23 year old teacher gives 14 year old student, and oral exam…

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Originally Posted by flux=rad

This isn't rape, and if you think it is, you watch too much Law & Order. In this situation, there was no threat of physical harm. The kid more than likely had the ability to rape the woman--not the other way around. If this lady is sent to jail (as that other lady was about 8 years ago), it is just stupid. That's blind adherence to moral rules with no regards to context. As though locking up a woman for raping a 14-year-old boy just as you would lock up a man for raping a 14-year-old girl is equal and just, as opposed to just simply stupid.

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I hate to play the Devil's advocate here, since I would have loved for one of my hot teachers to have banged me at 14, this is clearly statutory rape. It may not have been against his will, but statutory laws exist for cases like this.

Regardless of whether or not the boy develops any problems from these encounters, the fact remains that he is not old enough to make proper decisions about his life by law. Do you think that's unfair that we have laws to protect someone who may not fully understand the choice they are making? Is a 14 year-old fully conscious of his or her actions? What about a 12 year-old? Or an 8 year-old? Where do you draw the line? Sure, some 14 year-olds may be more mature than others, but the exceptions don't invalidate the rules and most aren't.

If we're going to have a truly equal justice system, it would be totally unfair to NOT give this woman the same punishment as a case where a man had sex a 14 year-old girl. That woman you were talking about, I forget her name, but she didn't get any jail time from what I remember, from the first case. She didn't get jail time until she went BACK to him after supposedly being rehabbed. And didn't she have a kid with him? Crazy. Shouldn't she have been locked up the first time?

To get back to where I was beforehand, though, I can't remember if any of my teachers were hot when I was 14. If they were, I wish they had ridden me like a pony.

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Originally Posted by Mike

I hate to play the Devil's advocate here, since I would have loved for one of my hot teachers to have banged me at 14, this is clearly statutory rape. It may not have been against his will, but statutory laws exist for cases like this.

Regardless of whether or not the boy develops any problems from these encounters, the fact remains that he is not old enough to make proper decisions about his life by law. Do you think that's unfair that we have laws to protect someone who may not fully understand the choice they are making? Is a 14 year-old fully conscious of his or her actions? What about a 12 year-old? Or an 8 year-old? Where do you draw the line? Sure, some 14 year-olds may be more mature than others, but the exceptions don't invalidate the rules and most aren't.

If we're going to have a truly equal justice system, it would be totally unfair to NOT give this woman the same punishment as a case where a man had sex a 14 year-old girl. That woman you were talking about, I forget her name, but she didn't get any jail time from what I remember, from the first case. She didn't get jail time until she went BACK to him after supposedly being rehabbed. And didn't she have a kid with him? Crazy. Shouldn't she have been locked up the first time?

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I didn't say I think we should just let her screw the kid or anything. What she did is messed up, and we definitely shouldn't promote this kind of weirdness. And obviously I understand that what she did was illegal. My point is that the punishment should fit the crime. 15+ years would be very excessive for this kind of crime. The circumstances are not the same as they would be if a man raped a 14-year-old girl. Almost any man over 18 has the physical ability to rape a 14-year-old girl. In any situation, the man has the threat of physical harm even if it is never used. The power an adult male would have over a female minor is in almost any case far greater than an adult female over a male minor. The fact that the woman is older and is an authority figure is nothing compared to the threat of getting beaten to death.

Now if the woman was some dykey, butch chick, and the kid was some little scrawny pencil-neck, I'd say give the woman the same punishment as the man. Someone shouldn't use their physical superiority to coerce another into having sex (especially a minor). Which brings me to another point. I think what the kid thinks about the situation should have a good deal of merit in these cases. I mean this kid is 14 years old, that's fairly old. It's not like he's a retard. If the kid thinks he was raped, the punishment should be different from if he thought the experience was fuckin' awesome. From the story, it seems like he was into it. It's not like he was saying, "My teacher won't stop raping me! Please help!" Yeah, the kid is 14, that's pretty young. But he isn't some retarded animal, he has a fairly-evolved brain.

Our desire to have everyone equal under the law shouldn't prevent us from judging each case by its own circumstances.

Edit: That one lady actually had 2 babies from that kid I believe. I saw a documentary on her once, but can't remember her name.

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Our desire to have everyone equal under the law shouldn't prevent us from judging each case by its own circumstances.

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In all seriousness though, why are you talking about everyone being equal under the law like its a bad thing? The punishment should fit the crime, but she shouldnt get a lesser sentence just because she's hot and because having sex with your teacher is a fantasy. Hot women get enough little perks in life, she committed a crime and she will be tried and punished by Florida law. If Florida law mandates she gets 15 years that is it.

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Originally Posted by diffusionx

In all seriousness though, why are you talking about everyone being equal under the law like its a bad thing? The punishment should fit the crime, but she shouldnt get a lesser sentence just because she's hot and because having sex with your teacher is a fantasy. Hot women get enough little perks in life, she committed a crime and she will be tried and punished by Florida law. If Florida law mandates she gets 15 years that is it.

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As I've already explained, I think that the lack of threat of physical harm makes this case much different from most child rape cases.

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Originally Posted by flux=rad

As I've already explained, I think that the lack of threat of physical harm makes this case much different from most child rape cases.

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Physical harm is just one of the circumstances. There is also mental harm as well. She could use her age and stature as leverage to coherse the student into sexual relations. It's one reason why the statutory rape law was put into effect.

I'll say this however. I would have been a 2 pump chump for that action, when I was 14. :lol:

man....my 4th grade teacher was so hot.....why cant this ever happen to me :-\

I still can't believe he turned her in. Christ, 14 year olds hate freedom.

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Originally Posted by Mr-K

I still can't believe he turned her in. Christ, 14 year olds hate freedom.

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Actually, his fat bloated, old ass aunt did the deed.

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Originally Posted by IronPlant

Stuff like this only goes to show you how stuck up a lot of people in our society are about our own opinions on how things are done.

It was only about 50 years ago that men marring girls about 20 to 30 years younger than them died out. It was very normal for rich and wealthy men to marry very young and pretty girls and nothing was thought ill of it. In fact it was encourged as most people thought the younger the woman the more energy she would have to pass on to her kids and to use in taking care of said kids.

We know differently now, that having children before the age of 18 can put stress on a female body and isn't good for it.

But that isn't my point. Girls and boys much younger than this boy have been marring people of the same age and of older ages for forever now. Argueing it is horrible wrong because it hurts people is retarded. History shows no such thing.

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Yeah, we also had some other awesome ideas back then, like slavery.

Btw, just saw the "Do the Due" thread again and, holy fuck, you are an idiot.

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Originally Posted by Tyler_Durden

Yeah, we also had some other awesome ideas back then, like slavery.

Btw, just saw the "Do the Due" thread again and, holy fuck, you are an idiot.

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Yes, all culture, behavior, and thought from the time of slavery and before mean nothing do to that one dark act. Newtonian physics mean nothing because there was slavery going on during that time. Thanks man, what would I have done with out your clear mind of logic?