Arafat Approved Attack on U.S. Convoy

http://menewsline.com/stories/2004/april/04_14_1.html

"Yasser Arafat reportedly approved, in concept, an attack on a U.S. convoy in the Gaza Strip last year that took the lives of three Americans.

Middle East Newsline said Tuesday it was told by "U.S. diplomatic sources" a U.S. investigation into the attack on the convoy in October revealed a clear role by the Palestinian Authority chairman."

Take this article with a grain of salt, but, holy fucking hell, how stupid can you get? Terrorism is terrorism is terrorism.

(The subtitle's a joke, kids.)

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...mideast11.html

Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades, an armed faction of Palestinian President Yasser Arafat's Fatah movement, said yesterday it had killed Tahseen Abu Arkub, 50, of Ramallah in the West Bank, for collaborating with Israeli security forces during a three-year-old Palestinian uprising.

Class.

Something needs to be done about Arafat, you figure that after he got the athletes captured way back in the day and had them killed he would've been numero uno on the terrorists to die list. If the PLO is listed as a terrorist orginization why isn't more action taken against them?

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Class.

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A T's gentlemanly manner is only surpassed by his sartorial elegance. :nod:

Take it with a ton of salt.

As for Gohrons comments, guess who had a visit from a US delegation and Blair himself recently?

None other then the man Reagan declared the loose gun and mad dog of the middle east.

"ROME, April 15 (Reuters) -...Fabrizio Quattrocchi, one of four Italian security guards abducted [in Iraq] earlier this week, was shot dead on Wednesday after Italy refused to bow to the kidnappers' demands that it withdraw its troops from Iraq. Italian Foreign Minister Franco Frattini said a video recording of the killing showed that Quattrocchi was hooded when his kidnappers put a gun to his head. "When the murderers were pointing a pistol at him, this man tried to take off his hood and shouted: 'Now I'm going to show you how an Italian dies'. And they killed him," Frattini said. "He died a hero," he added..."

Pretty badass, four reverse gears or not.

Jeez Stone, you're so stupid... that fucking Uncle Tom Colin Powell is just saying that to appease his massahs.

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"ROME, April 15 (Reuters) -...Fabrizio Quattrocchi, one of four Italian security guards abducted [in Iraq] earlier this week, was shot dead on Wednesday after Italy refused to bow to the kidnappers' demands that it withdraw its troops from Iraq. Italian Foreign Minister Franco Frattini said a video recording of the killing showed that Quattrocchi was hooded when his kidnappers put a gun to his head. "When the murderers were pointing a pistol at him, this man tried to take off his hood and shouted: 'Now I'm going to show you how an Italian dies'. And they killed him," Frattini said. "He died a hero," he added..."

Pretty badass, four reverse gears or not.

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Italy represent!

That's awesome. It sucks that those bastards killed him, but what a badass way to die.

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Originally Posted by diffusionx

Jeez Stone, you're so stupid... that fucking Uncle Tom Colin Powell is just saying that to appease his massahs.

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You forgot to call him a 'fuckwit'.

Not that surprised. This isn't the first time he's approved of "passing a message to the Americans." Arafat is one of those "freedom fighters" that desperately needs to be freed from his miserable earthly confines just like that last Hamas "spiritual leader" was "freed" via 3 missile strikes.

As much as I like and respect Colin Powell, seeing him meet and greet Arafat awhile back made me nauseous. Rudy Giuliani gets my praise for tossing his ass out of the Lincoln Center back in '95 which should've set the standard for future dealings with him.

In other news, Osama Bin Laden hates Halliburton, too... Well, whadda ya know??

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“This war brings billions of dollars to big companies, either to those that manufacture weapons or those who reconstruct Iraq, like Halliburton and its sister companies,” the speaker said. “And from here it becomes clear who benefits from the outbreak of wars and bloodshed: war traders and vampires who administer world politics from behind the curtain.”

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In other news, Osama Bin Laden hates Halliburton, too... Well, whadda ya know??

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Holy crap, really? That comes as such a big surprise! ;)

Nice circle jerk you got goin here guys.

Say Stone, ill be in LA pretty soon.
Wanna meet up for a drink or something?

I'm up for a drink, but I'm in Long Beach. Stone?

When're you going out to LA? I might be in San Diego in a few months.

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Originally Posted by Almaci

Nice circle jerk you got goin here guys.

Say Stone, ill be in LA pretty soon.
Wanna meet up for a drink or something?

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No, dude - look, I actively dislike you. (as much as I could anyone I knew through a messageboard).

We're not just people who share a number of jovial, friendly disagreements over political issues.

No offense, but I think you believe in and support a number of truly stupid, ignorant evil things.

You understand?

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Originally Posted by Gohron

When're you going out to LA? I might be in San Diego in a few months.

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E3

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Originally Posted by Stone

No, dude - look, I actively dislike you. (as much as I could anyone I knew through a messageboard).

We're not just people who share a number of jovial, friendly disagreements over political issues.

No offense, but I think you believe in and support a number of truly stupid, ignorant evil things.

You understand?

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Chicken.

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Originally Posted by Stone

You understand?

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:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Originally Posted by Stone

No, dude - look, I actively dislike you. (as much as I could anyone I knew through a messageboard).

We're not just people who share a number of jovial, friendly disagreements over political issues.

No offense, but I think you believe in and support a number of truly stupid, ignorant evil things.

You understand?

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Weak.

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Originally Posted by sleeveboy

Weak.

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How so? I can think of far better uses of my time than spending it with something I think is a complete moron. (Not that I think Almaci or whatever his name is, since I don't know jack about him.)

Well I dont blame him, after all Stone must be mighty embarresed after his tirades against me when he stated WMDs were discovered and I was a fool when i asked for restrainet and actually awaiting official confirmation, after he ridiculed me when i stated the reasons for the war were fake and built on fake logic and evidence, when I said the US government had no exit plan, no action plan and as underestimating the problems they would face, problems wich they were ill equiped to deal with, when I said the war wasnt over and instead was just beginning etcetera etcetera.

I mean after so much ownage can you blame the guy for not wanting to meet up with me no matter how amiceable I might be(and am, just ask the legions who actually met me) in real life.

Rantisi's Dead

Good riddance.

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Originally Posted by Stone

No offense, but I think you believe in and support a number of truly stupid, ignorant evil things.

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:lol: Looks like you two have something in common after all!

(referring to the above sentiment, not saying that anyone has evil beliefs)

I too think it rather lame.

I clearly butt heads with a TNL personality here and there, *cough*MVS*cough*, but I wouldn't turn down the opportunity to meet him. I don't think people are morons because I disagree with them. That is just ignorance.

Anyway, I have met Almaci and he is as nice a fellow as I've ever met. You could surely do worse for a chum out on the town.

Picking friends based on their political views, or intelligence, or social class, or looks, it all just seems silly to me. How do you expand your horizons or grow as a person by surrounding yourself with carbon-copies of yourself?

You dont.

Wich might be exactly what he wants, continue to live in that bubble believing he is right and everyone who doesnt agree with him is wrong.

A self imposed mental prison if you will with walls designed to keep out all things that could change his narrow beliefs.

Almaci is, for the most part, an ignorant racist. There's a difference between having friends or acquaintances who you disagree with, and attempting to make acquaintances with people who don't seem to deserve friends.

Have some standards.

Do any of you feel as if your horizons have been limited because you don't count any nazis, or KKK members, or unrelentant stalinists amongst your group of friends? No? Good.

There's a difference between not associating with racists and overreacting to political differences of opinion on a message board.

You are doing the latter. Almaci is not a racist.

But hey, not my business.

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Originally Posted by Stone

Almaci is, for the most part, an ignorant racist. There's a difference between having friends or acquaintances who you disagree with, and attempting to make acquaintances with people who don't seem to deserve friends.

Have some standards.

Do any of you feel as if your horizons have been limited because you don't count any nazis, or KKK members, or unrelentant stalinists amongst your group of friends? No? Good.

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Here he is doing what he does best.

Character assasination.
Listing the worst of the worst in a post pertainingt me so that the image remaining with people who read it about me is that im somehow a person as horrible as a nazi, kkk member or whatever.

Bush did it in the buildup to war, in every other sentance when he was talking about Iraq he used the words Al Queda and WMD thus half the people in the US started to believe that Iraq was involved in the 9/11 tragedy.

Subtle smooth propaganda.

It works doesnt it?

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Originally Posted by Almaci

Bush did it in the buildup to war, in every other sentance when he was talking about Iraq he used the words Al Queda and WMD thus half the people in the US started to believe that Iraq was involved in the 9/11 tragedy.

Subtle smooth propaganda.

It works doesnt it?

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It only works on people who aren't that bright.

Wich would mean the majority of the world then?

Im gonna take Stone's side on this one.

If he doesn't like him, he doesn't like him, and that's it. And there's nothing in the TNL TOS that obligates you to hang out with anybody in the forum should they be "in the area". Stone has every right in the world to not want to meet Almaci outside of the TNL board. Just because you guys think he's a nice guy doesn't mean shit.

This isn't about character assassination or anything else stupid, it's about Stone not wanting to meet him and then being asked to explain himself. This is retarded. If he doesn't want to meet you that's the end of it, jackass.

I wouldn't want to meet him IRL, either, but then again I don't really wanna meet anybody on here IRL.

The majority of the world didn't buy it, though. You're giving this administration too much credit. Their PR and propaganda tactics are crude and predictable. They successfully target people who are easily manipulated, but that isn't anything to brag about.

Hey they worked on Stone.

So much so that he attacked me personally several times on this site in the past whenever the things I said and predicted were vindicated.

I think it has less to do with intelligence level and more with the will to believe in things you have been preconditioned in.

Its verry hard to break out of that regardles of intelligence levels and always remember that a surefire way to piss people of is to tell them things wich they KNOW are true.

Or matbe some people refuse to believe the world exists in anything other than black and white.

Did you or did you not refer to Colin Powell as an "Uncle Tom"?

Did you or did you not link to BS articles that would validate your claims?

Why would he want to meet you if all you're going to do is go on and on about how Stone is narrow minded and blah blah blah? So you can do it in person? Sign me up!

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Did you or did you not refer to Colin Powell as an "Uncle Tom"?

Did you or did you not link to BS articles that would validate your claims?

Why would he want to meet you if all you're going to do is go on and on about how Stone is narrow minded and blah blah blah? So you can do it in person? Sign me up!

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Yes I did and for the second no I did not.

I have used a single questionable source in all of the threads we were involved in and said as much.
Even so the info was much more genuine then the shit stone linked to here.

I have always and will continue to make it a point to only use sources wich are generally accepted here as trusthworthy, for a long time even I posted only from what I called stone approved sources(mostly consisting of right wing press or press that ussualy completely conforms to Stone his beliefs and as such I linked to Fox, Jerusalem post, Washington post etcetera).

As for the third who says that that was what i was intending to do?
i enjoyed my online exchanges with Stone and just wanted to meet the guy and see what he was like IRL free from the constraints and focus of political discusion.
I have done so with a lot of people who have/had heated arguments with me before and not a single meeting ended on a negative note.
usually after i got back home we just continued the online fights.

What he is doing here imo is petty and childish, he hates me not for my vieuws i believe but becouse I turned out to be right and like I said before nothing can piss someone of more then KNOWING that what someone else is saying is true.

Oh, I thought he disliked you because you support ignorant and evil things. But then you say he hates you because you're right?

Maybe it's because you are completely one-sided. Oh wait, that's why I don't like you. But then maybe I should talk to the legions of people that like you. LEGIONS

Hehe
Well if he thinks I support ignorant and evil things why doesnt he state the evil and ignorant things I allegedly support?

As for the reason you dont like me, i dunno I dont think im all that one sided and i ussualy dont form an oppinion online unless i can back up what im saying.

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Maybe it's because you are completely one-sided.

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Or maybe it is because he isn't. :chick:

Wel put Damian.

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Or maybe it is because he isn't. :chick:

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except that he is :chunobi: :p

oh an ali, if you are even near pittsburg, im me,i disagree with eveything you stand for, but it could be fun meeting someone from the board. I'm not actually bad when you can understand what i am saying without the typos.

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Or maybe it is because he isn't. :chick:

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except that he is :chunobi: :p

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Originally Posted by diffusionx

Rantisi's Dead

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Counter-Terrorists Win!

Well, I'm sorry Almaci had to come in here and shit all over my point, but I still think it's stupid to shut yourself away from people who disagree with you politically.

My roommate for the past two years was a serious Catholic and hardcore Republican, but we still got along just fine.

But like I said, Stone's a big boy, he can hang out with whoever he wants.

The problem is that Stone takes this internet messageboard thing seriously. I don't have any solid opinions of anyone on here because it's only the internet. I would have no problem meeting like NightWolve, even though we've exchanged some internet barbs. I've never met him in person, and I would have no need to discuss politics around him. If I took to heart a lot of the discussions and arguments we had on here, I'd be in Stone's place, too.

As for a reason why he doesn't want to meet someone in person, he doesn't have to give anything. It's his business. I would hang out with Almaci and if he was a jerk, I'd get up and leave. Let the jerk pay the tab. Heh.

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Oh, I thought he disliked you because you support ignorant and evil things. But then you say he hates you because you're right?

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I think Almaci's online codpiece is humongous. At least, he thinks so. You should take those kind of comments with a grain of salt from anyone, not just him.

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My roommate for the past two years was a serious Catholic and hardcore Republican, but we still got along just fine.

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I think the difference between that situation and Stone's is that he really notices the anti-America/Israel slant in Almaci's posts. I don't meant that in the sense that Almaci hates the US, but he constantly points out what we've done wrong or where we're using a supposedly shoddy excuse, etc. Almaci thinks Stone is brainwashed, but he really does care deeply about what he's saying, so Almaci's stuff is probably very offensive and his attitude doesn't help. It's sort of like if you're black and someone keeps making subtle borderline hints at a pro-slavery feeling then tells you that you're slandering him and that you're jealous of him when you call him on it.

Of course, if Catholics and Republicans believe things you consider immoral and evil and all of that, then I guess that situation is the same.

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I think the difference between that situation and Stone's is that he really notices the anti-America/Israel slant in Almaci's posts. I don't meant that in the sense that Almaci hates the US, but he constantly points out what we've done wrong or where we're using a supposedly shoddy excuse, etc. Almaci thinks Stone is brainwashed, but he really does care deeply about what he's saying, so Almaci's stuff is probably very offensive and his attitude doesn't help. It's sort of like if you're black and someone keeps making subtle borderline hints at a pro-slavery feeling then tells you that you're slandering him and that you're jealous of him when you call him on it.

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But wouldn't you want to know why he has the ideas he has?

I'd buy ali applejuice, because I still owe him that. ^^

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But wouldn't you want to know why he has the ideas he has?

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If he were like that in real life, yeah.

Since it's online, no.

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I'd buy ali applejuice, because I still owe him that. ^^

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Dude we met last year.

Where is my applejuice man, where is it?

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