Mortal Kombat: Deception

Yes, I know there's another thread about MK: D, but it isn't official, so nyah! :p

I just got the new PSM in the mail, and they did a ten page spread on this game, and it looks fantastic.

Returning combatants include: Night Wolf, Sindel (YAY! :D ), Ermac, Noob Saibot, and most characters from DA, not to mention those already released (IE Baraka and Mileena).

Oh, and that Shredder type character? It's just one of Sub-Zero's new costumes.

There is much new hotness in this installment of everyone's favorite fighting franchise (shut-up, assholes!), like new Super Puzzle Fighter and Archon type minigames (which are deep enough to stand on their own, or so it has been said), the return of multiple Fatalities (YAY! :D ), areana Death Traps (which kill off oponents instantly), interactive arenas the likes of which no one has ever seen, and an all new Konquest Mode.

The Konquest Mode in particular has me extremely excited, as it's an adventure game wherein you train your charater (whose name and appearence you customize) to kick ass, all the while exploring the world and uncovering secrets. Time plays a big part in this, too, as Sub-Zero might show up at the dojo every now and again, but only at certain times of the day, or on certain days out of a week. While exploring, you'll run into every single character who's ever made an appearence in any Mortal Kombat Game ever. That's just freaking cool. These characters will train you in new techniques and such.

When all is said and done, and the Konquest Mode conquered, you can then import your custom character, with his own fighting styles that you customize, into the other game modes and use him to whoop that ass.

And every mode of gameplay is online.

Is Kano in the game?

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Originally Posted by Captain Vegetable

...interactive arenas the likes of which no one has ever seen, and an all new Konquest Mode.

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How so?

Did Kano call anyone up and tell them if he's going to be a selectable character or an unlockable one?

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Originally Posted by diffusionx

Is Kano in the game?

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He was too busy making phone calls to take the time to appear in the game.

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Originally Posted by DArque Bishop

He was too busy making phone calls to take the time to appear in the game.

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LIES!

You forgot this...

New characters include an armored warrior named Hotaru, and the mysterious white-clad woman in the trailer, called Ashrah

I hope Jade is in there, along with that chick from 4 (the one dressed in yellow).

Any chance we'll be seeing Goro, Kintoro, or Motaro in this one?

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Originally Posted by voltz

I hope Jade is in there, along with that chick from 4 (the one dressed in yellow).

Any chance we'll be seeing Goro, Kintoro, or Motaro in this one?

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No word on Jade or Tanya, though Jade's more likely considering she's a more popular character.

As for the big three... I don't know about Motaro, but Goro and Kintaro are dead. (Goro was killed by Noob Saibot just before MK: Deadly Alliance, and Kintaro was vaporized by Raiden during MKII, according to canon.)

Also, a few screens are up at http://www.worthplaying.com/article....thread&order=0 , though I don't care for the fact that you can't see the full-size images until you turn off pop-up blocking.

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Originally Posted by Captain Vegetable

While exploring, you'll run into every single character who's ever made an appearence in any Mortal Kombat Game ever. That's just freaking cool. These characters will train you in new techniques and such.

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You know what would be hilariously cool? If "Bones", the super hidden MK1 character, made an appearance to train you. Bones is the guy hanging on the wall in Goro's Lair.

http://www.worthplaying.com/press/12...ception_05.jpg

Sub-Zero has become..The Shredder!

Something else I forgot to mention is that each character will have a "hari kari" suicide move to rob their opponent of the joys of finishing them off.

That's pretty neat.

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Originally Posted by Chojin

Sub-Zero has become..The Shredder!

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Kano OTP already made the joke, and in a better way.

HAHAHA!! I can't wait to see this.

Man, I wish Regus was here. He'd at least be interested. :(

http://www.worthplaying.com/press/12...ception_02.jpg

This looks awesome, I wonder if this is a 'breakthrough level' type feature like 3 had.

http://www.worthplaying.com/press/12...ception_03.jpg

Cool chess board game.

http://www.worthplaying.com/press/12...ception_01.jpg

Fucking a.

Why do I get the funny feeling this is gonna be a Deception?

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Originally Posted by Will

http://www.worthplaying.com/press/12...ception_02.jpg

This looks awesome, I wonder if this is a 'breakthrough level' type feature like 3 had.

http://www.worthplaying.com/press/12...ception_03.jpg

Cool chess board game.

http://www.worthplaying.com/press/12...ception_01.jpg

Fucking a.

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1) It is. Most (if not all) stages are multilevel.

2) It's actually like the old game Archon. Once a piece moves into a space occupied by another, the game switches to a standard fighting round, and the winner takes that square.

At the risk of sounding like I'm shamelessly self-promoting, we have a write-up at http://www.mortalkombatonline.com/co...&message=25564 that explains most of what we read in the article.

Hope this helps...

The scans of the mag I saw (on IGN) looked really jaggy. Hope they can clean that up.

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Originally Posted by Captain Vegetable

Something else I forgot to mention is that each character will have a "hari kari" suicide move to rob their opponent of the joys of finishing them off.

That's pretty neat.

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i like this idea.

If MK:D can just play smoother and a bit faster than Deadly Alliance, I will be very happy. MK:DA was a pretty good concept in my opinion, they had a good idea of what was they wanted to do but it just didn't feel right. Hell, it felt like I was playing a KoF game...stop and go and stop and go and..

I'm glad to see that Midway is taking great strides to improve the game and add lots of extras. Japanese companies should really start taking queues from American companies when it comes to this sort of stuff...or Hell, just gaming in general. Then of course, all of this is pointless unless it plays better. I got my fingers crossed.

So, all I want is-

1) Smoother gameplay
2) A scene with Kano on the phone
3) STRIKER!!!!!!!!!!!

This game just keeps sounding better and better. As well as MKDA did in reviews and such, I think this game stands a far better chance of making MK insanely popular again.

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Originally Posted by Sl1p

2) A scene with Kano on the phone

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Pfftt... you're thinking too small. Kano could use the phone in battle! He could call Ninjas with it, hold it up to the head of an opponent until a Glioblastoma tumour grows in their brain and causes their spine to snap at the base of their neck, he could distract people with annoying polyphonic ringtones, he could throw it at the opponent and then explode it with his laser eye beam; the possibilities are endless.

A couple of points I'd like to make...

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Originally Posted by Captain Vegetable

...like new Super Puzzle Fighter and Archon type minigames. And every mode of gameplay is online.

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So basically what this means is, we're finally going to get to play Super Puzzle Fighter(albeit a hacked the fuck up version) online? Wow...it's about fucking time! Capcom should be ashamed of themselves :confused:

Another thing is, those pics are getting trashed at GA and a couple other forums I go to. Why? I don't know. They don't look ugly to me at all. Sure they're not at polished and sweet as VF4 Evo or Tekken 4, but what else do you expect from an American developer? Cut Middy some slack for kreissake. :cool:

VF4 Rant...

I am just glad we're getting a couple 3D fighting games in the next few months...PERIOD! I am just about ready to quit playing VF4 altogether...I mean, what's the point? An online version of 4 aint happenin, and an online version of Final Tune has a slim to none chance as well. 6, 7, 8 hours a day mastering Akira? For what? Waste of time. Not like I live in Japan or anything. :confused:

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Originally Posted by DArque Bishop

As for the big three... I don't know about Motaro, but Goro and Kintaro are dead. (Goro was killed by Noob Saibot just before MK: Deadly Alliance, and Kintaro was vaporized by Raiden during MKII, according to canon.)

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Mortal Kombat has canon?

I'll be willing to call this GOTY if you pull off a fatality and start dancing like a queer while Happy Tree Friends music plays in the background.

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Originally Posted by voltz

I'll be willing to call this GOTY if you pull off a fatality and start dancing like a queer while Happy Tree Friends music plays in the background.

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It's already GOTY. It doesn't need your permission.

Oh hell no is it gonna get GOTY until the developers get smart and put in the following...

MK1 pit stage
MK2 acid chamber
MK2 pit stage II

And I want to see the forest from outworld again where the trees will eat ya.

sub zero's shredder costume looks cool , like him ;)

are the multiple fighting styles returning in this one?

Yes, there will me multiple fighting styles.

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Originally Posted by Kano On The Phone

Mortal Kombat has canon?

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and you have MK as your av?

Liu Kang being dead is kind of nice - means people have to actually put some thought into which character they choose. Now they just need to nerf Sub-Zero's freezing moves and Scorpion's harpoon - sorry, but a move that stuns the enemy and lets you unleash any combo you want is better than just hitting em with some fireball.

The early screens look like the graphics have been improved quite a bit. I liked MK:DA, and this looks superior to that.

Guys, seriously, try typing it as MK : DA, because when you put the : right next to the D it becomes :D . Just a helpful hint.

Hell, it could even just be MKDA, I'd know what you're talking about.

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Originally Posted by Korly

Guys, seriously, try typing it as MK : DA, because when you put the : right next to the D it becomes :D . Just a helpful hint.

Hell, it could even just be MKDA, I'd know what you're talking about.

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No!! I must type it MK:DA.

MK:DA MK:DA MK:DA!

I disagree about the harpoon, Count. You're talking about it like it's some kind of unblockable. It isn't. As a matter of fact, it's extremely easy to block or side-step, and when you do, Scorpion is left wide open for some punishment, as his recovery sucks for a missed harpoon.

Just so you know. :p

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Originally Posted by Korly

Guys, seriously, try typing it as MK : DA, because when you put the : right next to the D it becomes :D . Just a helpful hint.

Hell, it could even just be MKDA, I'd know what you're talking about.

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Yeah, seriously.

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Originally Posted by Captain Vegetable

I disagree about the harpoon, Count. You're talking about it like it's some kind of unblockable. It isn't. As a matter of fact, it's extremely easy to block or side-step, and when you do, Scorpion is left wide open for some punishment, as his recovery sucks for a missed harpoon.

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I'll give you the harpoon, but I still say the freezing stuff is BS. :p

Maybe the freezing stuff is BS, maybe it isn't. I've never been the biggest Sub-Zero fan, but not for any "cheapness" he might exploit. I think he's an excellent character, and with MK: DA focusing on him, predominantly, I'd be a little disappointed if he didn't return, freeze-ball in tow, to the new game, even though I never use him. Sub-Zero is to MK as Ryu is to SF. You just gotta have him in the mix.

"Come here!"

*uppercut*

I wanna see scorp shoot that snake-like thing he has in the movies!

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Originally Posted by Captain Vegetable

Maybe the freezing stuff is BS, maybe it isn't. I've never been the biggest Sub-Zero fan, but not for any "cheapness" he might exploit. I think he's an excellent character, and with MK: DA focusing on him, predominantly, I'd be a little disappointed if he didn't return, freeze-ball in tow, to the new game, even though I never use him. Sub-Zero is to MK as Ryu is to SF. You just gotta have him in the mix.

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I remember when they left scorpion out of MK3 till ultimate edition came around. You could imagine how some MK diehards felt at the time.

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Originally Posted by AstroBlue

"Come here!"

*uppercut*

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"GET OVER HERE!"

*Roundhouse kick*

I think the MK announcer is my favorite fighting game voice. That and "toasty". You know you have a fun job when you can put in jokes into your work and have everyone quoting it.

Jay and silent Bob would make great hidden characters. Seriously! :nod:

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Originally Posted by DArque Bishop

2) It's actually like the old game Archon. Once a piece moves into a space occupied by another, the game switches to a standard fighting round, and the winner takes that square.

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Didn't NeoZeedeater say he really liked Archon a lot? Pretty cool addition right there.

I'm interested in this. I enjoyed Deadly Alliance.

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Originally Posted by voltz

I remember when they left scorpion out of MK3 till ultimate edition came around. You could imagine how some MK diehards felt at the time.

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Actually, I'm one of the MK diehards you mentioned, so I don't have to imagine. :p

I was pissed.

I knew there had to be one onboard.

They kept his spear in, but why the hell did they take out his teleport? I used to have a good counter doing that.

Scorpion was the best character in the whole MK universe until MK3 reared it's ugly, deformed, no Scorpion having face. I still liked the game, but is definitely the worst of the series. The new character stock, with little exception, was a joke, the Fatalities were so outrageous that I never even liked preforming them, the run button was an alright addition, and the combo system was a joke. Sindel was one of the only new characters worth anything in the game (thank God for her return! :D ), and the rest was just crap.

MK3 single handedly destroyed the franchise base. It went from super dark and gory, to no more than a tongue in cheek poke at popular culture and the media coverage of the video game medium.

Blech! :curse:

Mortal Kombat 4 did much to restore the franchise to it's former glory, but something was still amiss. MK: DA totally redeemed the series, and I'm very glad it did.

And to get back on topic: Scorpion was missing in only a single incarnation of the series. The one that sucked the MK mythos into the bowels of Hell. Funny, eh? You'd think Scorpion would be right at home in all that hellfire. :p

And I can't for the life of me reason why they got rid of his teleport.

MK Team: "Guess what guys! We got rid of Scorpion!"
Us: "WTF, you assholes!"
MK Team: "Oh. You . . . you mean you don't like that?"
Us: "No, jerkoff, we don't like it."
MK Team: "Well, OK then! We'll bring him back, but we'll give him the lamest combos in the game, and we'll take out his extremely worth while move, the teleport punch! What do you think now, smarty?!"
Us: "We hate you."

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MK Team: "Guess what guys! We got rid of Scorpion!"
Us: "WTF, you assholes!"
MK Team: "Oh. You . . . you mean you don't like that?"
Us: "No, jerkoff, we don't like it."
MK Team: "Well, OK then! We'll bring him back, but we'll give him the lamest combos in the game, and we'll take out his extremely worth while move, the teleport punch! What do you think now, smarty?!"
Us: "We hate you."

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My thoughts exactly. They also changed sub's slide to a shoulder ram and removed his ice shower. :yuck:

I never was too fond of the ice shower, but killing his slide was totally uncalled for. An attack that used to hit low now hits mid, and all of a sudden his game is way off. Crap! I declare shenanigans!

I want to know how Ermac is going to play. Kenshi seems to me like he has the move set that Ermac would had he been in Deadly Alliance. So in risk of just being a clone, I bet he'll just have his green fireball. And perhaps the teleport punch?
Ermac and Noob Saibot will be the first characters I play as when I get my hands on a copy.

I dunno why you'd complain about them changing characters' moves... In my eyes, that makes you have to re-learn the game (and thusly makes it worth playing, because it's something new), unlike say Street Fighter or KOF where characters' moves are changed seldomly and you end up playing the same god damn game over and over and over again with different graphics and music.

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I dunno why you'd complain about them changing characters' moves... In my eyes, that makes you have to re-learn the game (and thusly makes it worth playing, because it's something new), unlike say Street Fighter or KOF where characters' moves are changed seldomly and you end up playing the same god damn game over and over and over again with different graphics and music.

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Characters should also maintain how they play, either argument is vaild I suppose.

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Originally Posted by Giga Power

Ermac and Noob Saibot will be the first characters I play as when I get my hands on a copy.

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Assuming you don't have to unlock them. :p

I'll be using Sindel, straight up. She's my most favorite MK character, ever.

Well, maybe not ever, but I do think she's the bee's knees.

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Originally Posted by Captain Vegetable

Assuming you don't have to unlock them. :p

I'll be using Sindel, straight up. She's my most favorite MK character, ever.

Well, maybe not ever, but I do think she's the bee's knees.

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Yeah you could be right, but I'm just assuming that they will be included in the main cast, considering they've already been revealed.
I hope Rain makes it in. Hear me Ed?!?!
*shakes fist*

Rain? Oh yeah he better make it in there!

I always thought Rain was trash. Noob is freaking cool, though. I wonder if he'll still have his shadow-double throw move.

No way man, Rain is the shit. I love his moves, his lightning bolt to force ball to super high kick is best. Hell, all the ninjas are the shit. Oh man, Trilogy is the best.

There you are, Regus! I've been waiting for you to show up since page one. :D

I never liked Rain. The rest of the ninjas are great, but Rain's moves just don't do anything for me. Especially that stupid "super" roundhouse kick. And his control ball is rediculous. And he wears lavender. I mean, come on guys, lavender?! WTF?!

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Originally Posted by Regus

Oh man, Trilogy is one the best fucking games of all time.

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Edited for awesomeness.

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Originally Posted by Captain Vegetable

Rain was awesome and I'm sorry he's no longer in the series.

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I fixed that for you too.

That sounds like something I would say. Trilogy is pretty fucking bad ass. Hey, have you guys seen those two MKTrilogy and UMK3 combo vids that were floating around a few months back? It featured people doing some crazy ass glitch combos.

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Originally Posted by Regus

That sounds like something I would say. Trilogy is pretty fucking bad ass.

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Hell yeah, I got my copy brand new for 10 last year, and I've played that shit out, I'm surprised it still works well.

It's just a good, mindless fighter, and that's why I enjoy it. Plus all the different -alities are alot of fun as well. I'll never forget Johnny Cage's Friendship... "To my biggest fan!!"

I like to turn off the auto combos, but leave run and aggressor on, so you get the best of both worlds, old kombat style combos, with a much faster pacing. You should try playing the 2 vs 2 team battles against a friend. That shit is so fucking fun. The rounds go by so fast, I love it when you finish off their first guy, they explode into a million peices and the other guy jumps in his place. As for the -alties, most of them are cheesy (like the new stupid ass animalities), but I don't care, its all in good fun, the only ones I don't like are the Brutalties, it's way too much effort for such little reward. The list of buttons you have to press is rediculous, I don't think I've ever pulled it off.

Anyway, It's really is a great game, and I think it's pretty under rated. I wish the newer Kombats retained the same sense of speed as Trilogy had.

Does anyone know how much the MK trilogy strat guide is going for on ebay?

I never expected to see the combos like the ones they listed, but whoever gamefan hired back then was a real MK freak!

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Originally Posted by voltz

Does anyone know how much the MK trilogy strat guide is going for on ebay?

I never expected to see the combos like the ones they listed, but whoever gamefan hired back then was a real MK freak!

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Considering there are auctions that started at 3.99 and got no bids, I'd wager it's not too rare.

"Impressive"

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Originally Posted by voltz

I never expected to see the combos like the ones they listed, but whoever gamefan hired back then was a real MK freak!

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I have a GamePro Fighter's Edge one.... *TEH CRINGE*

I've never seen those glitch combo vids, Regus. Hook a brothah up?

And I'll agree with the concensus: MKT is a really bad ass game.

I have two copies of the MK3 Gamefan guide, but I neve even knew they made one for MK Trilogy. I'll have to get ahold of that some day.

You should look at it, they've managed to load it with tons of MvsC style combos.

Looks interesting, I didn't love Deadly Alliance but I did enjoy it for a very little while. I'll check it out.

Vids:
http://www.darktemplarz.com/combovideos/

That link has the MK Trilogy vid I saw a while ago (ninjag_cephalickomtril.wmv), it was made using the N64 version, which is apparently such a horrendous display of programing that it opens itself up to unimaginable glitches. The other vids usually are about UMK3 with some Trilogy tossed in for good measure. I suggest starting with UMK3.wmv.

Thanks, man. I'm viewing the hotness now. I'll be back with comments.

HAHAHA!!! Sindel wins: Rediculous Victory. :lol:

Man. That was awesome. Those combos are freaking rediculous.

MK TRIVIA!: Where did Ermac get his name, and what game in the series did he forst appear in?

Error Macro. It was an error condition.

If you count where Scorpion(?) would turn red and the Ermac message would come up, then it was MK1. Otherwise, it was UMK3.

I read this canon you spoke of, and it says that Kano died in Deadly Alliance. FUCKING DIED. Not only that, but at the hands of Mavado, the shittiest character ever. What the fuck kind of canon is that?

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Originally Posted by Kano On The Phone

I read this canon you spoke of, and it says that Kano died in Deadly Alliance. FUCKING DIED. Not only that, but at the hands of Mavado, the shittiest character ever. What the fuck kind of canon is that?

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I don't believe this news.

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Originally Posted by Captain Vegetable

HAHAHA!!! Sindel wins: Redculous Victory. :lol:

Man. That was awesome. Those combos are freaking rediculous.

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That vid was really crazy, some of the others on that really expose how broken the system is.

I liked the MK music from the movie plus the track that came after it. I don't know what its called, but I've heard it in many anime previews.

Now I want to play MKT, anybody have an idea of which one is best? I'm eyeing either PS or PC.

There was a PC version?

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I read this canon you spoke of, and it says that Kano died in Deadly Alliance. FUCKING DIED.

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Next time you speak with Kano, ask him how he managed to escape this:

HAHAHAHA!!! He totally owned himself! :lol:

A couple of points I'd like to make...

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Originally Posted by Captain Vegetable

...like new Super Puzzle Fighter and Archon type minigames. And every mode of gameplay is online.

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So basically what this means is, we're finally going to get to play Super Puzzle Fighter(albeit a hacked the fuck up version) online? Wow...it's about fucking time! Capcom should be ashamed of themselves :confused:

Another thing is, those pics are getting trashed at GA and a couple other forums I go to. Why? I don't know. They don't look ugly to me at all. Sure they're not at polished and sweet as VF4 Evo or Tekken 4, but what else do you expect from an American developer? Cut Middy some slack for kreissake. :cool:

VF4 Rant...

I am just glad we're getting a couple 3D fighting games in the next few months...PERIOD! I am just about ready to quit playing VF4 altogether...I mean, what's the point? An online version of 4 aint happenin, and an online version of Final Tune has a slim to none chance as well. 6, 7, 8 hours a day mastering Akira? For what? Waste of time. Not like I live in Japan or anything. :confused:

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Originally Posted by isamu

Crap that got posted twice

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Here's a friendly tip... don't post the EXACT same thing that you just posted three pages ago.

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Originally Posted by Roufuss

Here's a friendly tip... don't post the EXACT same thing that you just posted three pages ago.

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Umm, who said I posted that twice? That was the first time I ever posted that message! *shrug*

Protip: look at the first page of this thread.

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Originally Posted by DArque Bishop

Error Macro. It was an error condition.

If you count where Scorpion(?) would turn red and the Ermac message would come up, then it was MK1. Otherwise, it was UMK3.

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You win the prize! And I do count MK1, so it's a good thing you mentioned it. Your turn.

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Originally Posted by diffusionx

Protip: look at the first page of this thread.

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Yeah, man. Like what the Hell was that all about?

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Originally Posted by Captain Vegetable

You win the prize! And I do count MK1, so it's a good thing you mentioned it. Your turn.

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Okay. Why didn't Johnny Cage appear in MK3? (Hint, it had to do with the actor who played him in MK1 and MK2.)

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Originally Posted by voltz

That vid was really crazy, some of the others on that really expose how broken the system is.

I liked the MK music from the movie plus the track that came after it. I don't know what its called, but I've heard it in many anime previews.

Now I want to play MKT, anybody have an idea of which one is best? I'm eyeing either PS or PC.

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Either way, you're screwed.

The PS version of MKT is one of the few games that doesn't work properly on PS2. Apparently it locks up when the game is over and reaches zero on the countdown to continue.

The PC version requires a bit of messing around to get working if you have a recent video card. One of the MK Online forum mods managed to get instructions up on how to get it working at http://www.mortalkombatonline.com/co...c&message=1778 .

Hope this helps...

I got that PSM issue, cool info and pics even if unfinished.

All the characters included look awesome and graphics look slicker. The arenas and stage weapons are a real cool addition. I'm hoping the characters just control quicker in response and combos are less awkward to pull off. Sub Zero's other costume looks a bit lame though they should have kept his awesome DA masked one.

New hi-res render of Mileena online...

http://www.mkdeception.midway.com/hi...a_high_res.jpg

Can the PC version of MKT be played online? If not, some one should get on that, post haste.

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Originally Posted by Regus

Can the PC version of MKT be played online? If not, some one should get on that, post haste.

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Only if you're using... gah, can't remember the name of it now.

It only supported network play via IPX.

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Originally Posted by DArque Bishop

Only if you're using... gah, can't remember the name of it now.

It only supported network play via IPX.

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woah woah woah!!! I own the PC bersion of MKT...are you saying it can be played online though some IPX thingy??????????????

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Originally Posted by isamu

woah woah woah!!! I own the PC bersion of MKT...are you saying it can be played online though some IPX thingy??????????????

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That's exactly what I'm saying.

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New hi-res render of Mileena online...

http://www.mkdeception.midway.com/hi...a_high_res.jpg

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That pic took center page in PSM. :)

Her other outfit is even more revealing, if you can believe that.

I've always loved Mileena. Ever since I saw her 1000-Stab Fatality in MKII, I was hooked. I could give a damn about how much flesh she shows, I'm just glad she's back.

And Sindel! Never forget about the Sindel!. :)

And, dude, I have no idea what the answer to your trivia question is. I could have sworn Carlos Pisina (sp?) played Cage in the first MK, but I'm not sure.

Tell us the answer Darque, now I'm intrigued.

I know that he wasn't going to be in the original version of MKT (back when it was first being developed for the Nintendo 64 as a exclusive) beause the original actor wanted too much dough, and they would have to hire a new actor and do new sprites.
Of course we all know that it ended up happening. He also didn't have the split in MKT because the actor couldn't do one.

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Originally Posted by Korly

Tell us the answer Darque, now I'm intrigued.

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It's because the guy who played him and the ninjas in MK and MKII, Daniel Pesina, made the monumentally stupid mistake of posing for an ad for the game Bloodstorm in his Johnny Cage costume. The ad's caption even said, "Even MK's Johnny Cage prefers Bloodstorm!"

Weirdly enough, his relative Carlos (don't remember if he's Daniel's cousin or brother) contributed so much to the series (he played Raiden in MK1-MKT and did much of the motion capture work for MK:DA) that the MK team made Mokap to honor the work he did.

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It's because the guy who played him and the ninjas in MK and MKII, Daniel Pesina, made the monumentally stupid mistake of posing for an ad for the game Bloodstorm in his Johnny Cage costume. The ad's caption even said, "Even MK's Johnny Cage prefers Bloodstorm!"

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What a jackass.

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Weirdly enough, his relative Carlos (don't remember if he's Daniel's cousin or brother) contributed so much to the series (he played Raiden in MK1-MKT and did much of the motion capture work for MK:DA) that the MK team made Mokap to honor the work he did.

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Heh. That's pretty cool. I knew it was a Pesina! :p

Do us another one, eh? You seem to know a lot more about the MK deal than even myself. Shoot.

Do it.


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Do it.

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Do us another one, eh? You seem to know a lot more about the MK deal than even myself. Shoot.

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I work for an MK site. I kinda have to.

Okay, another one... on the same lines, who DID sue Midway after MKII asking for more money?

Which MK site? MK5.org?

I have no idea what the answer is, but I'll wager a guess. I imagine it's a character whose actor didn't return for MK3, so . . . Shang Tsung?

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Which MK site? MK5.org?

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Yeah, except we call ourselves Mortal Kombat Online now.

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I have no idea what the answer is, but I'll wager a guess. I imagine it's a character whose actor didn't return for MK3, so . . . Shang Tsung?

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You're close.

It was Katalin Zamiar (MKII Jade, Kitana, and Mileena), Elizabeth Malecki (MK1 Sonya), and Philip Ahn M.D. (MKII Shang Tsung). They sued Midway because they felt they were entitled to more money because their likenesses were used in the home versions as well. The suit was dismissed because the plaintiffs didn't prove their case.

(I said it was close because Shang Tsung was in MK3... he just looked a lot better in MKII.)

I know Tsungy was in MK3, but it wasn't the same actor. I didn't know the guy's name, so I called him by his character's. ;)

That's really cool about MK Online. Is it a paying gig? And if so, want to give me a job? :p

Wow, learning some great info on the MK games here, thanks for the tidbits, DArque.

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I know Tsungy was in MK3, but it wasn't the same actor. I didn't know the guy's name, so I called him by his character's. ;)

That's really cool about MK Online. Is it a paying gig? And if so, want to give me a job? :p

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Nah, it's not a paying gig, unless you count the E3 passes Midway gives us each year to cover their games. Sometimes, though, it would be really nice if it was... heh. (Like when we held that developer chat and got overwhelmed when a thousand people showed up. I nearly had a cardiac arrest that night.)

With all of this Mortal Kombat talk I sat down last night and played Deadly Alliance for several hours. There were a few characters that I hadn't finished in Konquest, and I still had ten or more krypts to unlock. (All Onyx and Platinum)
The game is better than I remember it being. I quit playing it when I got it because of how annoying the combo system was, but if you just enter everything in slower and actually do it as your character is hitting his/her opponent you'l nail it.
I remembered the fatalities being awful too, and for the most part they are. But there are some really good ones in there too. The ones I liked were-
Cyrax
Reptile
Johnny Cage
Sub-Zero
and Kenshi (even though the eyeballs at the start look a little too cartoony, I would have only had four on this list, so I decided to include this one anyway)

I had fun playing it though. A lot of fun actually. I plan on playing it later when I get finished surfing the net. It's a really good fighting game that's slightly above average for 3D Fighters. If it was just faster and a little more seamless it would be perfect.
I have more problems with the "Mortal Kombat" side of it. The fatalities were about as original as stomping on someone's head (two of the characters do this) and the character designs just don't feel MK to me. And the character portraits and look of the entire game...they look like action figures. (Johnny Cage's select portrait being a prime example)
I also hated all of the new characters with the exception of Mei Li and Kenshi. Boa Rai Cho (if that's spelled right) is the worst character to enter the MK scene. I mean I'm ok with a little humor in my MK, but farting and barfing? Come on Ed Boon, maybe you need Tobias back.
The storyline for the most part is awesome. Really digs into the MK mythos.
The fact is though, I'm really pumped about MK6/Deception. If they can fix these small little gripes I've had it just might be a perfect game. They're already on the right track adding Ermac and Noob back into the roster, here's to hoping it's a massive improvement instead of just update to Deadly Alliance.
(My post might seem overly negative, but it's a testament to the game considering that most of my complaints had nothing to do with the gameplay