How many of these organizations are there and how many have they killed?Quote:
Originally Posted by Almaci
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How many of these organizations are there and how many have they killed?Quote:
Originally Posted by Almaci
can we get numbers on this? because i think you are overstating the representativness of these groups. they are completely outside of both the pro-life or christian movements, and have been roundly denounced by both.Quote:
Originally Posted by Almaci
It doesnt matter how many they have killed, fact is they exist and are just one other group within a democracy that commits terrorist acts.
Its just one example of dozens I gave that disprove The Meach´s frankly ridiculous claims.
The percentage is sooo much lower, though, which I think was his point. Obviously that wouldn't be an absolute.
BTW, eventually, one of these groups/people are going to upset the wrong person and even more hell will ensue.
No his point was clearly stated, he said that democracies dont bring forward loonies like that.
Yet the examples I gave were all from so called democracies and combined(second world war not counting) have caused the deaths of tens of thousands of innocent victims.
Pretty compareable given population sizes if you ask me.
And French scholars said that 100 million people have died from Communism. And then you have dictators like Hussein and Islamofascists who have killed millions more. A bunch of looneys killing maybe 10 abortion doctors, then being caught and tried for it within society really cant compare.
But shit, America sucks, democracy is evil, let's give communism one more try.
You actually think that communism could work in a country with a population as large as China? You are kidding right? Infact the sheer amount of corruption in India's democratic government is causing a movement towards communism. That is not to say it is a good thing, but you have to consider how viable it is to maintain one is such large populuses(sp?).Quote:
Originally Posted by diffusionx
You can't simply impose a new lifestyle without expecting retaliation.
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Originally Posted by diffusionx
Way to twist my words yet again.
Ahahaha. I just had to paste this "reviewer's" insights:Quote:
Originally Posted by diffusionx
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http://g-images.amazon.com/images/G/.../stars-1-0.gif HAHAHAHAHAHA worthless nonsense, June 12, 2004
Reviewer: guerrilla_commmunist from Anchorage Alaska USA
Communism made the world bloody??? NO capitalism is responsible for more deaths than fascism and communism. The USA a bastion of imperialism and oppression has killed more people than Mao Hitler and Stalin doubled. Capitalism is a more warlike philosophy and the wars that are fought are soley for money. I dont defend the USSR it has commited many atrocities but not because it is communist. Name a capitalist country that hasn't started a war. Why we are killing innocent people right now and sending them to prison camps and torturing them for speaking against our nation in Iraq. We have the illusion of liberty and freedom but only for the 250 million americans out of the 7 billion people and the even more sad thing is that this has only been true for scarcely 40 years! Every capitalist nation is evil why do you think they always attack leftist regimes and support right wing fascists? Does that sound fair to you? no it isn't capitalism defends this by saying well we are just lucky trying to cover up the fact that they deserve wealth no more than the people we have driven into starvation and oppression. Every war we have fought was fought for money all the USA cares about is protecting its bank and corporate interests. The USA goes to war whenever are oil interests are threatend (Iraq and soon Venezuela) so which to you looks more reppressive? Communism is for the interests of the workers it looks beyond race and religion capitalism doesnt. Your book and philosophy sicken me you are a brain washed american whose only reason for critisizing communism is to defend your lavish lifestyle and easy living so you dont have to think of the millions of dead and impoverished people around the world that capitalist imperialism is responsible for. Maybe someday you will become educated and learn that equality is the answer and communism is equality.
Translation: "You're all just stupid brainwashed Americans trying to demonize and paint with broad strokes against Communism unfairly!!! PHEAR MY WRATH!!! YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH!!!!"
Eh, he's just a loveable misguided humanitarian, I'm sure, that just truly cares about the "peoples," or rather, the "workers..."
The Weimar Republic WAS a LIBERAL DEMOCRACY.Quote:
Originally Posted by The_Meach
* All citizens had the right to vote for representitives in fair "silent" elections.
* All citizens had Freedom of Speech, Assembly, Religion, Property. etc.
* All citizens were deemed equal.
If that's not a free society, then I don't know what is. In fact, the Weimar Republic was more democratic than America. It had proportional representation for the legislative house, which means unlike in America were a minority vote is equal to no vote at all *coughNADERcough*, a minority vote does count.
So what is exactly your point? That free-democratic societies do not breed violence and "resistance", discounting those which have violence and things to resist against? Isn't that just a tautology, and not only is that a tautology, isn't it just obvious. If someone is neither spiritually, culturally or economically suppressed; what do they have to resist against? Not being repressed and poor?
I'm not dissing democracy in any way, shape or form; I believe in democracy with the full force of my heart, I'd die for it. But saying "MAKE A COUNTRY A FREE DEMOCRACY AND EVERYTHING WILL BE OK" is just plain bullshit. Liberal Democracy fixes a bunch of problems (cultural-political supression) that lead to violence, but it doesn't solve all the problems that lead to violence (such as economic supression), as best seen in Weimar Germany (a perfectly fine democracy).