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My only question would be what purpose does it serve to show the actual coffins? The press is all over the daily casualty lists, so its not like people don't know that anyone is dying. I don't agree with the firing of the lady who did it, however.
Hearing a number on TV or reading it in the papers is one thing. Seeing the coffins, even in pictures, is an entirely different one. The '6 soldiers who died' shouldn't be just a blurb where we say "Aww, that's sad." These were people, people like you and me. Seeing them as equals makes us question what it was they died for, and if their deaths were worth it, or even necessary.
That's why it's important for the military to keep photos like these under wraps, to keep the public from losing the 'war' mentality and realizing the true cost of it.
Whatever the implications, it is a very nice picture.
no it makes perfect sense, what exactly is the problem? The dead are accorded the respect of not having their pictures used frivolously, dont quite see the problem. do you find them showing the pics of the dead princess di tasteful? sometimes people need to respect the dead. besides, these people were not press, they were contractors, what buisness did they have to be snapping photos of this? regardless of how respectful their intentions may have been stated to be, its just their word. i think there is a degree of respect that should go to the dead, its not like we dont know how many are dying, so i dont see the conspiracy, im afraid that its only you, voltz and gozen who will see it in this one.
heh, you never let me down gozen, now we just need voltzQuote:
Originally Posted by g0zen
I don't think these soldiers could be given a higher respect than to be recognized and shown to the people they died protecting. What good does it do to just hear a name or see a smiling outdated photo on the news? No, everyone who believes in this war should have to sit down and see a photo of every coffin being shipped home to the US.
Then and ONLY then can they talk to me about the price of freedom. These people paid it, and by trying to simplify their deaths to a soundbite seems to me to be more disrespectful than any picture of a coffin with a flag over it.
ok slugger, frankly i think that first and foremost its the soldiers who are still there who can talk about the price of freedom, not a bunch of sideliners who spout plattitudes. Did the person who took the photo have prior clearence from the soildier? how about from the family? no,then it is not there place to intrude on their return home, take the pics you want, but only when you ahve heard the wishes of the deceased, unitl then, its not your picture to take.
Those soldiers are still alive, they haven't paid the price yet and I hope they never do. Yet even then, are they allowed to say they no longer believe in the cause and want to go home? Or say how they might really feel about the situation there? No. Just as in this case, the military keeps them under the thumb.
As to who has the 'clearence' to take those photos, I don't see how it's intruding. The photographer clearly did it out of patriotism. She claims to have wanted no fee for the pictures, nor was she hired to take them as part of an anti-war protest. She did it only to honor the memories of those whose picture she took. Plus, I don't see the families, or anyone close to the soldiers who might have known what they'd have wanted coming out against the photographer.
Only the military is raising a fuss over this, and I don't think it's for altruistic reasons. You obviously, disagree.
clearly we disagree, you trust the individual far more than i do, those pics would likely be worth quite a bit of money to the right idealogues. Lets just say i have far less faith in humanity than you do.Quote:
Originally Posted by g0zen
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Originally Posted by Error
A picture says a thousand words.
People dont care until they see.