Doesn't somewhere have to petition to become a state before they can become one? I may be fuzzy on the rules, but I thought that was required.
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Doesn't somewhere have to petition to become a state before they can become one? I may be fuzzy on the rules, but I thought that was required.
Again, you don't know the joke history behind the 1998 plebiscite, which was entirely concocted in favor of statehood by that party. That's why 50% voted against all the options. It was a trick election that no one wanted to allow to send the wrong message.Quote:
Originally Posted by haohmaru
And even if 100% had voted for statehood, it wouldn't have meant shit, since Congress has repeatedly dragged its feet about supporting any efforts to resolve the status issue or even recognize that any of the three plebiscites were even held.
Um, it wasn't voted on by Puerto Ricans. It's the language they've been speaking since almost 200 years before the U.S. was even founded. And the language issue is really a U.S. cop-out, since no one made any complaints about it when Hawaii became a state. (You do realize that Hawaii voted for statehood in a plebiscite only after Congress had passed the statehood act and Eisenhower signed it into law, not before, like everyone thinks PR should do. Congress acted first). Puerto Ricans don't speak English in the home, but it's the language of business and the courts, and most of them read it and understand it, but don't speak it due to lack of practice. English is one of the official languages here, and considering that virtually half the population wants statehood while the other half wants permanent union with the U.S., the language issue is more of a problem for the ethno-phobes in Congress than it is for the people here.Quote:
It's still not a majority and your national language is Spanish, as voted on by Puerto Ricans again, which isn't acceptable.
How do you know this? Has Congress ever offered statehood to PR? No. Has it ever said "these are the options we will accept, and if you want statehood, then you can have it?" No.Quote:
Why should Congress lift anything if the majority of the residents of PR don't want to become a state? And why is it their (our) responsibility?
Again, you're only looking at some statistics. I've lived here for twenty years and have voted in 2 plebiscites and every general election and primary since 1989. PR doesn't need to get anything together. Congress is the one saying that the commonwealth (which you repeatedly point out is what PR wants) is not acceptable as a permanent solution, but then won't tell us which options are acceptable. How can you expect the people here to decide when no one tells them what they're supposed to choose from?Quote:
PR needs to get their shit together, collectively, first before statehood is even a condsideration and it's obviously something that they haven't wanted as the popular vote proves over the last few decades.
PR is held to the territorial clause in Article IV of the U.S. constitution, which says that Congress, not the local populace, has the final power over the fate of the island. Therefore, it's Congress that has to take action.
No, they've voted in 3 non-binding plebiscites that Congress ignored, for an option that Congress has said is not viable. Worse, Congress wouldn't have done anything about the issue, no matter what the results would have been, because they endorse the vote. It's been that way forever. The actual commonwealth itself is a political limbo authorized by Congress just to shut the people up. Now it's bitching about how it's not a long-term solution, but it doesn't bother to say which options are. In fact, Congress just had public hearings on the issue just two weeks ago, and danced and sang and did nothing.Quote:
Become a sovereign nation, stay a commonwealth, become a state. The choice is entirely up to the people of PR who have already chosen, many times, over the past 30 years.
You can't keep telling people they have to decide their future, when you're the one who has the final decision and won't tell them what their choices are. It's bullshit, plain and simple.
I guarantee you that if Congress authorized a plebiscite that said "statehood, yes or no" PR would vote overwhelmingly for statehood.
Instead of being a retarded right wing shill how about paying me the 2k us$ you owe me for the white betas I shipped you all those years ago Haohmaru?
Its not because I didnt remind you or took action for a couple of years that I forgot about em.
Yeah you made a killing on em and cleaned out on the lil sand niggers expense didnt you?
In the end you still lose because you are YOU and I am not YOU so I come out ahead.
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wow
Dont you go WOW here, you guys bailed his ass out once as well with Cart Mart.Quote:
Originally Posted by bbobb
But having 8 or 10 states decide elections because it's predictable months, in some cases even years, in advance that they'll be the only ones with a close race is better? The electoral college was a good idea 200 years ago, but all it accomplishes today is to rob 'red state' progressives and 'blue state' conservatives of their voice, and as one of the former I want it gone yesterday.Quote:
Originally Posted by haohmaru
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Originally Posted by LordPerrin
QFT as a California Republican or a Tennesee democrat you know that 10.000 of your votes are worth less then a single vote by a Brooklyn jew or a Florida freeloading CANF terrorist Cuban American.
Something to be REALLY proud of...
It was funny when Puerto Rico ran out of money to pay its state employees and they had to close up shop.
Like the Minnesota did in 2005, New Jersey last year, and the U.S. government had to do ten years ago? Yeah, hilarious, especially if you have family members who work for the government. :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Razor Ramon
Doesn't most of the island work for the government?
And NJ didn't run out of money, they were just bitching about the budget. Government buildings were still open. In Puerto Rico, however, almost everything shut down.