Official Tobal 2 English Patched

There is a fan page where a few guys made an English Patch for Tobal 2.

http://home.comcast.net/~hairraiser/Tobal2/

If you want to know how to patch it, you can check the great work they did there.

This is a thread if you are interested in taking your Japanese Tobal 2 and patching it.

http://www.the-nextlevel.com/board/s...692#post716692

I'm sure most of you only played Tobal 1 due to the FF7 demo, and it was a decent game. Tobal 2 improves on everything and is one of, if not, the best PlayStation game ever. If you like fighting RPG's this is one of the best and well worth tracking down.

The 4 shots below are just a sample, I'll throw up some more and maybe some videos later.

Shot 01
Just the opening shot in the Quest mode. Some of the text is a little bit off, but I'm not complaining.

Shot02
Chuji Wu in the Practice Dungeon, using the double back fist to smack a ghoul in the air. Granted, this dungeon does look pretty drab, but that's the exception, not the rule and had I found my Savegame memory card I'd take shots of the better ones.

Shot03
This is the sub menu in the quest mode. You can see that the more you use any limb, the stronger it gets and levels up. You can also sleep, use items/potions and gems (to power up or capture monsters to use).

Shot 04
This is just a shot of Gren Kuts attacking Chuji in the training mode. The sparks are moves similar to Tekken 4's Just Frame Combo or the SPOD in VF. You have 1/60th of a second to hit the combo button to do them. It's easy to know what to do as the menu to the right will flash the button that a move can be linked into. Moves done, damage, etc are there as well.

PM send and item get.

*Torrent should be uploaded tonight, 5-10, on suprnova or tracers site.

That's awesome. Tobal 2 is by far the best fighting game on the PSX... and it'll be really nice to be able to actually understand what the hell is going on in the quest mode.

Groovy, maybe I'll try and snag a copy of Tobal 2, I've always wanted to play it.

I bought it through GameCave before I knew better. Cost damn near 100 bucks and that is far too much for any game.

Well, slightly too much for Tobal 2 anyways.

Worth tracking down.

There is a thread for some guy selling one for 16 bucks on here, but that was back in 2003. Search for Tobal in the thread title and maybe he still has it.

If you are hitting the LA Meeting on Friday, let me know. I'll prepare in advance.

I've paid over $100 for a game, which I could only play for a few weeks before my PSX blew. Not fun, yet I still felt like I got the $100 out of the game. Anyways, I'll definitely do a search, thanks.

The patch is very well done. Without it, I never would have been able to experience the greatness of Tobal 2.

Finally I can read the text in this damn game. It'll be interesting to see what everyone was saying :\

That is if I can dig up my copy of it.

That's awesome, makes me wish I had a copy.

Great! Now we need a patch for the rest of shining force 3.

So what was the reason the game stayed in Japan? Some BS about the original text being encrypted or something? Am I right? I think Square has just been owned in this case.

That reminds that I need to get back at helping translate Policenauts.

I can finally understand Tobal 2?!?!?! SIGN ME UP!!!!!! I played the hell out of the japanese version of this game, without understanding anything (besides what I managed to figure out). I'm totally pumped to play this in english.

Awesome. Thanks.

I really want to pick this up now. I actually loved Tobal 1 myself, and all I hear is how this completely stomps it.

I think i should really get serious about patching the damn game. I got it around the time the patch first came out, and meant to do it, but never did.

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So what was the reason the game stayed in Japan? Some BS about the original text being encrypted or something? Am I right? I think Square has just been owned in this case.

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There really isn't a lot of text in the game.

Square would not release it, nor let another company release it when they tried bring it over.

so you got it working, good to see.

I support the idea of translating PSX games.

Here's hoping somebody will do the Genso Suikogaiden games one of these days.

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Originally Posted by MVS

Square would not release it, nor let another company release it when they tried bring it over.

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I know, but I remember that a Square representive gave some BS excuse about the game's coding for not being able to localize it.

Well, what can they say?

"Nah, it would cost more than we would make on it so we aren't going to release it"

I'd like to try this... but I have no access to Tobal 2 right now, legal or otherwise. However, seeing more translations like this in the future would make me extremely happy. I wonder if that means we might see the DQIV remake in English someday after all. That would truly be excellent, and like Wily said, I'd like to know what the Suikogaiden stuff was all about.

What other PSX games have been patched?

Is there an online list or something of that sorts?

One correction:

Shot 4 gives you frame data, meaning that move has to be done between frames 17-21, which is 1/15th of a second, not 1/60th.

I'm fairly certain that there are a few moves that need 1/60th, though.

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Originally Posted by Criticom

What other PSX games have been patched?

Is there an online list or something of that sorts?

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I patched a copy of Cotton Original some years back, but that's the only other one I know of off the top of my head.

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What other PSX games have been patched?

Is there an online list or something of that sorts?

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I know it's not a PS game, but Langrisser IV has already been patched too.

This was my favorite 3d fighter for the longest time (until VF4) and only a few people I knew played it. The timing on the uber combos is insane. Going through the quest mode and multi-level dungeons was ialmost impossible. About time I get back into this game...

Sending out on Wednesday, cheap USPS no cost, PM if you want to take advantage of my one good deed for the year.

I will try this later.

I'll make a torrent tonight and see if I can get it seeded on suprnova tomorrow.

Played for a few hours last night. The only thing that I can see that is not up to par, is the shadows on the characters. They are really blocky.

Other than that, I'm going to have to work on the Chuji a bit, never did get all his frame combos down.

Shipped them out today, save for one person in Canada and losing Orochi's address.

Should be 3-5 days, give or take.

I expect impressions and thoughts from those of you that play this soon.

Here are a few tips, I've used.

Town Storage:
The first town has:
The house you start in.
A store (pick up/drop items to buy/sell)
A church to save in.
The Mayors House.

One other Buidling, directly across the street from the church.

This building is, so far as I can tell, the only one that you
can leave items in and then pick them up during a loaded game.

Given that you can only hold 10 (or is it 12) Items, this is massively important.

Potions:
Every Dungeon has them, and each dungeon resets them.

Blue might be IronMan in the 1st dungeon, then Sleep in the next.

The only ways to tell are:
Throw unknown ones at an enemy - Risky, give them Muteki and you
are going to die.
Use a "Reveal Potion" - Rare to find, sadly.
Test them on yourself - Hope for the best.

Try to come out of a dungeon with a few potions that you want,
such as: x2 Next Potion and Ironman. I use the x2 when I have
Increase Stamina, really helps out.

You can store your Potions in said building above (I suggest
making a simple map, or lining them up in rows where you know
what each is) take them from there and compare them to the
store to see if there are good potions to buy. It's a good idea
to keep 1 of every kind of Postive Potion in the room for
identification purposes.

Gems:
I don't use them at all. Why?

You will hurt yourself in the long run.

If you use a +15 Kick Gem, you'll kill the enemy faster and level
up a lot slower. Level up without it, then use it at the end, and
you will kill things much faster (helpful since the last dungeon
is like 30 random levels).

Depending on what character you use, make sure to make the gem of a kind that will benifit you. Punches for Chuji, Kicks for Chaco, etc.

Store postive and negative gems in the house and the best negative
one to create (Throw a gem with Points you want onto a gem on the
floor that is of the kind you want to keep) is = Stamina.

Get a -99 one of them, last dungeon toss that fucker around and
you'll see an enemy go from 300 life to 3 instantly (though,
I think they'll lose a bit of Power on each use so it will get progressively less powerful).

Always kill everything in every dungeon, more levels = good.

Mix potions if you like, kind of pointless unless you use a FAQ. Eventually you get a White potion if you do it long enough, or get the right combination. Novel, but not worth the time.

Cook Rotton Meat:
This one, pre-MVS-Internet, I actually found randomly and is a cool little thing in the game.
Use Invisibility Potion, Hold Rotten Meat, run through Enemy's that are still fire balls. It will cook the meat and make it safe to eat.

You can throw it as well, but most enemies won't eat it, so you'll only get blunt Damage.

To Collect Monsters (Capture, if you like) Hit them down to under 5% life (can be trickey to judge) and then throw a Pink Gem at them.

That's about it for now, more when I remember it.

And the nerding begins:

http://gallery.cybertarp.com/albums/...ormal_T001.jpg

Few Potions and a Gem in the Warehouse. This is just before heading
over to Dungeon 1 (after the Practice Dungeon). Didn't find any ID
Potions, so I just equipped the unknown Gems and got fucked with
curses 4/5 times.

http://gallery.cybertarp.com/albums/...ormal_T002.jpg

Entrance to Dungeon 1.

http://gallery.cybertarp.com/albums/...ormal_T003.jpg

Goddamn monkey beat my head in...

http://gallery.cybertarp.com/albums/...ormal_T004.jpg

Hate these birds. Can't Throw or Grab-Kick them, and they jump in with
beak attacks. Bit of overkill using the projectile attack on it.

http://gallery.cybertarp.com/albums/...ormal_T005.jpg

Got De-Cursed and removed Gems. Left Foot attacks mostly, but the
Guard is really low there. Have to bump that up a lot. White Potions are
Decurse and Random Effect.

http://gallery.cybertarp.com/albums/...ormal_T006.jpg

Fucking hate bears. This bastard actually got me down to 1 HP, then
I ran like a bitch and it went up to 2...

http://gallery.cybertarp.com/albums/...ormal_T007.jpg

And before I could Rest up and heal, another goddamn bear rolls in.

http://gallery.cybertarp.com/albums/...ormal_T008.jpg

Chuji Wu Bear and Dino Steaks abound in this one.

Eating meat when your Rest Meter is full gives you more Defense,
Guard on the chart, so, it's best to save them all and then
eat as many as you can in one sitting.

http://gallery.cybertarp.com/albums/...ormal_T009.jpg

Dicking around and picking up things that I know what they are,
I drop them at the start of each level to free up bag space.
10 items in the bag isn't much.

Of course another fucking bear sneaks up on me and before I can
guard he does his Kuma Head Smack shit on me.

I'm pretty sure he KMTFO on this one and made me see stars.

http://gallery.cybertarp.com/albums/...ormal_T010.jpg

1st dungeon has a lot of beasts in it, making for piles of meat. I save them all then eat them to boost Defense up.

http://gallery.cybertarp.com/albums/...ormal_T011.jpg

Gaze Eye's are a pain in the ass. Any attack you do on them will damage them 1 HP for each hit. There's no way in hell I'm hitting this fucker 300 times. Throws do normal damage so at 70 or so per, it's 5 tosses and they die.

http://gallery.cybertarp.com/albums/...ormal_T012.jpg

These guys have the same thing, hits only hit them for 1HP, but a fall seems to damage them. So, using Chuji's B Mid Mid hits for 2 Damage, then a fall of like 12. They never get dizzy on a Grab Shin Kick or Mug Shot, so here I am just puching him in the head over and over for 0 damage but leveling up the punches.

http://gallery.cybertarp.com/albums/...ormal_T013.jpg

8th floor, first boss.

http://gallery.cybertarp.com/albums/...ormal_T014.jpg

Mark The Devil. He has some of Gren's moves and seems to use Cappoera mostly. He's not too dangerous, so a few good combos and he's done.

http://gallery.cybertarp.com/albums/...ormal_T015.jpg

Ate so much meat I put the Defense up to 15, which is excellent for the 1st Dungeon. Right Punches and Left Kicks are high, since I use those mostly.

Red numbers are affects from Gems, but since I have 2 Add Life and 1 Add/1 Curse Minus Stamina, there is nothing shown. Gives me 32 extra HP, I think and evens out the Stamina until I can get a White Potion to remove the curse.

2 Heal Full Potions in upper left corner.
2 Unknown Potions - 1 Unknown Gem Obscured.
Red Gem is +8 or so Fist (to be used at the very end when changed to Kick)
Yellow is 0 Stamina.
Blue is +10 Defense, soon to be equipped.
Pink is +14 Capture, not capturing any monsters this run.
Red is -32 Fist, which I will change to Life and use later on to kill monsters easily.

Damn. That was pretty fuckin' detailed.

I think I already have a save file with all 200+ characters unlocked, but I still want to go through Quest mode to see what it's all about.


(PS. Tobal #2 is the game that got me into imports. The first one I actually owned was Toukon Retsuden 3 but I never would've even bothered with imports if it wasn't for Tobal #2)

Got my CDR yesterday. Thanks, MVS. Have yet to hook up the PS and start playing, but I'll likely get into it tomorrow or maybe tonight if I have time. Question to anyone using the patched Tobal 2 on PS hardware: how's the saving? A corrupt memory card is the last thing I need right now.

MVS, that's an awesome walkthrough. Any plans on putting it on GameFAQs in text-only form?

I'm close to just making a web page on it and completely nerding out.

Dunno about the PS, I just use EPSXE. A burn won't play on my Japanese PS2 and the chipped PS's are in storage somewhere.

Where are the impressions, guys?

Haven't gotten a chance to play mine yet. I get a few days off later this week though and I'm going to delve into it then.

EPSXE? Oh good, I was about to ask about emulator compatibility. How beefy a PC does it take to run this at a decent speed, anyway? My chipped PS1 burned out years ago and I'm not up to speed on PS2 modding yet.

James

i used to run it decent with a p3 600, 512 ram and my tnt2. wasnt the greatest but it worked. just make sure you play from a .iso. reduces loading and a lot of music and cinema problems.

Wow, I've had that patch for sometime now. Actually i just found my pacthed CD couple of minutes ago.


Now is this a patch so you can play it on your psx or pc? Cuz the one i found and i think it was last year, could have been the year before was so i could play it on my psx

Dunno.

My PS2 here is Japanese, and the US one my brother took (doubtful it would play on that). My chipped PS's are in storage as well, I just use EPSXE with a USB-PS2 pad.

Here are my impressions.

MVS, I apologize for the 3 month delay. If anyone wants to send me other free shit, I'll be willing to write about it too.

So yeah:

I actually played this back in May when I recieved it in the mail. There was a scratch on the CDR and the music in the minecart stage skipped a bunch. That was ok. I never planned on playing this against anyone. I still wonder if there are actual endings. Tobal1 had some cheesey crap where some loser king congratulated and leave me jumping for joy or something. Total bullshit. How ironic that Square, who would later become kings in FMV would supply us with this cookie cutter crap. Let's not even touch the irony of Akira Toriyama having his hand in this game.

Anyway, Tobal1 had a dungeon mode where you ran around mazes fighting things and collecting items that helped power you up. I don't really remember the point of the dungeons anymore. I do happen to know that Tobal2 was supposed to make them kick total ass. Whatever you defeated, you could add to an ever growing roster of fighters. Why....you could have up to 200 characters!!!

Ok, 2 hours into this, I can't catch jack balls. Even if I did, who the hell would want to fight as "Grey Mole" and "Golden Frog"? A pokemon master I am not.

I know it would help if I read a FAQ on this but I'm a fond believer that a game shouldn't be so complicated that reading a manual was a necessity. Of course I learned that some items are cursed, you can't go back to higher floors, if you sleep too much you die, If you die you lose everything and "oh shit, you can eat stuff!". Tons of fun...honestly.

I decided the practice dungeon should be enough to give a fair impression of the game so to satisfy my superiors. That said, when one enters a dungeon, you have to run like a mofo to these wells hidden on the floor so you can drop down to the next level. The dungeons are randomly generated so IT'S A TOTALLY DIFFERENT GAME EVERYTIME YOU PLAY!!!

I lost a lot of times which kind of sucks when it's the "practice dungeon". Eventually I realized that equipping gems and eating stuff helped a lot. I think I leveled up but I'm not really to sure about that. What matters though is that I got to the bottom level where I had to fight a boss. That fucker might've been hard but I couldn't really tell. I drank an invincibility potion before fighting him (and got a shitty FMV as a reward!)

After that fight another dungeon became accesible. It's full of bears and these goblin looking things that kicked my ass a bunch of times. What sucks is that I think I'm hooked. Surely this is what huffing glue is like. You huff a bit and feel dizzy but your better judgement says "whoa...stop doing this shit, it'll kill you" but the pro's of huffing say "Oh man, I can't feel my dick!".

Playing Tobal2 is like that.....I think.

So in conclusion, Tobal2 is a very very very very very good free game which I would have happily burned back in 1997 if cheap CD burners and cheap CDR media were available. I may never play Tobal2 against another human being ever but at least I can enjoy it's mundane quest mode where I can rid the world of countless Bears, Frogs, Zombies, Moles and Rats (WHICH YOU TOO CAN PLAY AS!!!!!!!)

actually, i think they just weren't happy with how the first game performed, especially figuring most of its sales were due to the FF7 demo. sad, because the second game was a huge improvement and is, indeed, the best 3D fighter on PS1.

as for not letting another company (WD, apparently) put it out here, it had more to do with prohitively expensive licensing costs rather than a konami style policy against letting another company release their games in the US.

square apparently debated putting it out themselves again when they put out final fantasy chronicles (the second pack with FFIV and CC) but decided against it. pity.

Working Designs was never in the running for this game.

Activision wanted it, but Square simply decided against it at the last minute.

I'll be tryin' this on my Xbox tonight. Hopefully it'll run pretty well.

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Working Designs was never in the running for this game.

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hrm. maybe not at the time, but they definitely looked at it. it's possible, knowing vic, that they weren't in the running, but he was just *talking* about it. licensing it was definitely a topic of at least semi-serious conversation at their offices at one time.

Now to find my old Tobal 2 for PS1....

This game is excellent. Thanks for pointing the patch out.