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Dude.
http://www.the-nextlevel.com/board/s...ad.php?t=28308
I mean come on man, you started the thing!
Hah! Holy shit, that's Ennio Morricone's "The Trio" from The Good The Bad And The Ugly. That's at least one cool thing in the trailer.
"Buy you've only seen half of the picture".
Yeah, no shit, that's what happens when you split one movie into 2...
I would actually like to watch it, but barring someone paying for me to see it, looks like it's a cable wait situation.
Yeah, seen it last night. Looking good, and glimpses at sword action were satisfying.
It will be weird to hear QT dub Pei Mei character :p
Yeah, because the $4.50 it would cost you to see it at a matinee would break you. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by MVS
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Originally Posted by Xeno G
That's why he's awesome.
"I'm sorry, I over reacted." - Bill
That's fucking awesome. Sorry I bore a bullet in to your brain and hijacked your womb... I was going through a phase.
But I'm ok now! Really! I cannot wait.
No, because paying someone 2 times to see 1 movie is not worth it to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Korly
I'll watch it, I'm just not going to pay to do it.
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:rolleyes:
*Psst* MVS is not really a stingy bastarrd, he really pays for a whole schoolbus of children when he takes them to the movies. He doesn't want to share that info with us.
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Originally Posted by EvilMog007
Why would it be stingy to refuse to pay for something I don't think is worth the price?Quote:
Originally Posted by Will
Keep up the façade my friend, I'm sure it'll pay off in the long run ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by MVS
You can start making sense anytime now.
If that's what you want to believe.
I'm so generous I'll give you one more try to make sense before I move you to belgiumville.
I'll help move it along.
Will: This conversation was over before it even started.
MVS: You got that right. *adds to ignore list*
quick question, somewhat related:
kill bill is being released on dvd this week. does the americian release give the option of playing that one fight scene in color?
I didn't hear about that, but that would be cool. It's weird because I found Kill Bill 1 off Suprnova and there no jap subtitles so I imagine it's jap, but the 88 fight scene is in black and white...weird. Maybe it's teh korian version.
my guess is that we're going to have to wait until one of the special editions is released. the plan is this:
vol 1 dvd
vol 1 special edition dvd (not being released this week)
vol 2 dvd
vol 2 special edition dvd
vol 1 & 2 box set
I work at a video store, so we get to see movies a week early. That scene is not in color, and I would sugest that no one buys this version at all. There is next to nothing in extras, so just wait until the Kill Bill vol 1 & 2 special edition box set.
i suspected as much. looks like it's only a rental for me.
Nope its the US version.Quote:
Originally Posted by DjRocca
I've had it since a week after the movie hit the theater.
My piracy skills > j00
I'm pretty sure the DVDs are going to be like this:
Kill Bill: Volume 1 (it has some extras for Vol. 1 on it)
Kill Bill: Volume 2 (it has some extras for Vol. 2 on it)
Kill Bill: Volumes 1 & 2 (it has more extras for both films. It will be editted to show the movie like Quentin originally wanted it to show as)
Kill Bill: Volumes 1 & 2, Collectors Edition
pixelassassin could offer some insight here. He works at a CD/DVD store.
I've got free tickets to see a preview screening on wednesday night. W00t.
Cool, I will have to wait till Saturday, or maybe even Sunday to see this. I will be renting the vol 1 tomorrow, to show to my wife, since she hasnt seen it yet, and wants to know what happened before vol 2.
Got the soundtrack for Vol 2 last night. Well, while there few good tracks, its sadly not as good as the one for Vol 1 :( Still, I need to watch the movie, to see how the music will work with the scenes.
I still think splitting up the soundtrack was flat-out silly and pointless.
pixelassassin just went to the Canadian premiere of it in downtown Toronto. He said it was good but there's not as much action and that they really should've made it one movie.
Did you pay to see the original version of Star Wars? Did you go see it again when the "special edition" was released?Quote:
Originally Posted by MVS
That part of the movie, IMHO, works better in black and white... so for me, it's all good.Quote:
Originally Posted by usagi
Yeah, I just saw it at a private screening.
It was a great movie.. again but that shouldnt have been 2 movies. The second movie relies a lot on the first to supply your action fill as it doesnt have as much.
The second is much more story driven.
Even the music in the second is the same as the first with exception of a couple songs (which isnt bad, just proving my point).
Overall, great movie. Although.......
Bills death was kinda goofy
Pai Mei rules so much.
Oh BTW. I liked the 'first movie' or first half if you will.... better. (More action)
Well, Honestly first half didnt had all that much action. If you count the action scenes, its pretty much opening fight, than Anime sequence and 88 Gang battle. The only difference is that House of Blue Leaves fight was fairly long affair.
The LOTR movies were really just one long movie when you get down to it. Same with Back to the Future 2 and 3.Quote:
Originally Posted by MVS
However, that's totally besides the point. If you see a movie at nighttime it's approximately 9 dollars. If you see a matinee, it's about 4.50. So, if you see the matinee both times, you're paying the same price as if you went to see only one of them at nighttime.
The bottom line is, if you want to see it, you can afford the 5 fucking dollars, prinicple or no.
On my way to replying what you had to say, I saw the spoiler by accident...Oh well, sounds good and I have my ticket for Friday.Quote:
Originally Posted by pixelassassin
I just watched Kill Bill for the 3rd time. I love this movie. I'm really looking forward to the next one. I've been avoiding all the spoilers so far. So no more of this board for me until I see the movie.
I think one of my favorite scenes in KB v1 is with Uma and Sonni Chiba. I like the fun and serious dialogue and the music fits it damn well.
Kill Bill is one of my favorite movies from the last 5 years.
I rewatched the Vol 1 last night with my wife. I still love it, didnt feel that it was needlessly long or boring, and still love the fight scenes. My wife thought it was a bit too bloody and brutal for her tastes, but she somewhat liked it overall.
Just 2 more days till Saturday.
That and O-Ren's arrival at the HoBL were my favorite parts.Quote:
Originally Posted by EvilMog007
Are there any midnight showings around tonight? How can I find out if there are?
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Originally Posted by Despair
A twenty - thirty minute non-stop fight sequence is a lot of fighting dude.
And :eek: , I just heard on the radio that Kill Bill: Volume 1 sold 2 million copies on its first sales day (Wednesday I guess). Wow... shit that's a lot. And I like it because it's a great movie. :nod:
I'm going to stop using smilies now.
No midnight showings tonight = lame ass
They have showings at 3:00 AM, but not midnight... Fuck that.
I saw Kill Bill last weekend in preparation and I wasnt too impressed. No good dialogue, a shitty story, and mediocre action scenes. That's what happens when you get Hollywood actors to do fighting instead of martial artists, I guess.
It had great cinematography, the fight scenes were all beautifully filmed, but that doesn't make a movie any good. It definitely didn't live up to the hype and felt more like a Tarrantino Masturbation To Kung-Fu Project than anything else. Two and a half stars.
Shame on you if you hyped it. I hope the second one is better.
The LOTR movies also all had a setup, climax, and resolution. They can all stand on their own. The first Kill Bill is incomplete. Compare Matrix to Matrix Reloaded - Fellowship is Matrix, Kill Bill is Reloaded.Quote:
The LOTR movies were really just one long movie when you get down to it.
Finally, one of you fuckers agrees with me. Except I'd give it closer to a star and a half.Quote:
Originally Posted by diffusionx
Good, it shows at least one person here knows what they're talking about.
What I wanna know is, why the hell did they put that anime sequence in? To show the backstory of a character who had like four lines and was killed off an hour later? There was no point to it except pretentious KFC posters can talk about what a genius QT is for integrating anime into his live action film.
If they were to splice 1 and 2 together, and cut out the useless parts (like the anime sequence), it could be a four star movie. But it needs actual good dialogue. Which Im hoping KB2 provides.
Yes, that's exactly what I've been saying about this shitbag movie all along.Quote:
Originally Posted by diffusionx
It's like Tarrantino couldn't bear to part with any of the footage that most other directors would have left on the cutting room floor, and as a result we get two movies where there should have been one. So, we get long, drawn-out scenes and tons of time wasted on crap like Lucy Liu's backstory and yet nothing for Uma Thurman, which made no sense. Why should I give a shit if Uma gets revenge? I know nothing about her character, maybe she deserved to get shot for all I know.
Making you wait until vol. 2 is just weak. Even if it's part of a series a movie should be at least self-contained to a degree.
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Originally Posted by roger ebert
i've only seen the film once, so i'm not sure if i agree with him.
anyway, considering that the entire film is an exercise in style, i don't see why an anime sequence, in particular, would bother you so much.
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oh.
i suck.
Well, Usually you cant expect both phenominal MA performance and good acting ability. Its either one or another. And with this being a Hollywood film, you will get later, not former. Still Thurman performed rather well in her action scenes, and fighting was more entertaining than most of stuff that came from Hollywood in a while.Quote:
Originally Posted by diffusionx
I agree with you that KB is an exercise in style over substance and QT bringing his kung-fu/samurai fantasies to life. But unlike you, I thought it was done nicely.Quote:
It had great cinematography, the fight scenes were all beautifully filmed, but that doesn't make a movie any good. It definitely didn't live up to the hype and felt more like a Tarrantino Masturbation To Kung-Fu Project than anything else.
Plus, Since originally it WAS filmed as ONE movie, true opinion can only be made after viewer watched both halves. Separation in 2 volumes made film uneven, where Vol 1 got more action setpieces and lacked more storytelling and dialogs, and Vol 2 got character development and backstory flashbacks, but much less action.
And I agree with Ebert about his opinion about inclusion of Anime segment, and use of B&W, camerawork and few other details.
Shame on you if you hyped it. I hope the second one is better.
And Dolemite continues his fight against KB :lol:
Its all cool man :p
Im bothered by it because it devoted an awfully large chunk of screen time to a bit character whose whole purpose was to be killed by the vengeful blade of The Bride. I dont like the scene because, yes, it's cool and stylistic but it breaks the flow of the movie something fierce. While I could live with sacrificing the dialogue and the story and the characters (begrudgingly), flow was one of the few things the movie had going for it until that scene.
I dont disagree with the anime sequence in principle but showing O-Ren's backstory was useless. Yes maybe Ebert is right but there's no need to know that O-Ren killed off the guy when he tried to stick his dick into her. They didn't tell us anything about Fox's character, did they?
And Tarantino has proven himself a master of flow, storytelling, characters, and dialogue. Why he decided to throw all that away so he can fellate Eastern kungfu movies for 220 minutes confuses me. You can do both.
I was thinking of you, actually, when I wrote that.Quote:
Shame on you if you hyped it.
I'm sorry... was it supposed to be more than that?Quote:
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Yep. I knew that a moment I read that quote.Quote:
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Have you seen Last Samurai yet? I was hyping that one alot too :p
I disagree with diffx's statements. And I also hate almost all anime I've seen.
What's a KFC poster?
Yes. It's also Tarantino's masturbation ode to old style Westerns as well (in the second one).Quote:
Originally Posted by shidoshi
Now THAT was a good movie.Quote:
Originally Posted by Despair
I can tell you why the anime sequence was in the movie. Because it was really fucking cool. If you can deny that, it comes down to a matter of personal opinion, but otherwise why bitch about it? Seriously, it's not your job to decide what you need to know from the movie. It was a cool sequence, and slightly fleshed out the background of a villain.Quote:
Originally Posted by diffusionx
And most of the problems people bring up about it comes down to the shitty decision that was cutting it into two. It seems like Tarantino-style monologues are going to be all over Volume 2, and people will probably bitch about it having too many of them, because people like to do that apparently. It sucks that the movie is cut in two for now, but the first was an awesome movie (or masturbation session if you like) and the second will probably be great too in all the ways that the first was not. When eventually someone combines them into a "final" cut, I bet it will be even more amazing, and that's unfortunate that it isn't that way now.
And maybe I'm just not a big enough action movie fan, but the fact that Uma or the other actors weren't amazing athletes didn't affect the action scenes at all for me. For me it's all about how they were shot and choreographed, rather than how amazing the feat someone is actually doing. It is a movie after all.
I don't mean to sound like I have Tarantino's wang in my mouth or anything, he raped and pillaged uncountable amounts of already-used music and movie scenarios for the making of the movie, and as far as I'm concerned the less you know about movies the more you'll probably enjoy Kill Bill. But despite this, I just totally disagree with most of the complaints I see thrown at it.
The Kentucky Fried Chicken boards went apeshit about Kill Bill.Quote:
Originally Posted by sunshine
what the fuck?
Why the Kentucky Fried Chicken boards?
(p.s. sorry about the 20 questions-esque posts)
KFC - KungFu Cult Cinema site and message board.
Here: http://www.kfccinema.com/temple/
*sigh* I already explained that I said that the scene was cool and stylistic but it still had no reason to be in the movie other than for the sake of being there. It added nothing to the movie but (and now Im just repeating myself) giving a bit character tons of screen time that would've been better spent on a character that mattered. O-Ren Isshii as a character didnt matter one bit - she could've been anyone. She was just there so Tarantino could suck off Japan for a bit. He would be perfect on TNL, actually.Quote:
Because it was really fucking cool.
But next time actually read what I write, okay? Im not explaining why I didnt like that scene again. Ive already said it 3 times.
As for your next point, whatever. Im talking about #1 as I saw it. If #2 rectifies its flaws then yes #2 will be a good movie.
As for #3, yes the choreography was good (although Im getting tired of seeing Ping-isms in every new fucking movie with kung-fu) but the way the characters moved was dull. It just wasn't that much fun to watch. The cinematography helped somewhat but you can only do so much.
Someone more accomplished with martial arts than Uma Thurman or Lucy Liu would've made the scenes way better. A scene like say the night fight in CTHD was much more fun and much more interesting to watch than the House of Blue Leaves ever will be, just because of the skill of the people doing it.
It's not Uma's fault, though, it's Tarantino's. Like Despair said it was a compromise he decided to make.
And finally, I will say you are wrong. Shitty story + shitty dialogue + weak action scenes + good cinematography != good action movie.
*shakes fist* Up yours Dolemite, you got me for the last time.
That's a lie and I know it.
I read everything you said, but you were acting like you didn't understand what it was there for even though you clearly do. It was entertaining and that's all it was supposed to be. And I don't see how you think O-Ren wasn't a big enough character to warrant it, because it was part of building up to a fight with her. The things you think could have been put in instead will probably show up in Vol 2....Quote:
*sigh* I already explained that I said that the scene was cool and stylistic but it still had no reason to be in the movie other than for the sake of being there. It added nothing to the movie but (and now Im just repeating myself) giving a bit character tons of screen time that would've been better spent on a character that mattered. O-Ren Isshii as a character didnt matter one bit - she could've been anyone. She was just there so Tarantino could suck off Japan for a bit. He would be perfect on TNL, actually.
Well, alright then. I'm just going about the whole thing trying to think about it as one movie cut in two, rather than two seperate ones (while being mad I have to pay for two, admittedly). I'm betting if you take Volume 2 as it's own movie it would benefit from more mindless action scenes.Quote:
As for your next point, whatever. Im talking about #1 as I saw it. If #2 rectifies its flaws then yes #2 will be a good movie.
Some people have speculated that the guy who kills O-ren's father is Bill, based on the rings he's wearing. This may be true and would give the sequence a bit more significance (although I think giving the main enemy of vol. 1 a bit of backstory more than warrants the inclusion of the scene)... if it ever comes up in Vol. 2Quote:
Originally Posted by diffusionx
But it could just be a coincidence.
Having seen the second one. I'll just say that you learn A LOT more about the Bride. A LOT.
That being said, I disagree with diffusionx with pretty much everything you said EXCEPT the volumes do seem incomplete, but alas it wasnt Tarantinos idea to do that it was the studio. Still, it shouldnt have been 2 movies.
But still, what do you mean 'finally someone who knows what they're talking about'.
Do you know what opinion means? Everyones got one. Deal with it. I know a helluva lot about movies and film and just because I enjoy a movie doesn't give you the right to act like a condescending child.
Right, and that's a pretty damned good reason, since it was enjoyable.Quote:
Originally Posted by diffusionx
Would you cut the Pink Elephants out of Dumbo? Or the bar scene from Pee Wee's Big Adventure? I mean alot of classic moments in alot of movies aren't plot-driven, they're just entertaining. Leave it at that.
I rewatched Vol1 last week. I kinda forgot alot of what I liked about the first one. Glad I rewatched it. Opinions still high.
I really don't understand why people were all torn up about the movie being split inot 2 parts. I think it works great. No one bitched about Lord Of the Rings being split up, so why cry foul here? I just picked up vol1 today and am pumped to see vol2 now. And honestly if a scene is cool, who gives a rats ass if it has nothing to do with the direct plot. It was entertaining and badass and is that not the point of watching a movie? Being entertained?
BTW, was anyone else somewhat disappointed with the special featues on vol1? I was really hoping for the huge fight with the crazy 88's to be in color, or at least have it as on option is special features.
http://maddox.xmission.com/c.cgi?u=boiling_bloodQuote:
Do you know what opinion means?
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Bwa-ha-ha. Owned.Quote:
Originally Posted by sunshine
2 tarantino films > 1 tarantino film.
Ebert review of Vol 2. Four stars, and he loved it quite a bit.
Lots of spoilers in the review, so read on your own risk :)
http://www.suntimes.com/output/ebert...s-bill16f.html
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Originally Posted by Despair
I really enjoyed this, but felt it didn't have the inital impact that the first did. What happened to the music in this, it was nowhere near as good as the first? Sure it was a different setting but just not as good IMO.
I never thought Uma Thurman was very attractive til I saw her in the Kill Bill Movies, her face is just beautiful to look at in these films. Nice eyes and lips too, esp sexy with blood smeared on her face, that's a hard look to pull off, but she did it.
Because NO ONE will sit through a 9 hour movie. That's called a mini series.Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkCrow676
Keeping Kill Bill as one movie iis more fesable. What's vol. 2 clock in at anyway? And what are the odds that they'll have the "collectors edition" to be the whole movie on one disc? That'd be pretty cool to just have it play straight through.
I just came back from the movies and all the reviews are right, it is very different from the 1st one, but nonetheless, if you have 2 morcels of a brain, and you have enough integrity to watch the whole movie without complaining, you'll enjoy it. I think people expected this to be Bloodbath x 1'000'000 compared to Kill Bill Volume One, which honestly wouldn't work, having only Bill left on her list [ok budd too].
Movies good, but you'll either love it or hate it, depends who you root for in these kind of movies. Just go watch it, you'll have something to talk about at the office on Monday. ;)
I loved it. I thought the first had cooler action scenes and like has been said, there were less of those in Vol. 2.
Did anyone else notice this -
I could be wrong but it seems to me that there's a nod to Orwell's Nineteen Eighty Four in the movie. Bill's place is numbered 101. In 1984, Room 101 is the torture/interrogation room and in the movie Bill interrogated her in the truth serum scene.
I thought the first movie was "ok". Didn't really like the fights much, and the story was kind of plain, but the easy going pace and off beat humor kept me into it. Plus, I enjoyed the fact that it seemed like the movie was being made just for fun. Like Tarantino was just screwing around, and I tend to like that in principle. If part 2 is much different, then I'll probably see it. I wasn't planning on doing so.
The animated scene seemed to be there to establish Ishii as a badass,and there were several other scenes to that same effect; Her kiddie bodyguard had one to.It didn't interrupt the flow of the film, and I even enjoyed the segue out of it in particular.Anyways, it's just something to define the character before they show up so that they aren't just arbitrary faceless nobodies to get cut-down. The woman that she fought in the beginning seemed to be there just to establish the mood of the film, and the sitcommy circumstances of the fight did an ok job of it, I think. It's not odd or incorrect for different characters to be handled in different manners.
I expected to like 2 more than 1, but I think I liked 1 more. I have all the time in the world for long movies, Seven Samurai and any of the LOTR movies I can take in one sitting. However, I did feel like alot of the scenes in 2 went on too long. I could watch 1, which I love, a few more times before I get bored of it, but I'm not too sure about 2. It felt like not much happened, but it took forever. I enjoyed it, and the final scenes were the most moving out of the movies, but I don't think anyone other than diehard fans will really enjoy it.
Well, I really liked Vol 2. I liked it more than Vol. 1, and I loved Vol. 1. It is a lot different from the first. There's a lot less action, but it's an amazing movie.
I don't agree with this. I think it was a very entertaining movie. If cool action is all someone was looking for though, I can see where they would be disappointed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Green
I wasn't, I expected the film to take it's time with the characters and whatnot. It's just that alot of it I felt wasn't terribly interesting. Certain scenes are so slowly paced, so long to get to the punchline that you feel like something amazing is going to happen...and it doesn't. It felt like a really good 1 hour and some change movie stuck inside a 2 hour one.
Ok, fair enough.Quote:
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I sorta agree with this, but I love movies with badass dialogue and this movie is chock-full of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Green
I never got bored or thought it carried out too long. I loved it, and I think in substance, it's a better movie that Vol. I.
I also think the music was superior to the first.
I have both soundtracks, and I dont agree that vol2 has a better selection. As I posted couple pages ago, it has couple good themes and songs, but overal it subpar to vol 1 selection. Maybe in the movie, it would work better, and I will judge that later today, but as stand alone, it just not as good.Quote:
Originally Posted by bloodyarts
Ok, Just came back from the theater.
What can I say. I loved Vol 1 and I loved Vol 2 :)
As it was said by many before, they are different halves of one whole. V1 concentrated on action and V2 spends time with the characters. You get to know B**** and Bill, and their tragic love/hate story. You also meet Budd, master Pai Mei and little **.
Not to say it lacked action, few scenes it had were very good. The trailer fight was extremely brutal and fun to watch, and a baddass conclusion to boot. And even Bride vs Bill confrontation was handled with cool results.
I am dissapointed tha Bill's swordfight against Michael Jai White got left on the cutting floor :( I was looking forward that. Oh well, I hope it will be on dvd.
As it stands, it still a must see movie, especially if you seem and liked vol 1.
I will post more detailed impressions later tonight :)
Spoiler tag that name... comrade.
Well, That name is not a secret no more, and its revealed in almost every friggin review for Vol 2 :) But I will do that, just for you :)
Wow, i am a fan of the second as well. I can't see myself rewatching it as much, but its got more of a pulp fictionesque feel to it. I like how the first portrayed the characters in a much different light than how they were explained in the second. To that end, it was neat to have 2 movies, but overall, putting them together would have been amazing.
Just got back from Vol 2, and as soon as it finished I went over to the other theater that was showing the 12:30 AM showing to see the last 3/4 of it again. I enjoyed it that much :)
I wasn't expecting the bloodbath showcased in the first one, but then again, in this one Budd, Elle, and Bill didn't exactly come with the small army entourage flanking them that O-Ren did in the first.
The brawl between Uma and Hannah was one of the most visceral I've ever seen. It actually had a surreally realistic quality to it, much as the one between Roddy Piper and that black dude in They Live did, and the way they just pounded the shit out of each other. Also unexpectedly ugly was The Bride plucking Elle's other eyeball out, despite the obvious ironic symbolism of it, I wasn't expecting that.
I had the feeling that Uma's character wouldn't kill all four of the ViPERS and I'm glad to see I was right. I just had a feeling Elle was going to off Bud as soon as they first spoke on the cellphone and leaving Elle to her fate after she blinded her was a cool touch.
And the final scenes between The Bride and Bill were just...incredible. My mouth was just open in shock the whole time, Tarantino managed to turn Bill into possibly the most well-developed, well-rounded, and sympathetic villain I've ever seen, and yet still kept him a menacing force. A good father, once a good lover, and a coldhearted murderer all rolled into one...and David Carradine pulled it off masterfully.
I have to say, although I DID like the final fight between Bill and The Bride, and the classy way it was handled, part of me was kind of disappointed at how brief it was and that they didn't have that moonlit beach duel Bill suggested before that. It's not fun to tease the audience like that, Quentin :(
In the end I really truly loved the film, if Uma and David Carradine don't both receive Academy Award nominations for this flick it will be a sham.
I thought Kill Bill's end was a million times cooler than it would've been had they gone for some large, flashy final fight. Awesome stuff, and, hell, it had the vibrating palm in it.
And the way Bill met his end was also totally badass.
Smile, Talk to Bride a bit, streighten his clothes, and simply walks towards the Moon. You silently count stepts he takes, and when he does 5th. Its silently ends. Classic.
Sure, Action junkie in me wanted a hour long sword battle, but what we got was much cooler.
Vol 2 is 1 one movie this weekend. So far it grossed 25.6 million.
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp..._mo/box_office
I agree. Everyone I went with disagreed...Quote:
I thought Kill Bill's end was a million times cooler than it would've been had they gone for some large, flashy final fight. Awesome stuff, and, hell, it had the vibrating palm in it.
I loved the film. Bill was a great character.
I felt the cinematography was better in the first. The shots of the Bride on the motorcycle, the "Reservoir Dogs" lets go to work walk by O ren and the crazy 88, the long steady cam shots in the House of Blue leaves, and the shot of O-ren and The Bride fighting in a bleak snow-covered garden in the background with the water running in the foreground were perfect.
I still liked Vol 2 though. I just wish I could have seen a bit more of Pei-mai and they hadn’t cut Bill’s fight scene.
This movie was awesome! I loved the old Chinese guy and how he stroked his beard when he was pleased. The action was pretty good, especially the Elle and Bride fight, man that shit was brutal! The end was very classy and the music score was interesting. In reference to the anime segment in the first one, I think I read in an interview with QT that he made that part animated because of the implied pedophile part and the sheer gore. I think he made it animated to make it easier to stomach. I also think that the man in white was Bill. He had the ring and the same sword.
this movie kicked ass, a shame the people in the theater i was in all hated it . :cry:
Kill Bill 2 was everything I hoped the first one would be. It was great. And Pai Mei is the greatest character in movie history.
When Vol. 1 and 2 come out on DVD cut together, Kill Bill will be one of the best movies I've ever seen.
But Diff, both of them are One film ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by diffusionx
lol! Now I'm trying to find friends who haven't seen it yet, just so I could go watch it again. I loved this movie.
Despair, I know... combine the two and it IS brilliant. However, the first one by itself is merely average, while the second one is brilliant. In all honesty, you can combine the two, cut 90% of the stuff from the first movie, and it will still hold together. Kill Bill Vol. 1 was just a few action scenes strung together... KB2 was a huge awesome movie filled with a great story, great QT dialogue, and Pai Mei.Quote:
Originally Posted by Despair
The first movie is just kinda fluff, all of the meat, and I mean all of it (with the exception of her getting the sword) is in #2.
But I will say, #1 seems better now that Ive seen #2... but that anime sequence still has no point.
I, like Stone, am waiting for a mega-DVD with it all spliced together.
Same, although my mom already bought Vol.1 and will most likely get Vol 2, I'm waiting for some big collectors set with the 3'000'000 hours of unseen footage bonus.
I agree with diffx and Stone. The first one was cool but meh, the 2nd was great.
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Originally Posted by diffusionx
What a fucking crazy movie. It was a true to the bone modern day kung fu flick. Only fucking QT could come up and actually make something like that. It sure as fuck seemed like he used every single frame he shot, but there was a ton of amazing moments. The burial was one of the most emotional fucked up things I've ever seen in the theatre. Her god damn will to get revenge is/was astounding, the fight with Hannah was so fucking bad ass, the way the massacre went down was awesome, the whole talk with Bill at the end, the way it ended. And Caradine is the god damn man. And there was some seriously funny parts...the whole Pei scene was a god damn riot, I couldn't believe what I was watching (reminded me of the original Drunken Master where chan is doing inverted sit ups to fill a bucket of water a cup at a time).
There was some awesome music too. I'm definatly going to wait for the super box set.