been way too long for me to remember if the old MKs had 2-in-1. I asked two people (one was Randerson), and both said they did.

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Originally Posted by MrWhitefolks

MK has always had it's own "flow" and "feel" that is very different from other fighting game titles

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I've always "felt" that MK was utter shit.

I will not front, I used to play 2 in the arcades, and it was fun for a while.

No MK after 2 has even gotten my attention.

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Originally Posted by Mzo

I've always "felt" that MK was utter shit.

I will not front, I used to play 2 in the arcades, and it was fun for a while.

No MK after 2 has even gotten my attention.

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IAWTP

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I bought Deadly Alliance the day it came out and played it for three weeks straight looking for a good game. If you found one, I'd be more than happy to hear why the game is worth a damn.

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doesn't matter whether or not it's a good game, you were complaining about supposed "flaws" in a sequel to the same game you spent 3 full weeks playing. after 21 days of play i'm pretty sure you would have noticed those things.

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And it's been way too long for me to remember if the old MKs had 2-in-1. I asked two people (one was Randerson), and both said they did.

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1)if you dont know for sure, dont bring it up. we dont need a videogame Dan Rather up in these message boards.

2)if they DO have 2in1s in MK, they are NOTHING like the ones in capcom titles(ie...the ones you were complaining about not having).

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Originally Posted by MrWhitefolks

edit: i have no problem blaming your skills. reason being? you are far more adept at capcom games than you have ever been in any mortal kombat(which is fairly apparent after reading your "complaints").

pulling off commands and juggles in MK is far different from doing any magneto combo in MvC2(they both take skill, but just different kinds...one of which you are severely lacking) as MK has always had it's own "flow" and "feel" that is very different from other fighting game titles

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I fail to see how having the hand dexterity to do Magneto's infinite would not translate to being able to do 26LP in MK:D. Your point has some validity (I am a victim of it -- I can do m-knee TFT combos in VF4, but I have trouble with even simple air combos in GGXX), but this is extreme. That is like saying said person would have trouble throwing a fireball in SF. I do not buy that at all.

To me, it sounds like an issue with the command buffer, where it requires the actual input to be 26+P, and that is really easy to misinput as 236+P (along with more error-prone inputs). I do not remember the earlier MK games having this issue, but then again I try to avoid playing them whenever possible (see Mzo's post, except I never enjoyed playing any MK game... even 2).

Addendum: Regarding flaws in this game that existed in the previous game... if he thinks they were flaws in MK:DA that were not addressed here (like wonky collision detection) and they still persist in MK:D, then that should be addressed. Just because it is not a new problem does not mean it stinks less. It is like complaining about reversals in DoA:U -- it has been that way for three iterations of the game engine, and it still stinks.

-Dippy

I don't like all this numbers for directions bs.

Kids these days.

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Originally Posted by Mzo

I don't like all this numbers for directions bs.

Kids these days.

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It is cool because the Japanese kids do it.

Actually, I used it because that is what I learned first -- the first fighting game I really learned to play was VF2 (as opposed to scrubbing through SF2 for years.)

-Dippy

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And it's been way too long for me to remember if the old MKs had 2-in-1. I asked two people (one was Randerson), and both said they did.

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<Randerson> 2 in 1's don't really exist. Juggling is generally how you would pull off something something that would string hits with a fireball. Mark is pissed off and thinks the game is RUINED because you can't do a fierce punch and then a fireball.

sounds like someone needs to spend more time with this game instead of just running off to the comfort of zoe2 when their ego gets hurt.

ONO! I CANT DO JUGGLES!

*hugs ps2 case*

PS: i'm done with this topic. this game will be worth the time spent with it. it has kabal. it has a decent combo engine. and finally; mark is just another blubbering vagina hell bent on hating games because they are somewhat popular(even if it means using false information to bolster his opinion)

The more I see of this game the more I get interested. This may be the first MK game I get since 2 on the 32X. But I'll have to play it first.

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Originally Posted by Mzo

I've always "felt" that MK was utter shit.

I will not front, I used to play 2 in the arcades, and it was fun for a while.

No MK after 2 has even gotten my attention.

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Originally Posted by Mzo

I don't like all this numbers for directions bs.

Kids these days.

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I don't get it and I'm too old to learn something new.