"Oh yeah? We'll you're not allowed to rent here anymore!"
"YEAH!"
I still think this game will be sick. I just want in the beta so I can waste my time for free. I need a new game to play.
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"Oh yeah? We'll you're not allowed to rent here anymore!"
"YEAH!"
I still think this game will be sick. I just want in the beta so I can waste my time for free. I need a new game to play.
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Originally Posted by omfgninjas
:lol:
No one cared until you said the same thing over and over again with loud, obnoxious disregard towards any (more informed) opinion that didn't match your own.Quote:
Originally Posted by NoFace
Gee, sorry for continuing to discuss the same point, and I'm really sorry the information I read didn't sway my opinion on the matter.
Or you could not take my opinions so seriously (insert witty "I don't anyway!" comment after this), seeing as how you're the one most bothered by them... that might help you too.
omfgninjas got SERVED.Quote:
Originally Posted by NoFace
The experience system is deceptive. Imagine if the amount of experience you got in EverQuest slowly went down the longer you played. Supposed experience bonus or not, that's exactly what WoW feels like.Quote:
Originally Posted by NoFace
I am surprised that People are whinging about the complaints about the game. Blizzard games for the last decade gained a TON from user complaints. And also the fact that Blizzard is one of the few devs that tries to balance their game and spend so much time removingn the cheaters from the online games.
Games like Starcraft, Diablo 2 and Warcraft 3 gained many improvements because of tweaking by Blizzard due to customer complaints. I doubt that WoW would be any different.
It's on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kano On The Phone
I think most people, myself included, are well aware that Blizzard will make numerous changes to WoW. You can't be a competitive MMORPG in the market without making sure things are balanced and working properly to a degree. I fully expect Blizzard to do a fantastic job keeping the game balanced, bug-free, and full of content for many years, starting with beta.Quote:
Originally Posted by Damian79
truth. everybody seems to act like this is the final build.Quote:
Originally Posted by NoFace
It would take a complete overhaul of the game to make it anything other than a standard MMORPG with nice graphics. From what I've experienced playing early beta builds of Ultima Online, EverQuest, Asheron's Call, Anarchy Online and Dark Age of Camelot, MMORPG betas are about balancing skills and damage, fixing bugs and testing server capacity. The core design (the 'heart' of a game) never changes drastically. It might be tweaked, but the underlying fundamentals are always there.
That's not to say WoW is bad at what it does. I'm just burnt out on MMORPG in the same way I was burnt out on fighting games by the mid-1990's. It's going to take a Virtua Fighter 2 to get me interested again.
I was referred to this thread by a friend. There appear to be a few discontent beta testers here.
I am offering $400 via Paypal for a World of Warcraft beta account. Serious/verified sellers only, contact me at paypalwowbeta@hotmail.com.
Feel free to flame away if you want.
Don't mind if I do. You're a piece of shit and I hope you get busted by Blizzard!
why? if your not using it you can sell it. nice way to welcome people asshole. and it was me the referred him. funny somebody else mentioned selling their account in this thread but they didnt get assinine comments. but thats what i should expect from this board.
For one thing, that person didn't say "I'll sell it to you for 400!" He said he gave it to a friend and then heard that people are selling their accounts. Second, sounds like Blizzard doesn't want people to sell their accounts from the Agreement they have up.
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Originally Posted by Blizzard Terms of Use
Well. It's pretty obvious that this,Quote:
Originally Posted by Dragonmaster Dyne
is very much different from this,Quote:
Originally Posted by thray-walsh
Errr...what Rumpy said. Damn my slow posting skills. :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Evasion2004
Every MMORPG agreement has that same clause, and "ebay" trading still persists in all of them. It is less of a binding agreement than a statement to protect the involved company from being blamed/held liable for outside-transactions gone bad.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rumpy
Idealism has no home on the internet.
Yeah I agree... but that's TNL for you lately :\Quote:
Originally Posted by Dragonmaster Dyne
Though offering to buy it is against Blizzard's beta testing policy, but even just giving the beta to someone else is against the policy as well since they require you're information (whether they got it from you signing up or if they have it on file) and if you hand it off to someone else that is technically against the rules as well.
Personally I don't have anything against people giving them to people who will actually use them myself... I can think of a few beta kits that would've been better off with someone else instead of being used as paperweights or whatever they used them for cause they sure didn't use them for testing :p
Are people getting hundreds of dollars for their beta accounts? That's freaking retarded. That shit is no where near worth that much.
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not worth that much to YOU. people do pay that much, just like people will buy radient silvergun for $150+. whats the fucking difference? just because you dont have one to sell? get over it. you ever seen EQ accounts on ebay? or how about the first jedi slots in Galaxies. get out, get cultured and come back when you know what you're arguing about.
I saw two accounts on ebay go for ~$400 before they were taken down; one turned out to be a scam.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rumpy
Frankly, I have a well-paying job and I've been waiting for this game since it was announced and unfortunately, I did not make it into the first two phases. The beta will be going on for another 5 months minimum; in my mind the price I'm paying accurately represents the amount of entertainment I feel I would be getting during the course of the beta.
I should have put in my first post an apology if this offends anyone, as I knew it would. My offer still stands though, and again, I'm sorry if I really offended anyone by making these posts.
the thing is you shouldnt have to apologize. this is just how most around here get their rocks off.
What's the difference with paying 150+ for RS? Nothing, that's retarded too. Because I don't know about every video game out there means I'm not cultured? What crawled up your ass and died?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dragonmaster Dyne
And 400!? That's insane. Even after buying the game for 50 and assuming it'll be $15 a month you could play WoW for damn near 2 years for that price! Hell of a lot better than 5 months with mad bugs and shit. I'm glad I'm not that impatient.
its his money, not yours. why do you care? thats my only point. and my non cultured point was to the fact that you seemed ignorant that people pay this much for betas, which i backed up with the other MMORPG account gouging affairs as well. it happens. just let it be and the kittens will not cry. just sit back in your lounger :D
lol, I suck. I thought he was selling his account for $400. Changes things a bit if you're willing to pay that much. I still think your crazy, but not in a "you'rw a piece of shit because you're asking for an insane amount of money for something they are giving away to thousands of people" kind of way.
omg.........we need to learn people how to READ here. no worries.
:lol: Grammar helps too. I read his post through more than once too, I'm usually better than that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dragonmaster Dyne
oh its proper grammar. you just interpret it wrong :D
No prob. I would still understand if you thought I was a piece shit since I was expecting some people to do so lol. But glad you sorted that out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rumpy
I was talking about your grammar here--> "we need to learn people how to READ here". Sounds funny.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dragonmaster Dyne
Anyway, enough bullshit, someone talk about the game. How about someone in the beta? Hows the latest release and shit?
Oh, Evasion, are you going to buy it at release too?
oh i knew what you were talking about. you know.....my brand new p4 2.6 that i have oc'ed to 3.2 would LOVE to try this game out :(
now i just gotta wait for the new cards to ship.
It'd be pretty silly of me to pay $400 for a game I'm not playing when it goes retail lol.
I've put a lot of money into getting a professional site designed and up and running for a guild. The whole reason of me forking out a lot of money is the knowledge of game content and mechanics first-hand before the game even ships, giving a huge advantage over the majority of the playerbase who did not participate in the beta. At the level I typically play at for MMORPGs, it's a big thing, also known as l337 beta inf0z.
And in case I gave the wrong impression, I am NOT an ebayer, or someone who buys all my items online. Just simply looking to get my hands on a nice account :)
Uh, yeah.Quote:
Originally Posted by Evasion2004
The original post was too easily misunderstood. Actually it was the fact that I didn't even think that someone would post on a messageboard wanting to buy an account and offering something like $400.
And apologies for the previous post of mine. Just a miscommunication.
At least me and Six were in the same boat. Good to know I'm not cracking up.
"I am offering $400 via Paypal for a World of Warcraft beta account. Serious/verified sellers only"
not trying to beat the issue here but HOW is this misunderstood. he said he's OFFERING, and was looking for a verified SELLER meaning he's BUYING. too may people here dont take the time to read and automatically get that tick to hit reply and spout off.
You also know the guy and had prior knowledge of his intentions. Rumpy and I did not. He could have written jibberish and you would have known exactly what he was saying. :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Dragonmaster Dyne
Like I posted before, the idea that someone would offer to pay $400 to play a beta version of a game had never crossed my mind. I had dismissed that fact before I read the post on the grounds that it was totally ludicrous to me. I made a mistake.
Though I would have posted something like this if I wanted to buy a beta account -
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Originally Posted by Me Buying A Beta Account
This part seemed really weird to me when I first read it, "There appear to be a few discontent beta testers here." Made no sense when I thought he was selling.
and it was in the wrong forum. try the trade depot ;)
How many people here even got in? 3?
guys....just say it. say you made a mistake. c'mon.......i won't think less of you. is til dont see how much clearer he could have made it. besides. the point is now moot. the kitties have long since cried.
are the panda guys in this game? i havn't seen info regarding them yet so i would guess no.
which is what 85% of posts usually are here. its an acquired skill that ive long built up :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Six
Well, for the record, I totally knew what he meant, and if I had gotten into the beta, I wouldn't think twice about giving up my key for $400 ;)
A friend of mine was chosen to beta test the other day. I'll be sure to tell him.
Appreciate it Green. If he's interested, he can contact me at the address I gave (paypalwowbeta@hotmail.com).Quote:
Originally Posted by Green
I'm also a verified Paypal member, so no worries about fraud from my end.
Looks like we made a Love Connection. See ya next time folks!
Not necessarily yet, but we can hope ;)
its not see ya next time, its "be back in two and two"!Quote:
Originally Posted by Rumpy
LOL I haven't been reading this thread much. This is hilarious ... although I guess you should be careful about this kind of thing else Blizzard is going to start locking accounts.
In any case, there's been an update on Blizzard's plans for the XP Fatigue and Rest. It sounds like the next patch will change the rest system to something far more agreeable with most of the people, including providing us with gradual rest rather than forcing us to rest for 8 hours.
Other than that, the game this push feels really glitchy. Worse than last push. There's bugs everywhere... both the world servers just went down today and last night (the entire continent of Kalimdor was down for several hours last night) and many people report weird problems with latency spikes... we're talking weird segments when your ping goes from 100ms to 3000-5000ms suddenly and the game stalls.
Wait... there's no player healing of fatigue? :lol: I was 100% sure two months ago that this would compliment SWG this fall. The more I hear the more money I save...Quote:
Originally Posted by negitoro
It's a different kind of fatigue though. SWG had wounds which require you to have camps or go to cantinas/med centers to heal them, while this is purely an experience thing. Also, you've got the free items that warp you instantly back to an inn to heal up, so you don't need camps to lower your experience fatigue or whatever you'd call it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yoshi
And I'm not explaining this to you of course, but the people who haven't played SWG and might get the wrong impression.
So, yeah. It pretty much rules the earth.
Hit me with specific questions, otherwise I'd type for pages.
What race/class you playing as?
How's the combat so far compared to other MMORPGs (if you've played others)? Is it fun?
How's zoning work, and how big are the zones?
Can I please have your account? ;)
I think those are all my questions :)
Any/all
Most similar to the class variety of Everquest, with a dash of the nifty animations and special moves of DAoC. All combined with Blizzard artwork, animations, and style. Special effects and sounds are very nice, and the variety of moves, spells, and abilities per class is immense. Yes, it is extremely fun.
I've seen exactly one (brief) instance of loading the entire time I've played the game. In one case, I travelled to an entirely different region of the continent, recalled, and the game didn't load or hitch. Poof, I was there.
thbbbt
I hate MMORPGS.Quote:
Originally Posted by Victrix
I hate Everquest.
I love Blizzard.
I love Warcraft III.
How will I feel about WoW?
What do you hate about them?
So do I - this game is EQ minus every damned annoying little aggravating bit of stupid design anywhere and everywhere in the game
m2m2
m2m2
Dunno. If you don't like questing, leveling, exploring, crafting, fighting, dungeon delving, consensual pvp, character growth, grouping, and guilds, then no, you probably won't like WoW any more than any other online rpg.
What I don't like about MMORPGS:
Autocombat
Camping
Fighting the same wimpy looking snake for days
Takes way to long to level - very little satisfaction from playing
Not having a map/automap and getting lost in the first town
Autocombat
Having to sitdown for minutes while staring at a static screen while "regaining mana"
Clicking on a mob to attack them, then just sitting there watching numbers flash on the screen
Monthly fees
Autocombat
*note - some things have changed in EQ since I played it back in the day
My problem with WoW, is at it's core, it still suffers from the same gameplay (or lack of gameplay) features as any other MMORPG. But like I said about, I love the Blizzard, so there is still hope.
If I wanted a massive online interactive gameplay experience I'd play GBSP at my computer with AIM open.
That's very awesome sounding. Especially given how awesome and varied the landscapes look in the screenshots and movies... I can't wait to experience that first-hand.Quote:
Originally Posted by Victrix
Autocombat is present, but every class will be constantly using moves or spells to survive. Some are automatic, use em when they're up. Many are situational.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kidnemo
I haven't camped a thing so far, but then, I never camped in Everquest either, so that's as much a personal decision as it is a design problem. That said, random loot from random creatures and instanced dungeons eliminates the bulk of this problem.
You won't be fighting wimpy snakes for days. Within minutes of starting a Dwarven Warrior, I was exploring a Troll outpost in a cave.
Leveling is extremely rapid in WoW, and the rest system (along with the tweaks they are adding shortly) aid people who play in short amounts.
There's a superb in-game map. The (biggest) towns are still lacking fully detailed maps, but the map isn't fully implemented yet, so I suspect those will show up as well.
There's virtually no downtime. You heal while moving. If you sit, you heal faster. If you sit and eat or drink food, you regen extremely fast. There are also potions and first aid, so even Warriors and Rogues won't have trouble healing.
If you just click on a mob and don't use your abilities, you'll wind up face down in the dirt. Maybe if you attack a critter several levels below you, but definitely not creatures near or above you.
Monthly fees are a simple reality. The games are huge, with giant infrastructure costs. If you don't like that, there's one coming out soon (being shown at E3) that will be free. Can't recall the name offhand. Compared with the cost of a movie, a book, or even a single player game, I don't find the cost to be even the slighest issue in entertainment value per dollar.
Aye, I agree about the monthly fee, that doesn't mean I gotta like 'em though.
I think what is giving me the most trepidation, is that initially WoW was touted as something really ground breaking, but now it's just a really polished MMORPG with Blizzards dedication to quality and wicked design.
I suppose I'll see when I finally try it.
It's ground breaking in that it is the first online game I've played (and I've played damn near all of them) that hasn't had issues jump up and scream 'I'M REALLY GODDAMN ANNOYING'
Maybe they are there somewhere, but I haven't seen them yet. Hell, even tradeskills are cool. No fiddling with inventory. Pick a recipe, have the components, make the item. Concept!
That's how Warcraft 3 ended up too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kidnemo
Yep yep.Quote:
Originally Posted by omfgninjas
Atleast the core genre in WCIII was something I liked.
Any more news about the last phase of the beta they're doing which will let everybody give it a try, albeit briefly, when they stress test the servers?
Nothing other than that it will happen. They've been kinda vague on this point, since they've said there will be a 'phase 3'. I don't know if that means 'phase 3 and then open beta' or if it means 'phase 3 IS open beta'.
The Rest State system will be undergoing some changes in the near future. Among other modifications, we will be adjusting the 8-hour timing to be much more flexible. Rest will be accumulated gradually vs. the “8 hours of rest or nothing” approach that is currently in place. To add to this adjustment, people who do not play for long periods of time (weekend warrior types) will accumulate extra rest. This will allow those who only play once or twice a week the added bonus of playing as “well rested” for longer than those who play on a daily basis.
Another anticipated change is to add the ability to rest from anywhere in the world. This should help players who forget or choose not to log off at an inn. Resting at an inn will remain the preferred method, as tiers will accumulate more rapidly if you log off inside an inn.
Lastly, we are planning on making the Rest State modifier a level-based sliding scale for how much experience you can gain at each tier. That is, at higher level-ranges, the amount of experience that you gain before moving down to the next tier of your Rest State will increase.
Overall, we are happy with the Rest State feature and appreciate everyone’s continued feedback. We realize that it still needs to be adjusted and will continue to do so until it’s where we want it to be.
massive amount of screenshots here:
http://www.xennon.co.uk/jadedsouls/viewtopic.php?t=34
Looks great.
Sounds great too. Rest state is already much more palatteable to me.
And shit... after looking at that link... still looks great too :)
Definitely the game I want most in the next year.
Indeed.
Already have a crew lined up that going to jump on WOW with me. We are just biding time now.
Myself as well, got my usual group of PC gaming buddies ready to hop onboard when it launches. You guys aiming for Horde or Alliance?
Dunno.
It's the VietConnection from, GF, Eggo and Lowdown. They used to run a WC2 site back in the day and lived for that shit. They both played WC3, I'm more of a RA2/Generals RTS man, and this is like their dream come true. I'm only down for a MMORPG if I know good people to play with from the start, otherwise, it's just not worth it.
I'm sure we'll figure out races/classes/horde-alliance shortly before it ships.
Sometime around the end of the year or something, right?
That sounds like a good guess, based on the info Blizzard has dropped (6+ month long beta) and how things are going. I'd guess October, with open beta starting in September (you can carry over your characters from the last phase of beta into retail, which is nice).
Hopefully you'll enjoy it, but like you said, it's all about who you play with... that's what has the potential to make games in this genre truly great. Sounds like your buddies will have no problem having a blast with it though, as Warcraft junkies :)
Yeah, solid crew. Going to make for hell on the sleeping schedule, but these types of games seem pointless to me without at least 2 friends to start with at the same time and run around with.
Were it not for BK being on DC PSO, I would have given up on that game long before I did.
Thankfully WoW should prove much, much less repetitive than PSO. It practically ensures hundreds of hours of played and countless responsibilities shirked off by myself (and most others hooked by it I'd wager).
This is especially true with a good crowd to play with.
I enjoyed PSO quite a bit, though having a bit more fleshed out combat system as well as a random dungeon setup ala Diablo would've done wonders for replayibility.
Ahh, I wasn't trying to hate on PSO, I've logged probably 300-400 hours into that game in all its iterations... I was merely saying a full-fledged MMORPG will have a lot more to offer than a dungeon crawl (PSO, Diablo, etc.). I enjoy both types of games quite a bit :)
I dunno if it will have "a lot more" to offer, what it offers is just different imo.
I mean, afaiak, the gameplay in Diablo 2 is about a zillion leagues better than in anything you can do in an mmorpg.
Those pics in that thread that MVS linked are sweetbombs.
http://www.remash.com/yetiold2.jpg
http://www.remash.com/menethil.jpg
Oh my god I want this game. Are a lot of us here getting WoW? How many do you need to make a guild?
I get the distinct impression a lot of us here are getting WoW. Hopefully I'll get to play with the TNL crowd, the SA goons, and RL friends all on the same server. Chances of that really happening? Little to none I'm sure.
And yes those are damn sexy screenshots (like most from that thread).
Man if this game comes out in September/October it's going to be hell on my fall semester. :(
It's just more of the same, but slightly better. The autocombat can be pretty repetitive--but there are moments of greatness. Last night, after fighting a 50ft swamp elemental, my party got jumped by 8 raptors and won after some pretty hectic fighting.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kidnemo
Also, for rest state bitches: you gain skill points for every 300 base xp of every monster killed, so the hardcore player will have more skill points than the casual player of the same level, at the expense of time spent.
Looking over MVS's link: first off, sweet screenshots. I know my life is going in the crapper when this comes out but I want it anyway. Secondly, I read their page a bit, and guys are talking about running two computers so they can play two characters at once? I assume so you can have a bitch healer/buffer-type in the group w/o anyone to play it? I'm not sure, whatever the case, that's just nuts. Some people get way too into this.
I just hope that Blizzards dedication to great design, polish, and the WC universe are enough to get me into it....cause I really wanna like it. :?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr.Sparkle
yeah my bro belongs to the syndicate. well known for their experience in these types of games. he told me about somebody who would run 4 pc's at once by himself. now that, is nuts. i could never even run myself in a group right.Quote:
Originally Posted by FuryFox
kid im the same as you. i tried eq, i tried ff11.....but theres something about this......although i know its more of the same, but its just that Blizzard feel. theres something undeniable about it that no matter how much something seems milked or the same it still feels good and COMMANDS that you enjoy it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kidnemo
I haven't been keeping up with this thread much, since actually I've spent nearly every free waking hour on WoW.
To throw fire into this debate of the merits of WoW vs "other MMOs", this is my first MMO and I'm having a blast. I previously had huge problems with games like EQ for all the most common reasons, but with WoW, it seems the game is so much more refined.
Most importantly, I haven't had times when I'm 'grinding', like hitting rats and bats for hours and hours just to gte level 2. I'm always making some progress, always have something to do, always finding new places to see...
I'm now Level 25 on my primary character and it just keeps getting better and better.
How big is WoW? Is each server going to be a different continent (like Battle.net east, west, asia)? Or is everyone going to be on one big ass country? Have they said how long it would take to travel from one side to another?
I am looking foreward to WoW. I am hoping Blizzard can take the normal MMO elements and make them fun, like back when Asheron's Call came out and you didnt know how bad it was. Now that the genre is defined a bit more, I dont mind people using elements that have already been used, as long as it doesnt become a bore. And lag, lag makes the game unbearable. I played ShadowBane for like 4 months, and the game was fun as hell, but tech problems and the lag really killed it.
Basically what anyone needs to do is take FFXI and dont do anything like it. worst-game-ever.
I guarantee there will be lots more than three servers. Battle.net is just a matchmaking service, this game will require many more servers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rumpy
I read about 2,000-3,000 people per server playing at any given time... not sure how many total players a server would have. But expect lots.
As for continents, I don't know how big they are, but I'm sure every server will have both continents on them, and servers of course won't connect to other ones.
Big. There are two continents to start with, and then the huge areas of the Maelstrom and Northrend are likely going to be saved for expansions down the line.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rumpy
Each continent is divided into 'zones' or 'regions'. An example, if you start a Dwarf, you'll begin on the continent of Azeroth in the region of Dun Morogh. Should you decide you've outgrown the area, or you simply want to explore, you can trek due east, pass through some mountain tunnels, and emerge in the Loch Modan. Or, you could head into Ironforge (the dwarven capital city), and take a Gryphon ride to Stormwind (the human capital city to the south), giving you quick access to other regions to explore. As you explore the land, you'll discover new Gryphon flight routes that will allow you to quickly get from one place to another.
There are many regions per continent, and all of them are large, impressive looking, and highly detailed. They're also packed with stuff to do - ore and herbs out in the wilds to gather for tradeskills, camps of creatures or wandering monsters to hunt, miniature caves and dungeons, underwater stuff (and creatures, and treasure), small towns with trainers and vendors, and lots and lots and lots of really beautiful scenery. Then there are the quests... I've been doing quests every minute that I've been playing, and that shows no signs of stopping any time soon (and I get the impression that it's not supposed to stop - you can quest your way up to the max level, doing whatever quests interest you).
Some of the clarifications people have posted make a lot more sense, and the new screenshots are very impressive. I wish we knew a more firm date.
While this was posted in the Matchmaking forum for WoW,
I'd still like to take a moment to say "fuck you" to ninjas for getting in. Now I wait here and rot while he says "It's so beautful!" over and over. Preview writing prude.Quote:
Originally Posted by omfgninjas
c'mon you know theres never firm dates with blizzard ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Yoshi
I dont see what this game has that Star Wars Galaxies doesn't. In fact, it seems like it doesn't have as much as SWG, and by the time Jump to Lightspeed comes out, it will in fact have a lot less.
:( Thanks. I had almost forgotten about WoW until I saw the post again. Back to sulking about missing the beta.
I downloaded the 14 day trial to mess around and see if the game is any different.Quote:
Originally Posted by diffusionx
Early battle is, well, seemingly the same as always. I haven't tried crafting but I assume it's still *clickclick click click click click clickclickclick click clickclick click click click click clickclickclick click clickclick click click click click clickclickclick click clickclick click click click click clickclickclick click clickclick click click click click clickclickclick click clickclick click click click click clickclickclick click* :wtf:
If JtL is XvT with a new batch of "ready to die" rookie pilots then I'm in 100%. I'll be the guy in the T/I destroying everyone. If it requires too much time actually playing SWG to get to the XvT portion I might as well forget it.
Maybe MMORPGs just aren't for me anymore. After EQ nothing else seems worth playing and EQ itself is too horribly flawed to even consider.
But I still want to play WoW. Why? I don't know.
You're going to be disappointed then.
It's still a fucking beautiful game. Eat it, Rumpy.
I didnt play Star Wars Galaxies at launch so I dont know, but from what I read they basically added a lot of the stuff they should've added in the beginning: player cities, vehicles, etc. Within a week they're gonna drop in the revamped Jedi system, and so forth. The early game is, I imagine, unchanged from the beginning.
But if you don't like the combat and stuff from SWG I doubt you're gonna like World of Warcraft that much more. The games seem really similar. So yea maybe MMOs arent for you. They're both better than EverQuest, thats for sure (theyre both more like UO than EQ, anyway).
And WoW will be different... how?Quote:
Originally Posted by Six
Will somehow battle and crafting not be click click click?
Like Diff, I haven't read anything that really makes this game stand out among ones already out there, except the fact it's from Blizzard and looks nice.
It's the most beautiful clicking you'll ever do.
From the looks of it, WoW will actually have content.
SWG didn't. I don't know if it does now, but when I played (which was for a good 3 months), there was a horrible lack of static content to enjoy. You could just run around in the empty desert and shoot stuff, or run around a city. There weren't any cool dungeons to explore, just lots and lots of empty space.
Apparently you just didn't know where to look.Quote:
Originally Posted by FirstBlood
I've played for maybe a week, and have found about 3-4 rather large dungeons / locales on Tattooine alone, and I know of a few more but just haven't checked it out.
You know. They should make a MMORPG with battles similar in setup to Chrono Trigger, with visible enemies that attack and force a separate battle sequence in a turn based style (not the fake real-time of most MMORPGS). Of course you'd have to work through grouping and aggro and assistance from outside parties and all kinds of other crap but it might make for an interesting game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Roufuss
And I don't know how WoW might or might not be different. I just know EQ had *something* that made me want to play for almost 3 years. And like any street junkie I just want that old EQ feeling back, that original high of my virgin MMORPG experience. I know I'll never find it, but that doesn't stop me from looking.
And from what I can see WoW does look mighty nice.
I really like how WOW's environments are always changing. Just run 3 minutes in one direction, and it's a totally different setting. It keeps things fresh, and just seeing what's out there is fun.
This was back in september. The only thing on Tatooine that even came close to a dungeon was the Tusken camp. It was the only thing for our PA to do out there, beside running around in a group looking for feral banthas.Quote:
Originally Posted by Roufuss
This happened last time, you got into FT and then they took me. It's not over yet! They better fucking let me in.Quote:
Originally Posted by omfgninjas
They're right. I had more fun in my day of playing World of Warcraft then I had in months of playing SWG or FFXI.
It's all about hand-crafted content.
And yes, I've played SWG recently (last month) and while it's (much) improved, it just does not hold a candle to World of Warcraft (nor does anything else really). You are never bored. There is also something to do (something fun, I should say). Hardly any downtime to speak of, varied everything (enemies, locales, quests, characters), and just plain fun.
The people saying it doesn't do anything new... they're right. At least mostly. But it does everything a thousand times better than any other MMORPG on the market right now.
The game (at least in push 2 of the beta) never felt like a grind, you're always leveling but at the same time doing things you might find yourself doing in a single player RPG... i.e. you're never bored or killing shit just for the sake of leveling (although of course you're free to do that).
Again... not much new here... just lots of things done right.
Edit: No wait, I changed my mind. SWG is better:
http://nagano.trajectori.com/ice_man.wmv
Edit 2: Wait, wait. They're both such good dancing simulators... I can't decide which is better! :\
http://everygamesucks.com/orcdance.wmv
http://www.ileet.org/mantrain.avi
New Trailer: http://gamesdomain.yahoo.com/feature/27505
Mostly showing off a few of the mounts (which is a very cool system I must say, after reading about it).