Bush is next door to my job.

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Howard Stern starts criticising Bush and says to vote him out of office, a few days later he gets kicked off ClearChannel (for indecency, sure) and the FCC is currently processing the enormous fine they will be giving Viacom for something he said three years ago. Then they'll pressure them into paying the fine and firing Stern. Rush Limbaugh and Don Imus are much more offensive but they stay on the air. Hmm.

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Yea, Rush is still on ESPN and all.

Anyway... the guy pushing for these indecency regulations has been Mike Powell, chairman of the FTC. The FTC's been having it for Stern for a long time. He's been fined in the past.

Nipplegate just gave Powell a chance to move.

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Tell me about it. What an ugly vehicle. My car gets good gas mileage, though, so I won't need to buy a Prius until my car dies. :)

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I think the latest Prius-- I don't really know if it's an offshoot or the 2004 model or what, is pretty nice looking. It looks more normal.

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Yea, Rush is still on ESPN and all.

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If you look back through the thread about that I said they were overreacting even though I can't stand Rush. :)

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Anyway... the guy pushing for these indecency regulations has been Mike Powell, chairman of the FTC. The FTC's been having it for Stern for a long time. He's been fined in the past.

Nipplegate just gave Powell a chance to move.

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Right. Powell was not elected, he was appointed. The FCC fined Stern and Viacom was not allowed to go to court to have it determined whether what he said was indecent or not. The FCC only has rules, they have no power to make laws. Stern breaks no laws with his show. FileRoom's page about Stern's past fines. No court has ever ruled on indecency with the exception of the seven dirty words. None of which are used during Stern's broadcast and none of which get through the censor when callers use them.

The reason I'm so vocal about this is because the same crap happened to pretty much all of the radio stations in Connecticut when they tried to fight back against ClearChannel's forceful takeovers - licenses were delayed, paperwork was lost, etc. The last day of broadcast for one particular station, I believe their dial position was 105.1 or 105.9, some rock station, was uncensored in protest and the DJs who (if I'm not mistaken) were fired encouraged people who cared to fight back.

The problem is that the people who listen to crap like Stern DON'T VOTE. They have "better things" to do, and if someone tells them to vote, someone else berates them. "Dude, why do you care about politics? Look at porno or something!" Once they "clean up the airwaves", porno's going, too. Damn it.

EDIT: And another thing - if you're getting offended at things you're hearing from someone on the air or on TV, YOU'RE FUCKING STUPID. You don't have the intelligence to comprehend that whoever it is doesn't know you and is not insulting you. The only time to get offended by anything is if someone knows you personally and says something that only they would know about you.

Stone, for instance, knows me in real life. If he were to come on here and say something like, "Dude, your mom is a bitch," and I didn't agree with that (she's a real bitch), I would have every right to be offended. On the other hand, I don't know Lhadatt personally, so if he were to say here or in FC, "Dude, your mom is a bitch," and I didn't agree with that, I would laugh because it's not offensive. Fucking fucky fuck.

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The problem is that the people who listen to crap like Stern DON'T VOTE. They have "better things" to do, and if someone tells them to vote, someone else berates them. "Dude, why do you care about politics? Look at porno or something!" Once they "clean up the airwaves", porno's going, too. Damn it.

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I enjoy voting, listening to Howard Stern, and porno...

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I enjoy voting, listening to Howard Stern, and porno...

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Hehe. Fine, put "the majority of" in there, before "people". Exceptions to rules don't invalidate the rules.

The majority of Stern's users don't like him talking about politics because they don't care, though.

If that's your case, don't vote for Bush. Kerry or Nader or whoever else may be just as crappy, but we have to give someone else a chance. Bush has already proven that he is going to pursue this. (Not him, personally, obviously, but his interests and whatnot.)

New SUV's aren't nearly as bad on fuel economy as the used to be.

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New SUV's aren't nearly as bad on fuel economy as the used to be.

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Isn't there some stuff that car makers could do to make their fuel economy even better? I forget, but I'm pretty sure I heard something to that effect.

The H2, though... terrible with gas. :)

The original is far from a winner too. But in general, many are pushing high 20's now.

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Dick Cheney is on the Haliburton payroll.

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Fact check.

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It doesn't take Mensa to figure out that Iraq has oil, and that a pro-American government in Iraq will sell crude to American refineries at a more favorable price than OPEC.

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You assume the future Iraqi gov't will NOT be part of OPEC, but let's say they won't be. What's wrong w/that scenario?

Before this war, Saddam was the only beneficiary of Iraqi oil. Predictions are always risky but I'm willing to make a substantial wager that the Iraqi ppl will benefit most directly from the expansion of oil production in their country.

On a side note, I find it incomprehensible that among the stated reasons for NOT going to war was that the US would be fighting (in part) over oil reserves. How is that a bad thing?

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Fact check.

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On a side note, I find it incomprehensible that among the stated reasons for NOT going to war was that the US would be fighting (in part) over oil reserves. How is that a bad thing?

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No one deserves to die because of oil. Not Americans, not Iraqis, nobody. Anyone who prefers oil over human lives is a scumbag.

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I would argue he no longer has (meaningful) ties w/the company, but he's still getting paid...for work from 6 years ago. We could have an interesting semantical argument about this...

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Yeah, and it's purely circumstantial that Haliburton has been knee-deep in Iraqi reconstruction from the get-go, even considering the scandal involving Haliburton extorting from the American military.

EDIT: Before you even ask, here