Doom III (Xbox) Official Thread

Should be a bunch of new information (and hopefully an Xbox playable demo!) at E3, so what the hell - let this be the place for new information regarding the Xbox version of Doom III.

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There was an article posted on Eurogamer a couple days ago (http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=55312) that claims to confirm no split-screen content in the XB version - all multiplayer will be on Xbox Live, including the exclusive co-op mode. No mention of system-link, but seems like a good bet.

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Following yesterday's revelation that Doom III would be playable co-operatively over Xbox Live, our sources at Activision's Californian press event have confirmed that there will be no split-screen options in Vicarious Visions' forthcoming Xbox adaptation, and shed some light on other aspects of the presentation.

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John Carmack is quoted as saying the game is "really close" to shipping.

The XB version is being handled by Vicarious Visions, who plans to ship very close to the PC release. They've found a couple backdoor hacks on the Xbox allowing them to cut corners in the rendering process without losing much resolution or detail, and have also said they're using a context-sensitive control scheme for the thumbsticks. Oh, they also say Doom III pushes the Xbox to the limit.

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Anyways, the game's supposed to ship "when it's finished" but common theory is September/October 2004.

http://www.overgame.com/img_bd/2516/s_045458.jpg

Of course, the XB version won't look as good as the PC, won't control as well, etc etc, but it still looks and sounds stunning, and I can't wait to play it. I'm betting it will be a very very nice Live experience as well.

http://games.kikizo.com/media/doom3/d3_07b.jpg

New screens from gamespot

Killing demons with a chainsaw is cool.

Definitely looks slick. Looks like I need to upgrade my RAM this summer..

I prefer console controls to PC controls, so whatever...

The game looks insanely nice. I am bummed a bit that there isn't going to be a split-screen option, especially for co-op, but I'll live. It's one of the first games I'll put my hands on when I get onto the show floor in LA, while the rest of you are at home like suckers! :lol:

Gamespot just put up some screenshots of the Xbox version.

http://www.gamespot.com/xbox/action/...reenindex.html

Online co-op is typically a great feature. I like playing games while reclining in front of a television anyway, but damn if that [no co-op] isn't a bit of a slap to the PC community. Fall '04 is looking to be a real wallet-buster.

I played through Doom and Doom 2 in co-op mode back when they were released. It was great.

More FPSs need a co-op mode.

there WILL be co-op.....just thru Live. the day MoH gets co-op ill be happy.

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a context-sensitive control scheme for the thumbsticks

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That scares me. Not that I'll be picking this up for Xbox for any reason besides Live co-op and will probably wait for a price drop unless someone just gives me $50 for no reason when I'm standing in front of a copy, but still.

Those shots are kinda ugly, if you ask me...

I mean, take away the lighting and you're left with something that looks worse than Quake 3.

http://tenebrae.sourceforge.net/shots8/quake00021.jpg

http://www.gamespot.com/xbox/action/...ns.html?page=7

Not the biggest graphical leap in the world.

I hear ya, Mech. How Vicarious describes it sounds kind of complicated. For example, if you're in combat, the thumbsticks will slow down when targeting much like XB Halo does. If you're exploring, you'll have more freedom of movement/control sensitivity with sneaking/leaning - I suppose the idea is you won't be sneaking if you're in the middle of a firefight. They said it'll happen on the fly, and be barely noticeable by the player.

I don't think it'll be a big deal, but yeah, it is a possible concern.

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Originally Posted by Tain

I mean, take away the lighting and you're left with something that looks worse than Quake 3.

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Nothing hurts a system quite like multiple light sources. Just saying. Hell, you should see the difference in performance that my system has with the Doom III beta just by turning the flashlight off and on.

Also, that Q3 shot looks so much better because it's in a higher resolution. Hence why a lot of us are getting the PC version, and trust me, it does look better then Q3.

That's a Quake 1 shot (Tenebrae). It doesn't really look better, but it's just so close because of nothing but the lighting.

The shots surprised me more than anything else. The game isn't ugly on a whole or anything, and I'm sure that the PC version doesn't have such simple geometry or low-res textures; those shots just made me realize how far ahead PCs are getting, I guess.

Those XBOX screens are horrible compared to the PC version. Like wow.

It's like the difference between the PS2 and PS1 versions of Tony Hawk or Madden.

Some of those shots aren't that bad considering the limitations of Xbox. Some of them look like shit, too. I'm not sure what to make of it.

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Originally Posted by Tain

That's a Quake 1 shot (Tenebrae).

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Tenebrae gave me some of the worst framerates I've ever had on my system, that thing eats resources like nothing else. Doom III runs a million times better on my box then Tenebrae does.

I'm not sure if I like the enemy selection as much, it looks like they threw resident evil and silent hill together and got rid of what they had originally.

Those spiders with the big brains and plasma guns were teh shit back in the day.

Yeah, it doesn't even look like Doom anymore. They should have called it something else.

You guys are jumping to conclusions regarding the monsters too much. The only things that look lame are the tentacle seargents. Were also supposed to have seen only a handful of the demons and we still haven't seen the uber guys like the Cyberdemon and whanot. And don't tell me the Revenant doesn't look badass.

Nonetheless, PC all the way.

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Originally Posted by Chojin

And don't tell me the Revenant doesn't look badass.

Nonetheless, PC all the way.

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Not only does the Revenant not look badass, it looks like something out of a Disney cgi movie. I like the rest of the enemies though, and am looking forward to this game more than probably any other this year.

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Originally Posted by Doug Branches

Not only does the Revenant not look badass, it looks like something out of a Disney cgi movie. I like the rest of the enemies though, and am looking forward to this game more than probably any other this year.

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Well I don't recall Disney making any CGI movies yet but whats wrong with the Revenant? Unless you hated the orginal design, he looks like a graphically updated version of the original. Hopefully they keep his *thwack* punching sound effects.

I dunno he just doesn't look right. Maybe it's the illuminated eyes or something it just looks too cartoony to me.

doug.....just stop it. this game will be good :D

I can't wait to get this for the Xbox. The screens look great.

Gamespot Pre-E3 impressions

I'm happy that the gameplay appears to be slower-paced than most run-and-gun affairs. Hopefully that means the combat will be less twitchy and more tactical, and will allow the tension to build to wonderful levels.

Should be hands-on for the public at E3, too.

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Originally Posted by Tain

Those shots are kinda ugly, if you ask me...

I mean, take away the lighting and you're left with something that looks worse than Quake 3.

http://tenebrae.sourceforge.net/shots8/quake00021.jpg

http://www.gamespot.com/xbox/action/...ns.html?page=7

Not the biggest graphical leap in the world.

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Take away the polygons and all you're left with is Doom!

Fact is, lighting is a major part of the Doom3 engine.

Dynamic lighting eats up alot of cycles, still worth it to have in a game. Splinter Cell would lose 90% of it's charm without it. It'll be more commonly abused in the next generation of consoles I'm sure.

SPOILER: Boss of DOOM 3 is Bambis mom

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Originally Posted by diffusionx

Take away the polygons and all you're left with is Doom!

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If that were true, Doom 3 could be a good game.

As it is, it looks like it has as much personality as Unreal did. I think Doom 3 will suck. Wait for HL2 instead.

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Originally Posted by Mzo

Doom 3 will be great!

As it is, it looks like it has as much personality as Unreal did. I think I suck. Wait for Duke Nukem Forever instead.

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You're just mad because I'm right.

There's no question I'm looking more forward to HL2. But Doom 3 looks good too.

For the record, Doom 64 rocked the hizzy.

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Originally Posted by Mzo

If that were true, Doom 3 could be a good game.

As it is, it looks like it has as much personality as Unreal did. I think Doom 3 will suck. Wait for HL2 instead.

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True. But you know Doom 3 will get crazy high reviews. Ten years later, editors of the same magazine will feature the game in their "What were we thinking?" article.

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Originally Posted by Mzo

If that were true, Doom 3 could be a good game.

As it is, it looks like it has as much personality as Unreal did. I think Doom 3 will suck. Wait for HL2 instead.

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In a way that's how I'm feeling, if we're not gonna be blasting back the hords of hades by the truckload, they may as well rename it Quake 4 so it makes sense.

Too late, Quake 4 is already in development and in fact uses the Doom 3 engine.

Quake side story? :sweat:

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Originally Posted by Brisco Bold

True. But you know Doom 3 will get crazy high reviews. Ten years later, editors of the same magazine will feature the game in their "What were we thinking?" article.

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I doubt it. Doom 3 is going more for tension and mood this time around and in that regard I feel it's beaten everything we've seen for HL2. The cool stuff for HL2 is all based on the physics and scripted events (which isn't a bad thing, mind you, just a different aim).

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Originally Posted by voltz

In a way that's how I'm feeling, if we're not gonna be blasting back the hords of hades by the truckload, they may as well rename it Quake 4 so it makes sense.

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But Quake has taken over the "fast kill everything" id main franchise, if they made two games that had basically the same gameplay with different graphics they'd just be competing with themselves. Doom being horror-based gives a totally different feel then most FPS' out (what was the last one like that, Undying?), I look to Quake for what Doom once gave.

Yeah, I know it's against the series, but I still think Doom 3 will be fun.

Too bad Id isn't making Quake 4. Raven Software is (Soldier of Fortune). Yes it is based on the Doom 3 engine though.

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Originally Posted by Jeremy

I can't wait to get this for the Xbox. The screens look great.

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This man is the missing link that makes the PC and Xbox versions equal... except for the shit controls on the Xbox of course.