Just because a girl wanna dress fancy and stand on a street corner near some whores you automatically think she's hookin'?Quote:
Originally Posted by g0zen
Welcome to life as a libertarian, Gohron.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gohron
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Just because a girl wanna dress fancy and stand on a street corner near some whores you automatically think she's hookin'?Quote:
Originally Posted by g0zen
Welcome to life as a libertarian, Gohron.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gohron
http://the-nextlevel.com/board/attac...1&d=1178399577Quote:
Originally Posted by Almaci
Your track record is spotless, because it's one big pile of shit that no one was stupid enough to step in.
Personally, I think there needs to be major revisions to the American voting process. It's erratic in terms of technology and methods used in the actual voting, and the popular vote counts for shit. It's amazing that the world's biggest free country can have people lose the presidency when the majority of the voters voted for them. It's bullshit.Quote:
Originally Posted by JefmcC
Electronic voting ftw I guess.
Technology is a problem, but the Electoral College isn't. Being in Puerto Rico, you should be rabidly in favor of the Electoral College. If we ever make the mistake of giving you the right to vote, you'll get much more pull with the Electoral College than you would with a popular vote. People in other small population states have the same benefit. The last thing we need is California deciding every election.Quote:
Originally Posted by Melf
The only reason it would be a "mistake" for you is because we'd be overwhelmingly democratic (ironic, since the Republicans are the ones most in favor of granting statehood).
That's more American irony for you. The same people who are trying to "bring" liberty and freedom to people in a region that don't want us there have no problem with 4 million citizens who aren't able to vote for the president or have voting representation in Congress.
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Majority rules is a mistake, period.Quote:
Originally Posted by Melf
Having 3 or 4 states deciding elections (Fla, NY, CA, Texas) because more people live there isn't an answer. It's also how guys like Hitler came to power. The electoral college is fine and there's a reason the founding fathers drew up the government this way. And quit harping about your lack of voting ability and statehood, the people of PR don't even want it.
("The view of the continuance of the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico is the most popular position with 69.4% of US Puerto Ricans support. Voters cast a 48.6% decision in favor of remaining a commonwealth of the United States. Of the commonwealth proponents 71.4% are first generation Americans, 24% are second generation, and 4.5% are third generation. The political ideologies of commonwealth proponents are 27% liberal, 26.5% moderate, and 46.5 conservative. The language ability is as follows: Only English 2%, better in English 26.3%, no difference 25.5%, better in Spanish 38.1% and only in Spanish 8.1% .")
Lol, that's so wrong it's not funny. The majority of Puerto Ricans want to at least be able to vote for president.Quote:
Originally Posted by haohmaru
No wait, this is even more wrong. Commonwealth has never gotten that high a percentage in any of the three plebiscites held here, not even the first in 1967, in which it got 60%. It's been steadily dropping ever since.Quote:
The view of the continuance of the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico is the most popular position with 69.4% of US Puerto Ricans support.
Those numbers say nothing about the stories behind either plebiscite or the current status scene, since the last vote was held a decade ago. Also, those language numbers are wrong too. Here are the most recent and correct ones.Quote:
Voters cast a 48.6% decision in favor of remaining a commonwealth of the United States. Of the commonwealth proponents 71.4% are first generation Americans, 24% are second generation, and 4.5% are third generation. The political ideologies of commonwealth proponents are 27% liberal, 26.5% moderate, and 46.5 conservative. The language ability is as follows: Only English 2%, better in English 26.3%, no difference 25.5%, better in Spanish 38.1% and only in Spanish 8.1% .")
What's most ironic is that the very same political status that Congress repeatedly says is not viable and must be changed, is the same one they always hide behind with the "it's what the people there want" bullshit. The reason people here have voted for commonwealth in the all the plebiscites is because Congress hasn't lifted a finger to sponsor any effort to change the status, and the people here know that nothing will change even if they vote for statehood or independence.
You can't sit there and tell the people "you have to make up your mind about what you want" when you haven't told them what changes you'd accept or even that you'd do anything at all if they did chose.
You can't vote for president without being a state. 50.2% of PR voted against statehood in 1998. Look around and blame your comrades. We're in the United States of America.Quote:
Originally Posted by Melf
It's still not a majority and your national language is Spanish, as voted on by Puerto Ricans again, which isn't acceptable.Quote:
Originally Posted by Melf
Why should Congress lift anything if the majority of the residents of PR don't want to become a state? And why is it their (our) responsibility? PR needs to get their shit together, collectively, first before statehood is even a condsideration and it's obviously something that they haven't wanted as the popular vote proves over the last few decades.Quote:
Originally Posted by Melf
Become a sovereign nation, stay a commonwealth, become a state. The choice is entirely up to the people of PR who have already chosen, many times, over the past 30 years.