Didn't your link just say it was old, not untrue?Quote:
Originally Posted by Green
Don't they just force convicts into war anyway?Quote:
Originally Posted by pixelassassin
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Didn't your link just say it was old, not untrue?Quote:
Originally Posted by Green
Don't they just force convicts into war anyway?Quote:
Originally Posted by pixelassassin
Like bbobb said above, it was a scare tactic used by democratic senators.
I'd understand the concept of a draft if our country was being actively invaded and my fucking home had to be defended. I'd be the first to sign up for a legit conflict like that. Otherwise, as NeoZeedeater stated, forcing someone against their will to fight and die while the coward politicians that started the conflict sit back and relax all nice and safe is disgusting. The idea of being a nameless, faceless pawn in a political chess game with no say about where I go or who I kill or when I die sickens me. Besides, most of the wars this country has fought in recent years have all been us basically sticking our nose where it doesn't belong, not serving some greater good or ideal. That's supposed to make me want to 'serve' my country? This bullshit in Iraq is just an example of Bush droping people with families waiting for them back at home into the meat grinder for no good reason. Iraq is free now, but who gives a shit? I'm still paying $2.19 for a gallon of regular gas, Bush still lied about WMD, and all those soliders are still dead.
Luckily, this story appears to be old and outdated.
Besides, I'm 28. Bwa-ha-ha.
Regarding the gas prices thing Dolemite - I think that they'd have gone up with or without a war in the middle east anyway. Oil reserves are in trouble and I think the small age of cheap and plentiful fuel is now a thing of the past, or will soon be. All I'm saying is don't be suprised when you're paying 3 bucks a gallon. Lets hope they get a move on with those fuel cell cars.
I think when the eventual realization of the oil crash hits everyone, the standard everyday vehicle use will be the first to go, meaning regular people driving their regular cars - it'll be prohibited. Fuel will be reserved for neccessary vehicles such as farming services/utilities, electric companies, water companies , etc etc, police and medical. More cities should be thinking about constructing city spanning rail systems for everyday use that run on some sort of alternate renewable power source. Easier said than done.
What I really see as the problem is that cities that are built in a spread out manner, such as Houston, Texas - where I reside, is that everything is spread enormously far apart. Where in a place like New York, if one lives in the city or in the outskirts of the city, they dont need a vehicle to survive, because they can walk down to work or to the grocery store and walk to their clothing shops and doctor's offices, etc etc. A city like Houston however is not built upwards, but built outwards due to the vast expanses of outlying land that surrounds our city. My neighborhood for example is a subdivision that is 15 minutes by car to the nearest city (no shit), and 25 minutes to Houston city limits themselves - both when driving in a car at speed limit. Between my subdivision and the nearest 'city' is a wide expanse of countryside (farmlands, forests, long grass fields and slightly rolling terrian), some of it pretty yes, but how would one get across it without cars? Public transportation does not come this far, and there is no rail system that we could use to get to the city. =\
Wow - tangent, sorry - just something i was thinking about.
I'd say what Station would, we both got our info from the same place afterall :P
In all seriousness though, I think the war with Iraq is just a firecracker compared to some of the wars we'll be fighting in the near future as oil reserves continue to run out and there isn't enough to go around. I would start getting ready for a global depression now.
I'm lucky I'm so busted. Real threat, I wouldn't mind fighting, I'd try to sign up on my own... But until one hits, Goddamn amd I lucky I'm so busted. Bad feet, surgically repaired knees that can go out at any time (and sometimes do!), long, thick scar tissue running under the skin of my left thigh from where they had to pull muscle tissue down in order to keep my kneecap in place among other things... I wouldn't pass a physical, I'd be a liability for my troop. You guys have fun!
I'll keep your wives company.
*steps on a bug*Quote:
Originally Posted by soundwave
Hey, I'm doing MY part to stop the Alien Bug war-machine...
Then go enlist.Quote:
Originally Posted by soundwave
We could just get the fuck out of Iraq.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gohron
We could just develop alternate energy sources.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gohron
Probably after the oil industry is out of the White House.
Fossil Fuels have about 100 years tops left, sadly that's out of my time, but no time better than the present to find a solution. I'll be 18 next year, and the hell if I'm going to fight in a war I intend to avoid ever killing someone, yet alone for reasons that I have no applicable care for. I'm also not one for conformism, which is what the military does. Conformist officers take away others individualism for an (honorable) position.
I have no hatred for the military, but the hell if I'm being Forced to join. Isn't there a certain amount of time you can serve in the military to be exempt from things like a draft?
Unfortunately... it's just not that easy. Even fuel cells, the most viable solution at the present, have problems in that they require oil to make the fuel cells, and they arent really that much cleaner than oil. Even if the government increases research spending by ten times it will probably take a decade or more before something viable is developed.Quote:
We could just develop alternate energy sources.
And then, once we have something, it's a matter of building the infrastructure... which is another huge expense and comes with a whole other set of problems. It's hard to imagine just how much oil is used in this country (remember, its not just used to power cars, industrial machines for example will have to be redesigned in mass quantities and I doubt enough engineers exist to make this happen quickly) and that is why people tend to trivialize the matter of finding alternate energy sources.
So...
01. It's gonna take a long time to develop something usable in large quantities.
02. It's gonna take a long time to develop a usable infrastructure for that something.