Capitalism + China = New Freedoms

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Originally Posted by Dragonmaster Dyne

whats a bocott?

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A typo of boycott.

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Originally Posted by Damian79

Um, you are not considering the numbers here. China has a couple of billion of people while the US has about 250 million. 8 soviet era tanks or planes > 1 20th century tank or plane.

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1 Billion people in an army or many tanks doens't mean much when they are on the other side of the world and have no tangible way of attacking the US nor landing/moving them over here without everyone in the world knowing about it.

Missiles, Navy's and Air Force's is about the extent of it.

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Originally Posted by MVS

A typo of boycott.



1 Billion people in an army or many tanks doens't mean much when they are on the other side of the world and have no tangible way of attacking the US nor landing/moving them over here without everyone in the world knowing about it.

Missiles, Navy's and Air Force's is about the extent of it.

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That goes both ways. We have the same limitations in attacking them as they do us.

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Originally Posted by MVS

China is on my bocott list.

This changes nothing for me.

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Good luck with consuming nothing.

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Originally Posted by Gohron

Even with all of China's people, as it stands now they would get their asses horribly kicked in a war with us, and I think it'll be that way for some time. They don't have the tank technology and considering we can match most of their air force with a single carrier group shows how lacking their air force is. Mass amounts of people doesn't mean what it did fifty years ago, lots of tanks and planes helps but technology can make a HUGE differance and considering China is still using Soviet-Era equipment they're a little bit behind the loop.

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We would all fucking die in a nuclear holocaust, so the argument is moot.

Nope.

We have:

Missiles that can hit anywhere on Earth, they don't.
We have planes that can fly around the world with the refuling infastructure and bases we have, they don't.
We have 18 Ballistic Missile submarines with 24 Nuclear Warhead's each, they don't.
We have a Navy/Airforce that dwarfs them, they don't. (This is why they are so intent on developing a Hyper-sonic missile that can destroy ships in the US Fleet).

Today, we could rain nuclear death on them in a matter of minutes, and they are not at the level where they could do the same.

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Originally Posted by burgundy

Good luck with consuming nothing.

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It's worked for 10 years. I don't see the problem suddenly getting worse.

China can't invade Taiwan, let alone anywhere else.

China's Military Status

Frank W Moore, IDDS Research Analyst
June 2000

Conclusions:
China's military is modernizing, but there are distinct limits to the modernization program. First, the current force structure is so old that the rate of retirement will exceed the rate of acquisition in all major weapons categories, with the possible exception of major surface combatants. This means that the size of China’s armed forces will continue a recent pattern of decline, and to drop quite steeply in some cases, such as combat aircraft. The only exception may be China's surface combat ships.

Second, the modernization is proceeding slowly and in a piecemeal manner. All military forces take a significant amount of time to integrate new weapon systems into its forces; for China the process seems to take longer than most.

Third, China is adding only a handful of modern systems to its inventory. New systems are purchased in small batches or singly, which is cannot dramatically change the balance of power. Moreover, while "modern" relative to existing Chinese systems, current acquisitions from Russia are not as capable as the comparable systems fielded by the United States or even Japan, South Korea, or Taiwan.

Finally, China's military modernization plan has highlighted the inability of the indigenous arms industry in China to produce the advanced technology weapon systems that the military wants. The recent return to dependence on foreign assistance (specifically, aircraft and naval vessels from Russia, and technical assistance from Israel) runs contrary to the Chinese government’s desire to fully control its own military destiny.

China may eventually change its policies and invest more financial resources in military modernization; but for the foreseeable future, China's potential for military action in Taiwan and other areas will remain limited. China may take a more active military role in its region, but the overall balance of power in East Asia will remain unchanged.

-_- that may or may not be true, as it is anyones guess how true any of that is. (the US isn't known for letting it's own people think another nation could be a real threat. Unless they are already at war with that nation.)

Regardless, going to war with one of the worlds largest countries probably isn't a wonderful smart idea.

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Originally Posted by diffusionx

My Air Force Ones aren't gonna be making themselves.

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HA! Now that made me LOL.

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Originally Posted by MVS

China is on my bocott list.

This changes nothing for me.

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*Checks list*

France
Russia
Germany
China
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Yep. On mine as well.

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Originally Posted by Yoshi

*Checks list*

France
Russia
Germany
China
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Yep. On mine as well.

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Looks a lot like mine, except that I can't boycott China. My girlfriend is Chinese and I know too many Chinese people to tell them, "Hey, fuck your country and it's exports." As long as France is on there, though, I'm okay. ;)

Boycotting France is stupid right-wing bullshit. You shouldn't blame the French people for the actions of their government. I, for one, sure as hell don't want to be blamed for all the stupid shit Bush has done.

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Originally Posted by g0zen

Boycotting France is stupid right-wing bullshit. You shouldn't blame the French people for the actions of their government. I, for one, sure as hell don't want to be blamed for all the stupid shit Bush has done.

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Oi vey.