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They just had a story on this on ABC news. It's a card that allows Minors to see R rated movies without an adult. Some consider it a way for parents to allow kids to go to R rated movies that they feel are mature enough to go. Others feel that it's a way to shun parental responsibility. So what do you guys thing?
I've never had a problem getting into R rated movies since I was 15. But with how scrawny and young most teens look these days, this could be good for them.
i dont see how it shuns parental responsibility. weather the parent sits through the movie or not the kid will still see the same thing. i assume you need to have the parents fill something out before getting one?
I fail to see the point in having R rated movies at all if there's something which allows special kids to bypass the R rating.
I honestly don't get the point of it at all. Any kid that's mature enough to see an R Rated movie and really wants to see said movie already knows how to get around the supposed "restrictions". Then again this could all be some elaborate scheme to round up a nationwide list of parents that are dumb enough to go on record and declare that they want their child(ren) to disobey this specific law.
Speaking of other Box Office stupidity, another thing I heard on the radio recently discussed a new drive to automatically make movies that feature smoking to be R Rated. Good thing this doesn't seem to be happening any time soon, otherwise damn near every movie made before 1960 would be R Rated, not to mention cartoons like Alice in Wonderland and The Sword in the Stone.
Yeah. The parent has to get it. The arguement that they gave for parents shunning responsibility is for the huge gap when it comes to how extreme content in an R rated movie can be. You get some that are borderline R while you get some that you wonder how it squeezed it's rating in. A parent that allowed their kid to have the R card would have access to all of these without the parent at least having to watch the movie first or go with them.
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Originally Posted by dog$
Actually many in Hollywood are against this as they feel it defeats the purpose of the voluntary ratings system.
i saw the report too. I think it's a good idea. At one point a few years before i turned 17 (a while ago) theaters started to enforce the ratings which they hadn't done before and it really pissed me off. I used to have my parents buy my tickets, but then they started checking to make sure the parent actually attended the movie. This way parents have a say and the theaters are being responsible, but kids that can handle it still get to be independent and see the movies they want to.
Just to clarify the theater chain makes the cards and they are good for that chain. It's not a universal card. As of now there are only 9 participating theaters, and i think they mentioned that there will be 30 by the end of the year.
Cool. Someone else saw it too.
Did they go into detail about how to get one and such. I only saw part of it so I didn't get to hear everything.
*L* To this day I'm still shocked how a character like Popeye who was created to get kids to eat the veggies, ended up regulated to Late Night because of his pipe.Quote:
Originally Posted by dog$
Now it did influence me into wanting a toy pipe to toot every now and then when I was young, but the school system, plus experience with second hand smoking was more than enough to keep me away from the real deal. In the end, I don't know what to think of it really. Speaking of which though, are there any PG13 movies that feature other drugs or alcohol?
to get the card you just need a parent to go with you and sign up. it costs $2.
Dude Where's My Car was pg-13. In the commentary track they talk about how they had to tip toe around the fairly prominent role drugs play in the movie. That's why they inserted the word "shibby". They'd say things like "lets get shibby" or something like that to mean they were toking up.
First, I don't want a bunch of damn teenagers being annoying when I go see a movie. There are already enough of them that don't belong there as it is.
Second, I'd only be okay with this if it were on a per-movie basis. It indeed is parents not doing their damn job of parenting. If you're a parent, and your kid wants to see Troy, and it is rated R, and you know that you're cool with your kid seeing the movie, then you can allow them to see it. But give teenagers an open-ended ability to see any R-rated movie they want? Maybe 10% of teenagers could actually properly handle this, and would be mature enough to see whatever.
This is why the MPAA rating system has failed. Because a R rated movie should, by definition, not be suitable for young people. But now it is. And if you do make a movie that truly is not suitable for young people, it gets slapped with an NC-17 rating, which is the kiss of death for movies.
Ebert is, I think, a buffoon but he talks about this constantly, and he proposes a workable adult rating that would allow studios to make adult movies without being worried about NC-17 or whatever. He's right on. Unfortunately it's too late for this and we will end up with sanitized films as time goes on (more PG-13, which we already have, and squeakier R-rated films).
kids all see this stuff anyway. i'd guess 99% of kids 14 and over can handle just about any R rated movie. I just think it's stupid that people say this card is shirking parental responsibility, but any kid with responsible parents will know how to view and handle an R rated movie. If people want to complain about bad parenting they should be attacking the bad parents, not the movie industry. It's not like this card circumvents parents entirely.
My guess is that if a parent is willing to go to a movie theatre and spend two dollars to let their kid see any R rated movie they are probably good parents. If they were not good parents the kids would be messed up by that age anyway so I dont see why it would matter.
I myself have been going to R movies since I was a young teen. Granted, Ive always been the extreme for maturity level at my age, so how should I know...
I've been to a lot of R movies, with my father or with a friend and their parents. I've never attempted to sneak in, but it's not the most complicated thing in the world as far as I've heard.
The card could work for some, but I see it failing for others. There are some really gritty R movies that don't compare to the swearing and one sex-scene movies out there. Parents would end up complaining that they didn't want their child to see that movie.
A movie-by-movie basis would be fine with me, or just reverting back to the having a parent buy the ticket method. Obviously, they think their kid's mature enough to handle the content, so why the hell should they sit through a movie with them? Their kid doesn't need his hand held at that point.
Honestly, I don't see it causing much good. DVDs come out a few mere months after a film leaves the theater, so I don't even care for the R restrictions anymore. The card's an unneeded addition.
I think its a good idea only if the theaters that currently don't sell R rated tickets to people under 17 use this card system.
From what I understand, its not the MPAA's fault that NC17 movies are fucked at the box office. The reason they are fucked is because TV stations and stuff won't advertise NC17 movies. Sorta like how the Catholic church was the reason for the hollywood code back in the 50's. In both instances it was outside forces that prevented the movie industry from backing films that were more explicit than the norm.
I can only dream of the type of movies that would be acceptable today if religion didn't make so many people such uptight pricks.
I've recently heard that there are a bunch of NC-17 movies coming out. The movie makers are starting to take advantage of the freedom the rating gives them. And some of these movies actually have actors we have heard of before.
As far as TV not advertising NC-17 movies, do they really need to? Word spreads like wildfire thanks to the internet these days. I would imagine that the target audience for NC-17 movies is the highest demographic of internet users.
NC-17 is going to be used for all types of subject matter, including no-hardcore frontal nudity, explicit drug use, extreme violence, and other issues the general public in America have problems with.
For now, you may have to go to smaller independent movie houses to see NC-17 movies. But as more big name directors and actors start making these movies, they will become more mainstream.
They wouldnt go let me see Dawn of the Dead on opening day, I went back two days after, and they let me in.
Just sneak in. It's not too hard.
I've found that I can easily get R tickets by buying them online with my check card.
It does'nt take a rocket scientist, to figure out how to get into an R-rated film. All a person has to do, is buy a ticket for another movie showing at the same time, then they walk into the R-rated movie.
This sort of move, just takes some of the pressure off of the theaters. They are'nt held responsible, for letting under age patrons into movies, that they can't regulate.
it's really hard to sneak in around here. they cracked down big time including sometimes at the door of the theater the movie is playing in if they suspect its a movie kids will really want to see.