:lol: Nice try.Quote:
Originally Posted by Almaci
I have now heard the word Tautology 5 times in my life.Quote:
Originally Posted by The_Meach
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:lol: Nice try.Quote:
Originally Posted by Almaci
I have now heard the word Tautology 5 times in my life.Quote:
Originally Posted by The_Meach
Hey I aint the one extrapolating a lot of shit that people never said.Quote:
Originally Posted by diffusionx
People like Haomaru, Stone, yoshi etcetera however pull that shit against me constantly.
The discusion here was NOT about the things Haomaru pulled in(things which I acknoledged myself in the past no less and he knows that) but rather the ludicrous and disproven claims by the Meach yet Haomaru finds it necesary yet again to attack me personaly and provide guilt by association, to smear me as some sort of misguided loony while he klnows fully well that I actually agree with some of the things he brings forward.
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Originally Posted by Almaci
Ludicrous? Disproven (sic)?Quote:
Originally Posted by The_Meach
Using your logic, America isn't a stable society because neoconservatism is a dangerous movement.
I don't see how you can equate the two there...
I like the way you think.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mfkzt
I'm relatively new here so maybe it's a bit premature but I think I'm going impose a ban on myself.
From conversing w/Almaci. :rolleyes:
chicken
Where did I attack you personally? I merely said that if you believe that the U.S. is the only nation that does covert things to sabotage governments then you are an idiot. That wasn't directed at Almaci, King of Distortion on the Isle of Woe, it was directed at anyone that might believe it. I pulled your quote because it, once again, only names the U.S. as the sole country pulling the strings behind an Iranian revolution - and you know better.Quote:
Originally Posted by Almaci
I think. :P
Good point. When it comes to covertly destroying other countries in the name of cash flow, the CIA, MI6 and Mossad will get the job done.
Look guys, just listen to what I'm saying here. Seriously, just listen to what I'm saying, and then think about it.
Forget the evidence that the WTC was a controlled demolition; the evidence that the Pentagon wasn't hit by a plane; all the insider trading on the market before the attacks; that fighter planes were intentionally diverted and delayed.
What you missed is this (which tells me you didn't think about what I was saying): nearly 3 years after the attacks, we know that the people mentioned in that BBC article I posted weren't on the planes they are alleged to have been on. YET, what should I see on CNN a few weeks ago during a 9/11-related story (about the commission I think)... but their pictures included with the other hijackers.
So to summarize: after 3 years, we know those people weren't on the planes. They are still alive, they couldn't have been on the planes. They've talked to the press in other countries. But in the US media, they are still listed as the hijackers. Now, if you don't seen something wrong with that picture, then you have been so brainwashed by the media and the government that I am almost ready to tip my hats to them, if it weren't so sad.
Whacko
Good post.
Well, I knew somebody who was working in the Pentagon on 9/11. He confirmed that the building was in fact hit by a plane.
One of my friends had a co-worker who had the misfortune of being on the plane to San Fran. He no longer seems to be alive.
But stranger things have happened, eh?
Matt, you don't understand. I'm afraid you've been so brainwashed by the media and the government you're not thinking clearly.
Your friend was probably paid handsomely to propagate the lie of the plane hitting the Pentagon and your other friend's co-worker isn't alive because the government made it so. Think about it...
(Seriously, I've never put anybody on ignore before, but I'm coming very close to with wacko Jakko here.)
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Originally Posted by NightWolve
There's an easier way to explain away all this so-called 'evidence' about these so-called 'attacks' that never really 'happened'. His friend is...a Jew...DUN-DUN-DUNH! :rolleyes: :yuck:
Those filthy, lieing, cheapskate Jews.
You forgot the plotting. In the back room. Behind the curtains. Always w/the plotting. :rolleyes: :yuck:Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike
Jakkal: "controlled demolition"? WTF is wrong with you?
Silence, whelp! The Elders of Zion have their ways! Questioning Jakkal only PROVES you are teh_washedBraindead. It is clear to ANY un-biased believer in the most convoluted of conspiracy theories that 9/11 makes WAY more sense as a plot by mysterious interests than as an actual terrorist attack by known terrorists that claimed responsibility for said terrorist action. Way. More. :yuck:Quote:
Originally Posted by Damian79
Again, you've proved my point. You don't address what I just said, you just call me crazy. That doesn't count as an argument. This is the second or third time now. You don't address it because you know it supports what I'm saying.Quote:
Originally Posted by Almaci
Matt: I don't know the whole story about your friend so I can't really comment. Did he see the plane coming in towards the building? What did he say to you? I'm sorry, but the physical evidence conclusively points to it not being a civilian passenger plane. The problem with the testimony of eye-witnesses in events involving such shock as seen on 9/11 is that they don't always remember it the way it happened because it's over in an instant (the approach of the plane/missile, that is - not the emotional impact).
I'm sorry to hear about your friend and your co-worker's friend. I'm not saying that he/she is still alive. Unfortunately, most everyone on those 4 flights lost their lives. If someone I knew was killed in the 9/11 attacks, I would want to know the truth, personally, and would examine every source and account to make up my mind. And even if we don't know someone who was, we owe it to those killed to learn the truth. If people had learned the truth behind the invasion of Afghanistan, Iraq wouldn't have happened.
Nightwolve: I'm not surprised that someone who seems to have a major hard on for Reagan behaves the way you do. You want to ignore me, fine! You think I enjoy listening to you either? But I still respect your opinion, so I don't put you on ignore. As Voltaire said, "I may not agree with what you say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it."
Damian79: Read/watch the evidence at http://www.serendipity.li/wtc5.htm if you want to know why I say that. And that is NOT the only site with 9/11 evidence. There was a person who posted earlier (Nightwolve I think) who said he didn’t read any of the evidence on that website I posted because it contains a link to another questionable site or something like that (which is a pathetic excuse, by the way). There are many, many sites, television programs, and documentaries out there. Take your pick. Just because a website has a link you disagree with, doesn’t mean that that is an automatic go-ahead to disregard its evidence, especially when that evidence contains photographic, video, and scientific support, and is sourced from other websites. You just used that as an excuse not to read it because you either couldn’t be bothered (my God, all that reading!), or you’re afraid that it might just be the truth. The evidence isn’t political, or ideological. It simply exists.
The Meach: The last audio/video communication from bin Laden that everyone (US and European independant confirmation - not JUST the CIA) agrees is authentic is from him 2 days after the attacks, saying he wasn't reponsible. In general, when the CIA says something is "authentic", you know it's fake. :D And yes, this "theory" does make more sense. It's the classic Hegelian dialect of problem, reaction, solution. It was used in Pearl Harbor, the USS Liberty, the bombing of the Maine, the Reichstag fire, Vietnam - there are dozens and dozens of examples in the 20th century alone.
I never said this was a Jewish conspiracy. It isn't. The vast majority of Jews are decent, honest people and have no idea what their religion is being used for. I have many Jewish friends myself. The neo-cons are hiding behind Judaism, and anyone who starts telling the truth is labelled an anti-Semite.
You guys would think I’m trying to force you to believe what I believe. I’m not. I've never done that in my life; it's no different from the forces I want to see replaced. I’m merely trying to get you to open your eyes and judge for yourself. I'm pretty sure none of you have looked at the evidence seriously. Admit it. If you want to go on living in this world believing the lies, then fine, that’s your choice, it doesn't affect me, and I wish you the best of luck. But I don’t think you’ve had a chance (or given it a chance) to look at the situation genuinely and make up your own mind with ALL the information.
I will say this right now: if anyone wants to debate the evidence that Mossad and the CIA were responsible for 9/11, then please let me know, because I’d love to. No one has done that yet, all you’ve done is ridicule me and ignored my points. You either haven’t looked at the evidence, or you know you’d lose. If this is such a ridiculous theory, then it should be easy to take it apart. So come on and prove me wrong.
Well, now you've got to explain what happened to those passengers that were scheduled to fly the four civilian flights. And explain the phone calls loved ones on the ground recieved from ppl on the flights. And explain the copious amounts of video footage we all witnessed, much of which was Live. The problem with this particular conspiracy is that it not only requires absolute adherence to the party line by the usual cabal of insiders, it also requires the assistance of several million Manhattanites.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jakkal
Just what was it that hit the WTC? A govt plane (which model)? An F-16? A JDAM? Or was it hit at all? Is it still standing? I don't know. I haven't been to NYC. Maybe they're still there, under a big sheet that makes them invisible. But no! According to your laughably amateurish linkage it was FRIGGIN' LASER BEAMS! :lol: :lol: :lol:
I'd insult you here but that would be rude. Suffice to say debating conspiracy theories with a conspiracy theorist is no debate at all, as True Believers will never lose the faith. So long and good luck, slugger.
This is getting better and better as the days go by! This is too good:Quote:
Originally Posted by Jakkal
1) Person with extreme conspiracy theories comes onto the board, overshadowing Almaci.
2) Same person gets called a whacko BY Almaci.
3) That person then responds to Almaci with the same sort of thing Almaci usually uses against Stone/NW/other conservatives.
Next thing you know, Jakkal will be like, "I'VE BEEN VINDICATED ONCE AGAIN! PROPAGANDA!!!" :o
Don't compare Ali to him, you'll only make yourself seem stupid. Ali has backed up every point he's ever made.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike