It's almost here. Who's getting it? Since I don't fully trust NST I'm going to wait for impressions but if it compares to DK '94 it will be on my must-own list.
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It's almost here. Who's getting it? Since I don't fully trust NST I'm going to wait for impressions but if it compares to DK '94 it will be on my must-own list.
I'm trying not to get any new games to save up some money, but I might make an exception for this one.
i'm a mario whore, so i'll get it!
ah man, i just got fired today. i so have to not spend money on games right now... ah fuck it, it's a spiritual sequal to DK94, when is this out?
oh, and NeoZeed, what's up with not having complete faith in NST? they literally have a flawless track record of picking up where other teams left off and doing a great job.
Blue Storm
Pokemon Puzzle League (alright, so not much had to be done here, but they still get credit)
Ridge Racer 64 (ok, so the style wasn't anywhere near as nice as what Namco did with the series, but the gameplay is all there).
It is just like DK 94. But alittle better.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeoZeedeater
It ships on the 24th I think.Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnny Nighttrain
NST doesn't have a bad record or anything(they did make my favorite Bionic Commando) but a game like this is definitely the territory of EAD or R&D1. NST could pull off something great here but I want to make sure before I buy since this somewhat of a new area for them.
I think Im gonna get it, I mean, I reserved it, might as well.
Do I detect some anti-American bias, Neo? Hmm...
Anyway, having missed out on DK '94 I'm definitely looking forward to this.
This game seems good, I ordered it, but I don't think I'm gonna' have the money for it... I'll get it some time.
I'll preorder it today.
Horay!
Yahoo!
No anti-American bias here, just wariness of new teams on old franchises. I'm wary of Paon making DK: King of Swing and they're Japanese. If Capcom was making Doom 3, it would worry me.Quote:
Originally Posted by sleeveboy
yeah, he's worried with good reason. but i mean, NST has handled some EAD games before, and literally improved upon them in every single last way (excluding music).
Was 1080 improved? I only played it briefly but it seemed like the N64 game was better.
Also, I find it kind of funny that I of all TNL'ers would be suspected of an anti-American bias given that I'm an FPS junkie and a fan of so many American games.
yeah, i don't see where people get off accusing you of that one.
anyways, as for 1080, i also didn't spend much time with it. but like, i'd imagine it would be a better game over all. at the very least, some more depth had to have been added to the game.
This game freaking rules...played it at EB.
NST rocks for Bionic Commando GBC alone.
I'll be picking this one up for sure.
If these EGM scores posted here are correct, M vs DK got 7, 7.5, 7.5.
http://www.cloudchaser.com/showthread.php?t=110003
The game is gonna be $24.99 at Best Buy next week, get it for $19.99 with $5 off coupon from gamer's gift card
Yep, already beat me to it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wario64
I'll definately pick it up for 20, EB's price of 30 can lick my nuts.
I'm well aware of that. Hence the intended irony of my post. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by NeoZeedeater
I'm buying it.
What was wrong with the metal slug game for XB?
Can't wait, the game looks really amazing in motion.
I'm going to venture a guess and say it's a 2d run and gun, that while it's awesome, is not innovative and many gamers will get bored of it fast.Quote:
Originally Posted by Damian79
That's not MY opinion, but I'm 90% sure that's what EGM had to say without reading it.
It's a Metal Slug game for XB.Quote:
Originally Posted by Damian79
EGM caters to an audience, you know.
I bet this'll play great, but I don't really like the graphical style from stills, but I haven't seen it in action yet. Heh, had no problem with their console titles, but I had a big issue with the graphics in their Bionic Commando, too.
That aside, it was a hell of a fun game, so I have no reason to doubt this will be. Looking forward to trying it.
You'd be surprised. It does look rather stange/un-Mario-like from stills, and in fact it is pretty un-Mario-like for a 2d game --but that's because his character model and animations are almost exactly like Mario 64's believe it or not, much like how the new Mario sidescroller looks for the DS, but with sprites. It really looks impressive.
I watched the video at the official website now, and it kind of surprised me. The shots didn't seem to illustrate much about how the game plays, it looks pretty varied and fun. Assuming I have a job soon, this'll be one to grab as soon as I can.
The reviews seem to be pretty average so far. 7.0, 7.5, 7.5 from EGM and I think Game Informer gave it a 7 or 7.5.
Game Informer's review, summed up, stated that the reviewer wanted to give it a higher mark, and wanted to call it a classic, but that it was too easy and too short to give it a higher score.
I really like the demo, but with this talk of ease and length, I will saddly decline the purchase. :(
Yea, it's got me real worried.... DK 94 was really simple as well, I think I beat it in a matter of hours.Quote:
Originally Posted by Captain Vegetable
What the holy Hell is a "DK 94?" Is that supposed to be some kind of dyslexic "DK 64?"
DK 94 is the gameboy game that this one is a soul sequel of. It featured the same type of play mechanics, and is a really great game for about 10 bucks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Captain Vegetable
It's full name is "Donkey Kong", but since it came out 1994, alot of people just call it DK 94.
Oh! OK. I've heard bits and pieces about a "remake" or something, so I imagine this DK 94 is what was being talked about. Thanks.
Now I feel bad about that "monkey" comment. :p
Quote:
Originally Posted by Roufuss
Well Donkey Kong '94 was the working title of the original Game Boy version of Donkey Kong before it became plain old Donkey Kong.
Anyway, I'm rather skeptical on MvDK. I'm not too crazy on the use of pre-rendered sprites for Mario and Donkey Kong and I actually would've preferred to had seen Donkey Kong Plus (the enhanced port of DK94 with the level editor). The idea of having DK taking over a toy factory seems rather lame in comparison to the girl-snatching Donkey Kong from days of yore.
The pre-rendered sprites look great. Fear not. ;)
It's that "length" and "ease" crap you should be worrying about.
Yea from what I read, the levels are real standard. Six levels of Mario getting a key and finding a toy, the seventh level is Mario leading the toys, and eighth level is him fighting Donkey Kong, and it's the same through all six worlds.Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnny Undaunted
I've heard though that the level select screen has room for four more hidden worlds, which makes sense because Nintendo said there's more than 80 levels.
I might just get it anyway. I can't seem to get enough of the demo, and I've played the living Hell out of it.
Besides, those clockwork Marios are just so damned cute. ^_^
I'm waiting on a few more reviews.Quote:
Originally Posted by Captain Vegetable
Game Informer said it could be beaten in a matter of hours, and well, that has me worried. Espically since DK 94 really didn't have any replayablility, since once you know the puzzles, well, you pretty much can just breeze through the game in record time.
That 20 bucks is better off going to River City Ransom EX :D
Heh. Speaking about blowing through, I've been playing the demo so much, I can get pretty far before the game resets (it's one of them :( ). I can see me beating it in a few hours, but I don't know. I've been through the demo in record time, but it hasn't gotten old yet, and this is only a fraction of the whole game.
I can definitely see myself having much fun with the game, even if I do run through it easily, I'll be doing it over and over and over again.
But it has been said I'm easy to please. :p
This is what I really wanted:
http://www.the-nextlevel.com/board/s...highlight=kong
hope it's still cool though.
Yeah, it kind of burned me when the Mario vs. Donkey Kong shots came out, and... it wasn't DK+. But I'm hoping for the best.Quote:
Originally Posted by Korly
Well, CV, you could play for score. Sounds like a game you would like to do that for seeing as how the first few (and easiest) levels haven't gotten boring for you.
All this talk of disappointment makes me sad :( I loved the hell out of DK94, and I was hoping we'd at least get its equal with this. But it doesn't seem so... Maybe I'll wait for the next Wrio for my puzzle platform fix.
i don't care if it's short and easy. i care if it's fun. $20 is really not very much even if you have a crappy job (like me). i'm gettin' it.
I saw a blurb about this on EP today and was surprised that the PR rep for Nintendo was talking about the disappointing length. Ahwell, gonna give it a try anyway at the very least.
Too bad River City Ransom EX comes out the same day, and craps all over it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Compass
Well I'm on world 2 now (which looks a lot like the old DK JR game :D ), and so far it's pretty fun. It's not really difficult, nor is it very long (I count 6 worlds x 8 stages/world = 48 stages overall) but it's a pretty good game to play when you've got a bit of time to burn. Graphics kinda resemble KI on SNES in their pre-rendered & pixelated glory.
Actually, cka, there are 18 worlds with 8 stages each. The booklet mentions the extra 6 worlds you get for completing the game, and six more that you "purchase" with the stars you win from getting the high score in any given level.
I was very happy when I read that. I was even more happy when the booklet mentions the difficulty increases exponentially per unlocked section of the game.
Looks like both the length and difficulty problems have been shot in the head. :D
I'm in as far as cka is, and I've been loving it. Only one stage has given me a high score problem (they want freaking 30,000 points on stage 1-5! 30,000!), but I'm really loving the game. The pre-rendered sprites are very clean, and the voices done for Mario are great. He even has his little mumblings from the Superstar Saga, too.
I got that score on that level ;p
Anyway, anyone that says the game is too short really didn't read the manual. I read that too. No way can it be knocked for length. This is why I dislike reviews in general. A lot of the time, they are flat out wrong.
I got the 30,000, too, after I decided not to kill all the Shy Guys with trash cans and actually collect on the hammer multiplyer. I was able to beat the mark by about 5,000 extra points. ;)
Just started playing the game today at the store. Regardless what the reviews say, I am still picking it up. There's a decent amount of unlockable material and the gameplay is a sweet combination derived from previous Mario and DK platform installments.
I wasn't really following the game up until the past two months and was suprised just how fun Mario vs. DK really is. Anyone who's whining about the game being short obviously put the game back on their shelf after beating it. Only the diligent players who go the extra mile will appreciate the rest that's in store for them.
Every GBA fan must pick this up. (I expect a High Score thread for this game to be created shortly).
Probably my favorite thing about this game so far. :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Captain Vegetable
I'm enjoying it. There is one enemy "Sir Shovealot," I believe his name is, who I can't tell what the hell he is excatly, but overall it plays really well.
Kind of funky to see such a nice molding of Super Mario Bros type gameplay infused with Donkey Kong 94, but it works.
I loved DK94, it was so simple, yet so addictive, so I guess this is on my want list for now [still not owning a GBA].
Was DK 94 even released in the States? And if so, for what system? I'd like to get a hold of it if possible.
CV I told you earlier, for the very original Gameboy, under the name Donkey Kong. It should be real cheap, I got my copy for 10 bucks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Captain Vegetable
Despite all my objections, upon hearing of longer gameplay and a harder difficulty, I bought it today for 20 bucks at Best Buy!
It's thirty-freaking-five dollars at GS and EB.
I will be returning my copy and rebuying it at Best Buy.
Is there some kind of weird gift card trick I need to do, or is it the straight up price?
Just so you know, this is Donkey Kong '94.Quote:
Originally Posted by Captain Vegetable
http://www.planetnintendo.com/nindb/dmg/qd/index.shtml
Anybody up to world 5 yet? 5-3 is kickin my ass bigtime. It doesn't seem necessarily hard, but it's difficult to time the switches for the conveyor belts to get the key where you need it. :S
edit: and www.mariovsdk.com has strategy videos up, I learned a thing or two for previous levels although there's nothing up for as far as I'm in yet... :(
Wow, this game is awesome. I'm not very far in, but this is the most fun I've had with a Nintendo game in a long time.
It's 25 dollars on sale, put 20 or so on the Gamer's Gift Card and then just use that to pay for the game. The GGC has a 5 dollar off coupon on the back.Quote:
Originally Posted by Captain Vegetable
Try and look for a cashier who knows what they are doing now... at my Best Buy, most of the standard cashiers know all about the trick now and they don't have to waste time trying to figure out what you're trying to do.
Not to advertise the site in my sig or anything... but if you want replayability, we're most likely gonna be adding the game pretty soon, if it gets a little more support, and someone can verify the names and numbers of stages properly.
As for the game, I'm only on World 2, but already I'm really enjoying it. Getting the high scores is satisfying, learning something new every stage is rewarding, and the levels are pretty innovative, although a little simple.
Don't worry, that'll change in world 4.Quote:
Originally Posted by Adman
And I'd like to add, that the boss in world 5 is a bastard.
So how is everyone finding the game? Is it pretty much the last DK but with better graphics, because I'd be fine with that. A radio station was giving away an SP + Mario Vs Donkey Kong if you were caller number 9. I knew the answer, but as always, the line was busy.
The game is great. You must buy it. MUST!!!
Yeah, buy it. It is great.
Finally picked it up today. I'm up to World 6 now. What the hell is up with all the reviews bitching about the difficulty? It's insanely hard to get a star in the later stages, and since you have to get all of them to unlock another 6 worlds, there's no reason to bitch about length either.
Yet one more example of how professional reviewers are full of shit.
Have fun at the world 6 DK.Quote:
Originally Posted by bbobb
When you beat the first 6 levels, the Expert stages open up, and they unlock based on how many stars you get. For the first four, it is every 9 stars gets you a level. I doubt all 12 levels are like that though, seeing as how that'd be 108 stars.
BTW, Expert levels are freaking hard to complete sometimes, let alone get all the presents in each one. Basically, this game is quite easy to pass the first 6 worlds (although even 6 is hard), but star-ing every level is tough as nails.
Oh yeah...this is one of my GOTYs so far, probably 3rd or 4th.
I'll probably get this game anyway, but I really wanted Donkey Kong Plus to be released. I know this is like the 1,000th time I've mentioned it, but Nintendo (or at least their public relationist) insist that DK Plus and MvDK are different games and that Donkey Kong Plus is still being developed, the chances of it being released are becoming less likely.
Yeah, if you just play the game to 'pass' the levels, you probably won't get that much enjoyment out of it. If you take the time to star every level though, this is one incredible game. It's my #1 GOTY so far.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joust Williams
game of the year? :wtf: i expected it to be good but that good? anyway, i have it but i'm saving it for a bit. i'll start it in july.... 'cause you all cared so much.
Did I mention how mad I am that they used the wrong Donkey Kong?
You got something against the Kong? Why? I've always liked Rare's envisioning of DK, red tie, curly-que hair and all.
Yeah, I think it's crude and unappealing, and I always hated the Country games. But more than that, it's not just a different character design (like early mario vs late mario) he's just a different character entirely. The rare one talks and is supposed to be donkey's grandson or somethign, and it makes no sense for him to go wreak havoc in town and screw with mario. It's just stupid. It's written around one Donkey with the image of the other.Quote:
Originally Posted by Captain Vegetable
I suppose.
You know, I thought I had a little more to say than just "I suppose," but I guess not. :p
lol. i never once even thought about the "character" of kong in dk64. that's irrelevant to me in a game like that. good thing too since everyone knows Rare designs lame characters like nobody's business. but when the scavenging is so sweet... i forget all about how embarrasingly gay all the characters are. (although the little girl kong was cute with her pigtails and squeaks and stuff as she jumped around. forgot about her...).
I like Rare's designs. So shut up! :p
The DK in DK64 was the same DK as in all the Countries. Cranky was his grandfather, and Cranky was also the "original" DK who fought Jump Man, and this was evidenced in some of the lines the character spoke.
For this reason, Frog has a problem with the DK in MvDK because it's not the right Kong, but I'd say since this type of behavior is "in his blood," this Kong is perfectly acceptabe. :p
There it is! I knew I had more to say. ;)
I didn't say anything about DK64. It's not that it's a bad interpretation of the same character. They're distict. One climbs buildings and hassles mario and the other collects bananas and annoys the shit out of me, and they need to not confuse which does which. Dammit.
EDIT: Yeah, what veggie said
I can't get a star in level 2-6... and I'm missing it by a lot, too. Am I missing something, here?
EDIT: NEVERMIND, I DID IT. I don't need you losers' help anyway.
OK! Now I broke the high score in the 2nd DK fight, and I'm not getting a star for it. WTF?
EDIT2: OH, you have to beat the toy level AND the DK level at once to get a star in it. N/m again.
Yeah, I was defending DK64 in another thread and I got mixed up and thought this thread was that one I think. :sweat:Quote:
Originally Posted by Frogacuda
I'm working on the + levels now. Honestly I find them more fun then the originals. I've tried a few of the Experts I've unlocked as well... those are insanely hard.
Have you beaten 1+ DK yet? I'm finding him to be a mammoth prick.Quote:
Originally Posted by bbobb
Oh, I starred that bitch. Wait till you get to 4+ and 5+ DKs... that shit is hard as hell.Quote:
Originally Posted by cka
I'm dreading playing the last two DKs.
Wait, am I missing something? I starred all 48 of the normal levels, and it opened 6 worlds of + levels. How do you get the Expert levels?Quote:
Originally Posted by bbobb
Exit back to the main menu, there's a selection ther for expert levels.Quote:
Originally Posted by elfneedsfood
This game is indeed great stuff, classic nintendo.
And the Game Informer review is so damn lame. She says its too short and too easy, and then mentions that there is supposed to be a lot of unlockables but that she is not the kind of girl that goes back and tries to unlock everything. So then she has no idea how long the game ACTUALLY is!
She played the first set worlds and calls it done and says its short. LAME! Why is it that a lot of magazine reviewers complete ignore other avenues of replayability? Such things like score, which is more eye of the beholder I suppose. But not playing batches of extra levels and claiming to be short is maddness.
And I totally agree with Frogacuda on them using the Rare DK. Nintendo made their own damn DK why not just use that? They totally catered to Rares design with this game. Not that the game does not look great, I just dislike that style DK. Does not hurt the game really though. Just disapointing.
Well, I doubt the "Rare" DK is the sole creation of Rareware. Nintendo probably had quite a bit to say concerning what he looked like.
Also, he's looked this way ever since Country. Because Country was supposed to be his big update, he's kept the look into present day. Maybe they're going to re-envision the character some day, but I doubt it'll be anytime soon. He's the DK that people recognise.
And like I said before, I like him. :p
It pisses me off like no other. Especially since the + levels are entirely new levels, and there's a new boss at the end after you beat them all. So essentially the whole game is the original and plus levels, so it is in fact pretty big, and quite challenging.Quote:
Originally Posted by Clash_Master
LOL! What a miserable review. If I was Nintendo, I'd write them a harsh letter.Quote:
Originally Posted by Clash_Master
Oh, I think I see the problem now.
And for those who are dumb like I was, wondering why I'm missing the high score by like 6000 points... the remaining time from the 1st half of a stage carries over, but is lost when you continue. So you pretty much have to do both parts in one run for a high score.
Just finished world 3 with all stars =D I'm only playing about an hour a day during my lunch break at work; this should last me a while.
I think you're the only one who is that dumb. :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Mzo
Maybe D=
I'd just assumed other had the same problem, since people were telling me it's hard to get stars by World 3... as soon as I realized what I was doing wrong, I tore through them and the 1st stage of World 4.
I'm just messing with you. It took me a few levels to realize it, too.
Also, the hammer gives a huge point bonus for each monster you destroy over one. So, if it's possible, move all of the beasties to one area and take them all out with the hammer for ridiculous amounts of pointage.
I mean really... what's the difference? A cow lick-hairstyle and sans pig nostrils?Quote:
Originally Posted by Captain Vegetable
I just dislike the textures they use on his model, if they used more unnatural cartoony flat colours/textures he'd look way cooler. The character models in DK King of Swing kick arse.
I just finished stage 4-3 with a star this morning. I think there was some easy way to do the first part quickly and with all the gifts that I overlooked, because what I ended up doing seems needlessly complicated.
Wow, I'm a bit surprised that MvDK is so well received here. With all the reviews I've been reading and what I've seen in previews, I thought Nintendo was releasing an updated lackluster rehash of DK94. Glad to know that I'm wrong.
Yup, I'm buying this now.
You'll soon learn to lol at reviews along with us.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cowdisease
This game is more of a full-blown sequel than a rehash.