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Totally stupid. It's not the man's fault that someone else's thinking led to such a fuss. In my opinion, the person who freaked out about it should be arrested, not the owner of the bag.
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Totally stupid. It's not the man's fault that someone else's thinking led to such a fuss. In my opinion, the person who freaked out about it should be arrested, not the owner of the bag.
Yeah, because you know that sometimes unattended luggage explodes for no good reason.Quote:
"We take these things very seriously and this was a serious security issue. The sentence reflects that and we would reiterate the dangers of leaving luggage unattended."
Seriously. I just dont get it sometimes.
What. The. Fuck. is wrong with this world? God...
Actually, yes. Unattended luggage DOES explode sometimes. How hard do you think it is to put a bomb in a suitcase and then leave it somewhere?
Jailed for packing a teddy bear? :rolleyes:
So what if a bag does explode now and then? One exploding bag doesn't make the hundreds of thousands of non-exploding ones criminal. There's something horribly wrong with the thinking that puts a man in jail for other people's paranoia.
It'd be easy to rag on England over this but I can see it happening here too, all too easily.
James
thats so lame
It is a sign that terrorism is working. The are like no fucking garbage bins at railway stations in Australia anymore.
About as difficult as it would be to drop baked goods from the top of a tall building. But most calm, level-headed individuals don't run from bus shelter to bus shelter shielding their heads from incoming pastry.Quote:
Originally Posted by Error
And why exactly are people leaving their luggage unattended in an airport? Airports have made it very clear for years -- long before 9/11 -- that they do not tolerate that. Arresting the guy, that's new. But leaving luggage unattended in an airport is a well known faux pas.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rhydant
Well please forgive me for not taking all my things to the shitter with me when in a nasty ass airport bathroom, but this is just rediculous. I've seen countless bags left as people go grab something to eat or go to the bathroom, etc. and I never thought "Oh shit, that mother fucker is leaving a bomb." They really took this way to far, and the man is not the one to blame for all the commotion.Quote:
Originally Posted by lithium
No one cares about Austrailia enough to bomb it. 90 percent of the country already looks bombed, so whats the point in wasting perfectly good missles on it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Damian79
Well, ok. Then it's been ridiculous for at least 17 years. Which is how long I've been flying. Why this is suddenly getting a hubbub now, I don't know. Unless people just automatically assume that post 9/11 is when all extreme measures were enacted.Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkCrow676
I blame Bush for this incident in England.
Especially over in England, who have been dealing with terrorism for much longer than the United States have. The IRA were known to use all sorts of object as their delivery systems, from cars....to suit cases. So don't be acting all surprised or shocked that something that people have used in the past would get the police's attention. But I see your point. Afterall, terrorism has been stopped, the war is over. Nobody would dream of trying to attack a major supporter of the war on terror, not at all. They just stick to attacking themselves....and Spain.
Do I agree with him being put in Jail? Not unless there was a pattern of him doing it.
The fact that the guy got a fucking prison term for leaving a bag with a teddy bear, some fruit and clothes in an airport is complete bullshit. Whoever the judge was that sentenced him should be removed from the goddamn bench.
Dammit, it's a fact: the terrorists have completely pussified the world.
What a bunch of bullshit. Welcome to the police state, you necrophobic bitches.
I hear there's a way to put a judge's decision under review, but I don't know how the process works.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dolemite
Nah, blame world governments for wanting a Hitler-style regime.Quote:
Dammit, it's a fact: the terrorists have completely pussified the world.
I can see a fine enacted but a prison term is pretty steep. However it is made PERFECTLY clear not to leave your luggage laying around in the airport about 100 times per hour. It's not like he didn't have good warning. I still don't agree with him being put in jail though.
The circumstances are still a little cloudy. The article said that the man was arriving from Portugal, which could (or, yet again, could not) denote that the man was away for a while, and in result, needed to pack many bags. He could have possibly been in a rush, and had forgotten one of his many bags that he was trying to wrangle.
There are about a billion and one ways to terrorize an airport, let alone the world. They keep adding new security terminals to "save" citizens, yet there are loopholes from the beginning. Example: In the Houston airport (Can't remember if it was G.B. or Hobby), they check baggage for explosive material before it's checked, out in public. This extra bottleneck creates yet another long line, aka, large mass of tightly packed people (it "essed" 6 or so times). Say someone actually did have a bomb with them. When it was being checked by the baggage people, it could be detonated right there, and have taken the lives of so many people just in that general area. Terrorists are creative people. They can think of an infinite amount of ways to kill us, and because of this, the billions being spent on security is only showing them that we're succumbing to their scare-tactics.
But short term results need to be seen, even if they're just totally fabricated and superficial.
The disadvantage to a bipartisan government is that the main political agenda turns into staying in office. Nobody's interested in passing bills and laws that will only take effect after their administration has come and gone. It's pretty simple to see in "the war on drugs." We make a big deal when there's a drug bust.
So, we go after the dealers. What's done is very visual, concrete. The public can SEE results, however ineffectual they are. Nobody in the current administration is interested in majorly investing an investigation into the real problem: Why so many damn drugs are being used, why people feel that they need them, etc. This is a much more subtle approach, one that takes time. The only problem is, nobody wants to do it if everyone's covering their own asses first and foremost.
Anyway, my point is, as ineffectual as these security measures are, they're being done for a reason, not necessarily with the public's safety in mind. They're well aware that anyone with the intent and resources to do something like bomb an airport or some other terrorist act will have a good chance of pulling it off.
I just noticed that the subtitle to this topic is "my tax dollars at work". LOL.
I forgot it took place in England when I posted it. Sue me.Quote:
Originally Posted by diffusionx
It just speaks well of the sheer amount of paranoia and knee-jerkery that is going on today with so many people our age. Anything that goes on, its OMG BUSH'S FAULT, OMG ITS 1984, OMG PATRIOT ACT. Level-headedness is needed, always, and that is one thing that is sadly lacking when it comes to political discussions.
Or it could mean that I forgot it took place in England. There's no denying it's a waste of someone's taxes, if not mine. So I made a mistake. Ride it until you feel satisfied.
Welcome to TNL. May I take your order?Quote:
Originally Posted by diffusionx
This isn't anything new. Members of the opposition party have always blamed the President for anything bad that happens.Quote:
Originally Posted by diffusionx
Edit: Hell, Republicans are still trying to blame everything wrong with the country on Clinton four years later. Just check out some of Yoshi's political posts.
Speaking of presidents, was it Clinton that had the rumor about people he was connected with (like watergate) ended up dead or they vanished? It was like a dozzen people, and all the deaths were really shady. I remember hearing about that but don't remember who it was.
Yeah I remember hearing something about that as well, I think it was an issue of Clinton using mob-style tactics on people who supported him during election and had them eleminated so nobody would have him exposed or anything.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rumpy
I think it more an issue of ridiculous conspiracy theories created by fringe conservative journalists.Quote:
Originally Posted by voltz
I hope it's just that.
Bullshit, aye!
Yup.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dolemite
But the guy doesn't speak English - British airports don't have portuguese announcements, do they?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gohron
It seems like somebody resourceful ought to turn this into an anti-smoking campaign...