How do you know the dog's willing? Do you have some sort of translator to prove this?
How do you know the dog's willing? Do you have some sort of translator to prove this?
Well she's not angry about it, I know that much.
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Originally posted by Nick
16-year-olds should be enjoying their friends, discovering new hobbies, and preparing for college. Of course, one could argue that sex would fit the bill in all three cases, but, as I said, it is emotionally loaded. Let them have sex with each other if they must, but keep yourself away if you are an adult. Sex with such an underdeveloped psyche is obscene. Like raping a dog. ^_^
its not like raping if its consentual, and for Richter, just say that in the hypothetical situation of it being ok to have sex with a dog, that they had found a means of understanding whether or not the dog wanted to have sex. Because if you're saying its wrong based on not knowing the animals intent, the solution is to find a way to know the intent.
Ignoring all of that, nick mentioned an underdeveloped psyche.
two things.
1. an adult can have an "underdeveloped psyche".
2. A minor can have a psyche developed.
While there may be extreme ages where either is a probablecertainty for the typical human, if we're judging based on the "psyche", then the conclusion should be "its ok to have sex with a minor if their psyche is properly developed" and not related to age at all.
Indeed, we should realize that being an adult isn't about being informed and being granted privileges because of that. In most cases, It's about being granted privileges, whether you are informed or not.
Let's forget about sex for a moment. This is a question to those who outright dismiss minors. Say you met this girl, she stated she was 18. You get to know her, come to love her and then it happens, you learn she is 17. Do you all of a sudden think of her in a different way purely based on her age?
Obviously there is "too young", but what makes 18 more mature than 17? There is no magic that happens at the age of 18. I've known minors that had a heck of a lot more common sense than some 20 year olds. Age should have nothing to do with it, your "psyche" does not automatically develope the second you turn 18.
i thought i would until i got hit on last Sunday by a "cougar"Quote:
Originally posted by Kenshin
Hmm... here's another question for you all.
Would you sleep with a cougar?
(*for those who don't know, a cougar is a woman who is 35 or older and on the prowl for "young meat")
Im 24, and it was quite scary. to say the least I backed down.
i would never sleep with any girl under 20, more drama than its worth.
First, this crap about "if she's 17, no way, if she's 18, absolutely!" is BS. Just because you go up in age by one year, you aren't automatically mature and responsible. And yes, I know that that sound like the kind of excuse your typical "prey on the young" kind of sex offender gives, but there is also some truth in it. I've know 15-17 year olds who honestly have their stuff together, while I know people over 30 who aren't responsible or mature to any degree. The numeric age one has is meaningless. But, in order for our society to work, we have to decide on points when we expect people to be able to handle certain new responsibilities. Still, doesn't mean that those numbers really are worth anything.
If we're being honest here, I'll say straight out - I've seen some 15-16 year old girls who full freakin' incredible. Hell, there was this girl around that age who came into my place of work last week that had a body on her that a lot of 20+ girls I know would kill for. And, at that lower, primal instict level, part of you says, "Damn, I'd love to hit that." And I don't think there is anything wrong with being able to appreciate the beauty of a girl who is any age. When I was 16, I found girls my age attractive for various reasons, and I also found girls much older than I attractive for other reasons. Do I suddenly lose the ability to find younger girls attractive because I get older?
The major factor comes in from what you DO with that attraction. If you just look, but don't touch, I see no problem with that. As well, I don't think you can just make the blanket statement that ALL 16 year old girls aren't mature enough to have sex.
Would I HAVE sex with one, though, is the question. I think back to my own life, and how I've matured over time. I wasn't in a place to truly be able to fully deal with sex when I was 16. Hell, I still can't believe some of the mistakes I've made at 18, or 21, or even 25. I've only had sex - full on intercourse - with two girls, and it has only been two because those were two girls who meant a great deal to me. I take sex very seriously, and don't see it as something to just have lightly. At the same time, though, I HAVE made mistakes in what I did with other girls to lesser levels. Well, not mistakes per say, but I don't know that I would do again some of the things I did before. So, when I think about that, it becomes real hard to believe that I could be totally cool with myself engaging in a sexual relationship with a girl of that age range.
My personal preference, though, just in the way of girls in general, has ALWAYS been that I seem to like girls who are either younger or older than me, with less interest in girls my same age. During high school, my girlsfriends were either around two years younger than I, or one year oldedr than I. Also, around the age of 15, I was seriously enamoured with a 27 year old girl who I was good friends with. Even to this day I still have the "older woman" fetish, and one of the girls over in Japan I am most interested in happens to be 22.
So, that's my $.02 on the matter.
16/17 hell i'll do it
Only if I was in love with said minor.
I don't believe in loveless sex...
Which is funny, because I don't believe in sexless love...Quote:
Originally posted by phoenix angel wing
Only if I was in love with said minor.
I don't believe in loveless sex...
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Only if I was in love with said minor.
I don't believe in loveless sex...
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Originally posted by shidoshi
Which is funny, because I don't believe in sexless love...
I keep repeating this in my mind and I still can't comprehend what that comment means...
-damn and I haven't even been drinking...hmm retardedness is setting in at an all time high!!
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