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06 Jun 2004, 02:41 AM
Jeremy

Seeing Diff rattle off "there are rules of etiquitte on a message board" is hilarious, on top of the usual hypocrisy of that statement coming from him, I guess those same rules don't apply for chat rooms being linked off of the board.
06 Jun 2004, 02:46 AM
Rich

:lol: Jeremy is on a roll today, or something.
06 Jun 2004, 02:58 AM
Dyne

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeremy

Seeing Diff rattle off "there are rules of etiquitte on a message board" is hilarious, on top of the usual hypocrisy of that statement coming from him, I guess those same rules don't apply for chat rooms being linked off of the board.

i dont think it matters who says it, its still the truth.
06 Jun 2004, 02:59 AM
Damian79

Quote:

Originally Posted by diffusionx

shidoshi, to be quite frank I dont give a shit about your prior actions as a webmaster. I also dont care if Nick is paying for it out of pocket. This is not what the problem is. The problem is that Bahn, not "Bahn 1998 Who Founded the Site" or "Bahn 2003 Who Handed TNL to Nick" but Bahn present used his mod powers to sticky a thread in which he basically said, "Hey we're making this new site that's gonna improve on (read: be better than) TNL". That's just not cool, no matter who does it.

There are certain rules of etiquette that apply to message boards and one is, dont advertise your own fucking site w/o permission. Bahn broke that rule of etiquette. He stickied a thread that linked to a site that said, "The Next Level Begins Again". WTF is that? It's just not right.

I think you are taking it out of context. Bahn is simply trying to improve upon TNL without messing up the good parts of TNL while he is at it. Which is from what I read was the goal of TNL in the first place, a gaming site that improves on the old formula. Would you have preferred that he try new things with TNL and kill TNL and the work that Nick and everyone involved worked hard to create and even harder to maintain?

Atleast he didn't do something downright wrong like putting a big article on the front page about the new site. And it is a testament to the quality of the TNL forums and forum goers that he would want people from TNL to participate on his forums aswell. I mean where else would a sane person want people from? IGN? Gamespot? Gaming-Age? TeamXbox? Gamefaqs?
06 Jun 2004, 02:59 AM
Diff-chan

I like how Rich can contribute nothing to the discussion but attack me. Real classy, slugger.

Quote:

I think you are taking it out of context. Bahn is simply trying to improve upon TNL without messing up the good parts of TNL while he is at it. Which is from what I read was the goal of the first TNL, a gaming site that improves on the old formula. Would you have preferred that he try new things with TNL and kill TNL and the work that Nick and everyone involved worked hard to create and even harder to maintain?

Like I said, I wish him luck with that. But he shouldnt be advertising like he did on Sound Off.
06 Jun 2004, 03:09 AM
Rich

Thanks, slugger.
06 Jun 2004, 03:12 AM
AstroBlue

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dragonmaster Dyne

i dont think it matters who says it, its still the truth.

Just because Diff is a cunt some of the time doesn't mean you should ignore everything he says. Even if it's hypocritical; it sometimes takes one to know one, ja?

There's one thing I don't understand about Got Next. Why didn't Bahn just implement all these new changes and his vision to TNL? Why not build from a partially established foundation rather than just begin building a whole new site from scratch?

And I'm sorry, but a site called "Got Next" can never be a success. When I hear "The Next Level", I know it's about videogames; "Games Are Fun": games; "GameSpot": games; "Imagine Games Network": games; "Magic Box": games, "GameSpy": games, "1Up": games, "GameFAQS": games... games... games...

"Got Next" : next days milk
06 Jun 2004, 03:16 AM
Dyne

Quote:

Originally Posted by AstroBlue

Just because Diff is a cunt some of the time doesn't mean you should ignore everything he says. Even if it's hypocritical; it sometimes takes one to know one, ja?

didnt exactly get what youre saying but i was agreeing with diff :D unless you were also agreeing with me.......head hurts.
06 Jun 2004, 03:17 AM
Damian79

Quote:

Originally Posted by diffusionx

Like I said, I wish him luck with that. But he shouldnt be advertising like he did on Sound Off.

I think I am missing something here? While I didn't like the stickying, you guys make it sound much worse from what I read on the first page of his thread.

Can't we all come to some middle round here and say, Bahn has the right to have his own thread to mention the opening of his new site, but not sticky it?

He could probably have used his sig to advertise his site and no one would bitch about it. It seems like people here want to make a mountain out of a mole hill.
06 Jun 2004, 03:24 AM
Lhadatt

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick

Bahn is still an admin here and is still receiving games for TNL. I have tried not to argue in this thread because it's supposed to be about his other site, so if you want to stop derailing the topic, I will return it to Bahn. If anyone wants to start a separate thread on the history and future of TNL, be my guest. I'll participate. We can even move these posts there.

If you haven't had a chance to check your email, I apologize, but we need to do a little fact checking here.

Bahn sent a "Farewell to TNL" letter on 6/4 at 5:12PM his time. You posted the above quote on 6/5. The email follows:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bahn in Email

Subject: Farewell to The Next Level
From:"Chris Scantleberry" <chris.s@the-nextlevel.com>
Date: Fri, June 4, 2004 4:12 pm
To: [edited]
Cc:"Nick Vlamakis" <nick@the-nextlevel.com>
Priority: Normal
Dear Friends and Colleagues.

For six years, The Next Level has been one of my greatest joys and most treasured
accomplishments. What originally set out to be a mere home-brewed web project
evolved into something much great than I ever anticipated. And through trial and
error, I learned a great deal about the logistics and trends of the industry which
has been a rewarding experience. But now, I am saying goodbye to my first virtual
home. As of today, I will no longer a part of the site.

Although I am officially signing off from The Next Level, I do have another project
in the works. It's with great pleasure that I formally announce the forthcoming
launch of a new gaming enthusiast site, Got-Next.com, scheduled to launch later this
Summer. Essentially, the site aspires to have a greater focus on unique,
entertaining features complimented by a regular curriculum of gaming related
content. The staff will include a talented group of writers including Andrew
Alfonso, who will be joining the site as Senior Editor.

In my absence, Nick Vlamakis will be handling all editorial and public relation
affairs including product provisions. He can be reached at [edited] or
by phone at [edited] if you wish to contact him.

If you have any questions about how Got-Next.com will operate, our upcoming plans,
and more --- please contact me at my personal email account [edited] or
by phone at [phone edited out]. And for the savvy AIM types who'd like to talk via instant
messenger, I can be contacted at [edited]. Aside from my email address -- all my
contact info will remain current (i.e. phone numbers) but please contact me just to
make sure your records are up to date). I will alert everyone once my official
got-next.com email account is ready to receive operational. J

Please also note: Until Got Next is officially ready to launch, I will not be
requesting product at this time on behalf of the site. We are planning to launch
approximately before the Third Quarter expires. During this time, several launch
stories will be prepared so if you would like to assist us with some exciting,
compelling content, assets, or even promotions, don't hesitate to drop me a line.

Thanks again to all for your continued support.

Kind regards,

Chris

Got-Next.com
Chris Scantleberry
Editor-in-Chief
[edited]
http://www.got-next.com

For the clueless, Chris is Bahn.

Now, check out that CC: field. Nick, your email address is in there. You got that email, unless you didn't check it or TNL's mail server is busted. Basically, Bahn isn't going to be receiving any more games on behalf of TNL. If he does get any more that might be in transit, I imagine that he will send those to you promptly.

As for the admin access, his was removed on 6/3. He is now a normal user on this site.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bahn to cka

Session Start (AIM - bahndotcom:ckafightersnet): Thu Jun 03 22:51:59 2004
bahndotcom: hey
bahndotcom: can you do me a favor?
ckafightersnet: what's that
bahndotcom: can you remove my admin status
ckafightersnet: at tnl?

Bahn has severed ties with TNL. He no longer has admin rights here, he is a normal user. He is no longer receiving games for TNL. He is even postponing product requests until GN's content side launches. Yes, stickying this thread and pimping his site here may have been a bit tactless, but I believe everyone is harping on that way too much.

Nick, I do respect your tenacity for keeping this site up even when you have had financial and personal problems. However, Bahn is showing a good faith effort by withdrawing from the administrative structure of TNL and properly notifying his and TNL's industry contacts of his resignation from the site. Let's please get over any social faux pas Bahn may have committed and get back to talking about the games.

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