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Vegeta
http://www.northarc.com/images/dballz/pssjveg.jpg
vs
Wolverine
http://home.utm.utoronto.ca/~jangi/wolverine.jpg
Who will wins?
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Vegeta
http://www.northarc.com/images/dballz/pssjveg.jpg
vs
Wolverine
http://home.utm.utoronto.ca/~jangi/wolverine.jpg
Who will wins?
:D
Ghost?
worst poll ever
This has taken over the burp thread for my favorite thread ever.
Depends. what part of the show, and is it an air battle?
This is the best thread I have ever read in the history of TNL.
I'm going to have to go with Vegeta, since at even 1/4 of his full strength he can blow up an entire planet, let alone an annoying little midget from horrid Marvel comics.
Thats what I was thinking, he could just fly above him and melt his flesh off with one of his many energy attacksQuote:
Originally Posted by Mzo
I just hope Vegeta has his bad higher pitched American dub voice in this battle. That voice kicks ass just for how bad it is. ^^
Back to Gamefaqs!
Took the words right out of my mouth.Quote:
Originally Posted by Icepick
Either that or Shoryuken.com
:lol:
The real question is...who has the best hair!!!
Me, oh, and Wolvie.
I'd say this is a pretty stupid poll but I voted for Vegeta anyhow. He can move faster then Wolverine can probably see continously, nuff said.
I cannot believe Wolverine is losing.
I can not believe that this thread exists.
Baby Jesus is crying, he says he hates DBZ fanboys.
Same here, I'd much rather have this thread scrapped or kicked into fight club.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brisco Bold
EevilJ=Joke account. No more doubts.
1. worst thread ever
2. Vegeta would win becuase he can fucking blow up planets, dumb fucks.
3. STFU n00b
This thread served to make me take note of Opaque as someone who knows the fucking score.Quote:
Originally Posted by Opaque
Me with a match can beat both Vegeta and Wolverine.
Paper burns.
"I'll crush you like a pancake, and I like my pancakes flat!"
Hell, Vegeta wins for lines like that alone.
That too, but I'm keeping my disbelief on topic.Quote:
Originally Posted by Icepick
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Originally Posted by Kenshin
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YOU ARE CANADIAN! HA!Quote:
Originally Posted by Brisco Bold
Dragon Ball Z sucks so I'm going to have to choose Wolverine by default.
I wouldn't have said this earlier but just because Cartoon Network decided to be the DBZ network I'll agree with Andrew.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrew
Beat me to it... :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Icepick
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Originally Posted by Andrew
Amen. At least Wolives commics had a story. DBZ is an hour of closeups bewtween two peoiples faces as they scream random numbers and once they scream over 1000 their hair turns yellow. then fireballs are thrown at the same time and counter each other until one guys hair gets so yellow that it completely overpowers the other guys poser yellow hair. It's kind of sad considering the original DB was an okay cartoon.
I like the DB and DBZ manga... read the fights at your own pace.
True this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mzo
True this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mzo
Word.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mzo
Toriyama can draw action with the best of 'em. I do really like the DB anime but DBZ was something I watched once and will never suffer through again.
I'm beginning to think chrono trigger should've used another artist.
So you get read to 70 pages of people going nothing but "AYYYYYYYYYYYYYYOOOOOOOOOOOAHHHHHHHHHHH" while they look like they are taking a dump?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mzo
JESUS CHRIST, YOU'RE RIGHT!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Icepick
AHHH!! GET IT OFF, GET IT OFF!!
:chunobi:
If the comics were half as drawn out as the anime, yes. But they aren't, so no.Quote:
Originally Posted by Roufuss
This reminds me, I should really track down that Chrono Trigger anime.
I didn't think they made one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Damian79
Fuck that. I'm tired of Akira Toriyama taking heat because of DBZ. For one thing, I don't really dig the anime, but I the manga is alright, I get it every month in Shonen Jump, so I figured I may as well read it, and it's pretty good. I've been enjoying it. And the original DB is good stuff. You know, Toriyama himself doesn't even understand why DBZ is as popular as it is, heh.Quote:
Originally Posted by voltz
His work on CT was excellent, really memorable stuff, and I wouldn't want it any other way. Same with DQ. DQ8 looks like Toriyama artwork translated seamlessly into 3D from how it appears now, and as far as I'm concerned, that's a good thing.
Oh, and apparently there is some sort of CT OVA, though I haven't seen it, I've seen torrents for it, and it sounds pretty damn weird from what I'm told. Has anyone seen this to confirm?
Yeah, most people don't even realise that he has nothing to do with the series after the Freeza saga.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grave
Though DBZ suffered from production costs more than other cartoons at the time because of it technical detail for its time(IIRC it was made in 1987?), hence the cheap flashbacks and staring scenes.
It would have been interesting to how it would have turned out if they got Naruto level funding these days.
except for creating and drawing the cell and buu seriesQuote:
Yeah, most people don't even realise that he has nothing to do with the series after the Freeza saga.
This is the worst thread on the internet.
i get limp at the penis from it.
I'm not sure what Damian was saying either, I don't know... I was pretty sure Toriyama was on DBZ until the end. All I know is that Toriyama didn't have anything to do with GT, and GT is moderately shitty. I don't know if there's any direct correlation between that, but yeah.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xero_Kaiser
Don't bother. Toriyama has nothing to do with it, it has none of the major characters (except at the VERY END) and it's 20 minutes long.Quote:
Originally Posted by voltz
Also it's shitty. Can't forget that.
Toriyama was only the "artistic advisor" for GT. He wanted to quit after the Freeza Saga. The story for GT was not made by him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grave
Oh, I never knew he declared his desire to quit then. That may explain why the Cell and Buu sagas are a total bore compared to most of DBZ, heh. And yeah, I was aware of his non-involvement for GT, I just never knew he wanted off of DBZ before he actually finished it. I had always imagined he planned it to go the way it did.Quote:
Originally Posted by Damian79
Why? Dammit, WHY? Did someone get killed for this yet?Quote:
Originally Posted by ViciousJazz
DBZ sucks because of all its damn filler, that and it’s the king of "lets drag this out so we can not only make them watch lots of commercials today, they will have to watch every day for the rest of the month to see how the battle ends, and thus see all of those commercials too" syndrom that plagues fight animes.
And whatever was the deal with that ever fight had three guys on the side vibrating and have muscles convolutions in disbelief on how strong someone is? After the 25 episode you would think everyone would have gotten used to being week ass pussies who were not as strong as Gokue and who ever the bad guy of the week is.
Toriyama has a weird sense of humor.Quote:
Originally Posted by IronPlant
OoooOOOOoooHHHHhhh MmmmYYY GOOOooOODDDD!!!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Damian79
His,
His,
His POWER LEVEL
POwe lev
Power Level
IS OFF THE CHARTS
AHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!
*craps on self, vibrates in his own shit*
:o
Are you, Toriyama himself?Quote:
Originally Posted by IronPlant
no, I'm about as white as it gets.Quote:
Originally Posted by Damian79
It's pretty obvious Freeza was the climax of the series and that it was supposed to end there. The entire buildup of DBZ was about Freeza and that's all that was atlked about since the beginning of Z. When Goku escapes off Namek he uses a ship that he had already tried to use and was then shown to be without a doubt destroyed, they then pretended that didn't happen so that there could be a way for Goku to survive. The entire part of his return was pathetically half-assed and obviously made up on the spot with no prior thought whatsoever (Cyber Freeza as a power level reference?).Quote:
Originally Posted by Grave
Heh,.
I remember about 10 or so years ago, when DBZ was teh c00l amongst anime fans because it was never released in NA- obsurity = cool. However, once DBZ became popular in NA, suddenly anime fans (casual and hardcore) began to shit all over it- mostly because its cool to dislike things that are popular (look at eleitists in ANY form- music, gaming, art, etc).
Also Go Go Ackman, and the games based on Go Go Ackman kick some ass.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grave
Also because they were now 10 years older.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zerodash
He's got a beautiful style... I love his backgrounds.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xeno G
Imagine all the filler taken out and the battles far quicker and more violent. That's about right.Quote:
Originally Posted by Roufuss
Honestly, though, your distaste for the series aside... do you really think Wolverine could possibly win in a fight with Vegeta? No. The question wasn't "Which is teh coolest??" Although Vegeta would still win, since I've never seen Wolverine wear a pink, button-down BAD*MAN shirt.
They don't like it because it's a god awful show with childish writing that revolves around me being more powerful than you. Not because it's fun to hate on something that's popular.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zerodash
If Magneto, Apocalypse, Juggernaut and Omega Red can't kill Wolverine, Vegeta has no chance.
I gotta' agree, the manga is quite entertaining. After all, the "Nappa" in my original TNL name was directly from the DBZ Nappa. And even Nappa could beat Wolverine by just pointing in his direction or some crap like that. It wouln't even be close. :D
Yeah, but none of those candy-ass pansies can blow up an entire planet, can they? CAN THEY?Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrew
Wolverine.
He'd use his claws to give Vegeta a haircut, and, with the source of his unneccessary and time-consuming power gone, he'd give 'im a whuppin'. Then he'd smoke a cig and give Scott Summers a prank call to celebrate. Hoo-ray!
Here, now you wont me limp arjue...Quote:
Originally Posted by arjue
http://www.netcore.ca/~prairie/sheep.jpg
You normaly browse TNL with a hard on?Quote:
Originally Posted by arjue
It's the only way to go, really.
If it is hard it can type for me!
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Originally Posted by Icepick
I used to watch Teh DBZ and enjoyed it quite a bit. I agree that the story should have ended after Namek but because of that we got Trunks, who is a cool character. The show really... really shouldn't have been 288 episodes however.
I believe this news.Quote:
Originally Posted by MechDeus
I never saw any of the material this was based on, but I did play some of the SFC games. Awesome stuff.Quote:
Originally Posted by Frogacuda
The Cell Saga is infinitely better than the Frieza saga, however.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr-K
I enjoyed Cell as a villain, but I have to agree that Freeza was the climax. Shit was flying everywhere, the planet was being ripped apart every other second, and the fight seemed to go on FOREVER. They were throwing fireballs the size of moons at one another. Everything else afterward seemed kind of...tame in comparison.Quote:
Originally Posted by Roufuss
I don't know......Wolverine.
0/10.
Exactly. Compare that Freeza and Goku hadn't even really started going at it when the planet was already getting torn into pieces and then we're supposed to believe that stronger characters don't accidently blow up the Earth with every missed or re-directed shot? Um, no.Quote:
Originally Posted by ViciousJazz
The power levels especially made no sense after Freeza. There's some official book that lists what they are after Freeza (which are no longer told in-story because there aren't any sensors left to check what they are) that Funimation added into the English script and the numbers are straight up fucking retarded. Freeza was the most feared being in the entire universe for over a lifetime with a power level of one million and suddenly everyone and their mom is sporting 10+ million after some special training? They didn't even bother trying to half-ass the increments, Buu's most powerful form should probably have been around two million max. Even more evident when you compare how small the number increments are and how big a difference they make during Namek.
I like DBZ, but the way they gave up on so many things after Freeza irks the hell out of me. I also enjoyed a lot of GT, though that enjoyment is hampered by the fact that they started ignoring and breaking explicitly explained laws of existance that were already discussed in DBZ. Way to break continuity, idiots, didn't you even read the source material?
I would really like to take DBZ and condense it and make it cool, and kinda like Sealab...that would be sweet.
I would really like to see a live action movie, or CG movie done with a nice long solid fight in the style of DBZ. I want to see energy thrown, shit blown up, and punches thrown. Lots of them, and fast. I want holes left in bodies, and I want jaws thrown out of socket. I also want this to last for a good 30 menuits. NO Cutting to some random thing on the other side of the planet, and no going to a shot of thier friends crapping on themselves in desbeliefe of how strong their other friends are.
I also want a Warcraft movie. If they could add those two together, and also put ninjas, pirates, midgets and monkies into said movie, it would probably be the best move ever made, by default.
Oh yes, and sex. I want a hot ass elf girl to be naked, and be haveing sex in the movie. I'd even settle for the sex to be all artistic like they do the sex in the highlander movies.
Hey, all my complaints were erased once I saw the Great Saiya Man and Mr. Satan.
Those two characters make the rest of the series worth it.
EDIT: Mr. Satan could beat Wolverine in a fight.
I think they might be the same personQuote:
Originally Posted by Mzo
http://www.theotaku.com/dragonball/tico/14_mrsatan.jpg
wait, no, no they're not...
Wasn't Mr. Satan nothing but a lot of late 70s early 80s wrestling sterotypes?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mzo
Um, Gohan is the Great Saiya Man.
That is the most horrid Mr. Satan picture I have ever seen.
That's the point...
If they ever do a live action DBZ movie Mr. Satan should be the first character cast. Just look at this dude...
http://www.boomspeed.com/gigas2097/Hercule.jpg
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Originally Posted by Xeno G
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Each of the villains I listed WANT Earth. They don't want to destroy it. And I'm pretty sure Magneto and Apocolypse could.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mzo
Exactly. By the time Vegeta was done dying his hair blonde and screaming for 10 minutes Wolverine would have killed him already.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChaoofNee
Yeah, but Vegeta isn't even scratched by an army of tanks and missiles. Wolverine's adamantium claws isn't going to scratch him either.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrew
Assuming he is on the grownd. Wolfie dies if Vegeta flyes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrew
No you're wrong. Adamantium is the strongest element in the universe. It will go through his energy like there is not even any energy and then Vegeta will be dead and you may cry, depending on how you feel about Vegeta.Quote:
Originally Posted by Damian79
And also if there's a building or mountain around though.Quote:
Originally Posted by IronPlant
can Wolfie breath with out air? And can he grow back all his flesh and organs, and brain if every organic part of his body is BURNT OFF IN A PURE WAVE OF ENERGY !?!?!Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrew
Actually, if Wolverine was caught in a blast strong enough to destroy every single cell, he would die. Happened in an alternate future X-men where Colossus throws him at a Sentinal and it ends up frying Wolvie leaving only an adimantium skeleton.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrew
shakey, that red x sure is cool...
Umm. I'm not that familiar with Wolverine...Quote:
Originally Posted by IronPlant
But yes.
I think because they were holding back in those fights. Gohan dosen't have the power to beat Cell, and Goku admitted that he could have trashed Cell if he wanted to but he wanted his kid to step up to the plate. Same with Majin Buu, Goku admits that he could have defeated him as SSJ 3 but that because he won't always be there to save earth, he wanted other people to step up.Quote:
Originally Posted by MechDeus
Remember, Goku only originally died because of his heart attack, he was stronger than all the androids, cell, and original Majin Buu. The time travel was a good gimmick to keep it going, it made alot of sense, even moreso if you've watched the History of Trunks (even though it's only a filler movie).
And in the Buu saga, Kid Buu DID destroy Earth and a few other planets I believe. Only reason that Cell didn't is because a) he was only interrested in becoming the strongest fighter and b) he probably didn't have the power to do it.
Not going by this ridiculous power levels, I think Cell is a bit under Frieza in terms of power, which is why Gohan and company were able to defeat him. Also remember that Vegeta distracted Cell enough for Gohan to take advantage, so technically they won by cheating.
I think that was Age of Apocalypse.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr-K
But Vegeta and Gohan became SS2, all of them trained in the Time Room (whatever it was called), and Trunks killed Freeza in a single hit, so it was shown in a variety of methods that all of them were unequivocally far stronger then they were in the Freeza saga. Even if Goku himself held back it wouldn't matter, especially with Gohan SS2 and Cell using all of their power in a single ki battle that was tearing up an amazingly small portion of the planet considering the energy expended.Quote:
Originally Posted by Roufuss
But he killed him anyway, and using an attack that no one (besides King Kai) knew. :pQuote:
Same with Majin Buu, Goku admits that he could have defeated him as SSJ 3 but that because he won't always be there to save earth, he wanted other people to step up.
It would make sense if they had written the whole thing as the power levels being like that but like I pointed out earlier it was demonstrated that they were all more powerful. So yes, Cell could easily destroy the planet and had to have been stronger then Freeza (If Trunks is stronger then a more powerful Freeza and Cell is stronger then Trunks, then Cell has to be stronger then Freeza).Quote:
And in the Buu saga, Kid Buu DID destroy Earth and a few other planets I believe. Only reason that Cell didn't is because a) he was only interrested in becoming the strongest fighter and b) he probably didn't have the power to do it.
Not going by this ridiculous power levels, I think Cell is a bit under Frieza in terms of power, which is why Gohan and company were able to defeat him.
That just means Gohan wasn't as strong as Cell.Quote:
Also remember that Vegeta distracted Cell enough for Gohan to take advantage, so technically they won by cheating.
Iunno... the androids don't really HAVE power levels, do they? They more absorb energy than anything, which is why these fighters that just exude chi from every pore had trouble fighting them.
Jebus!
This thread is making me want to go back and reread DBZ, although I'd have to read DB first... jebus.
Hyperbolic Time Chamber or some such nonsense. And the Trunks that killed Frieza, didn't he go BACK in time and then a DIFFERENT Trunks showed up, with the long hair? I seem to remember a much weaker Trunks coming back then the one that initially showed up. You also got to remember the part of the planet there were tearing up was far away from any sort of civilization, so it didn't matter. And once they were using all their power, you gotta remember how beat up and bruised they were, focusing all the rest of their ki into that one attack, neither one was at 100%.Quote:
Originally Posted by MechDeus
Well, he killed Kid Buu, I meant the original fat Majin Buu in my first post. Kid Buu only came up because everyone else fucked up so bad Goku had to eventually clean up their mess, as usual.Quote:
.But he killed him anyway, and using an attack that no one (besides King Kai) knew. :p
When it comes to the dubs, they put in alot of shit that was never mentioned in the original japanese version. I think with Cell killing Trunks, Cell got a shot off right through Trunks heart that wasn't guarded, avoided, and was a completely open cheap shot. I think if Trunks blocked that, he would have been ok. And like I said earlier, I think the Trunks that killed Frieza vs the Trunks that gets killed by Cell are from different time periods, but it's been awhile.Quote:
It would make sense if they had written the whole thing as the power levels being like that but like I pointed out earlier it was demonstrated that they were all more powerful. So yes, Cell could easily destroy the planet and had to have been stronger then Freeza (If Trunks is stronger then a more powerful Freeza and Cell is stronger then Trunks, then Cell has to be stronger then Freeza).
Like I said earlier, Gohan wasn't at 100%, neither was Cell. Gohan's kamehameha was also one handed, as well.Quote:
That just means Gohan wasn't as strong as Cell.
dammit.
The Androids have power levels since that's just a way to measure how strong a person or whatever is, but they can recharge their strength at any time because of their chi absorbtion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mzo
The long hair was from the training in the Hyperbolic (his hair grew because he was part human, they were in there for a year). IIRC he was going to leave but didn't when they found the second time machine, although I don't really remember since it's been a long time since I've read/watched that part.Quote:
Originally Posted by Roufuss
It doesn't matter that they were far away from other people, I meant that the land mass surrounding them wasn't taking much of a beating from that output.Quote:
You also got to remember the part of the planet there were tearing up was far away from any sort of civilization, so it didn't matter.
Arguable.Quote:
And once they were using all their power, you gotta remember how beat up and bruised they were, focusing all the rest of their ki into that one attack, neither one was at 100%.
Okay, nevermind then.Quote:
Well, he killed Kid Buu, I meant the original fat Majin Buu in my first post. Kid Buu only came up because everyone else fucked up so bad Goku had to eventually clean up their mess, as usual.
I never found the Cell Games to be all that interesting so I don't fully recall. I watched them when first aired and completely skipped them when I sat down and watched all of DBZ/GT in a row over the course a week around a year ago. I have been skimming them as they show up in Shounen Jump but Cell's not even Perfect yet in that release.Quote:
When it comes to the dubs, they put in alot of shit that was never mentioned in the original japanese version. I think with Cell killing Trunks, Cell got a shot off right through Trunks heart that wasn't guarded, avoided, and was a completely open cheap shot. I think if Trunks blocked that, he would have been ok. And like I said earlier, I think the Trunks that killed Frieza vs the Trunks that gets killed by Cell are from different time periods, but it's been awhile.
It was probably just a really focused blast.Quote:
Originally Posted by MechDeus
IIRC correctly, the planet was exploding ONLY because Frieza threw a huge fireball type deal straight into the center of Namek, thus prompting everything to start erupting WHILE Goku and Frieza were fighting.
Also they probably don't blow up alot during the Cell Games because weren't they not allowed to leave the arena or something such as that?
I'll admit though that pretty much all of the Buu saga was completely stupid, he just seemed like Cell with a slightly different gimmick. While Cell learned moves through absorbing and watching them, Buu learned moves through absorption. Both villains had to absorb to get stronger, however.
They had way too many similarties, I was prettty dis-sastisfied with that arc.
This thread needs more X-Men talk.