Man these teachers are sure weird...
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/5299732/
Man these teachers are sure weird...
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/5299732/
Why are there so many spelling errors in that article?
Oral exam?
I didnt see anythi.....O_o
OOOOOOHHH!
Maybe maruchan wrote it.
Anyway thats awesome. Why didnt I have teachers like that?
Had it happened to me, I wouldn't have said boo. No guy would.Quote:
Originally Posted by diffusionx
Man, he had to open his big mouth and ruin it.
What a little bitch.
Just in case your wondering what the teacher looked like.
http://www.mjmorningshow.com/timages/page/party_01.jpg
you can see more pics here
www.mjmorningshow.com/morning_DebraPics.html
www.mjmorningshow.com/morning_DebraPics2.html
Man, if she was the hot teacher, I wouldn't have said anything. Being 11 and getting loven from a hot 23 year old woman, your teacher no less, would make you a GOD. A GOD!!!!
But if she is a ugly cow bag, she should be shot. School is hard enough with out being made to have sex with Mc Fattyfatfatt to pass Sceince.
Her space bar must be broken. :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Brisco Bold
Dude...shes hot as hell.
Man she would have been ungodly hot when I was 11. She's a little bland now but nothing I would turn away now.Quote:
Originally Posted by maruchan
We should just give both of them metals and forget about this. Boy gets bonus points for banging a hot older women, women gets bonus points for banging a younger man. I think we all win in this, right?
I didnt have sex with her, so I dont win.
nice.
her teeth look like those joke teeth you get out of those toy capsule vending machines.
You know how those young stupid girls are, one girl does it, it gets on TV and the rest of them want to do it. You never know, it may catch on, then you will be up to your eyeballs in hot 25 years.Quote:
Originally Posted by diffusionx
That report reads like a porn site. It's hot.
I feel sorry for her husband, but her shoulda known better. She's got that "I'm a fucked up white bitch and I'm going to ruin your life" look in her eyes every time she smiles.
I'm not saying ALL white girls are crazy... I'm just saying I haven't met one who isn't.
This pic fits things rather well.
yeah so why the fuck did this kid say anything is what im wondering and dude majorly sucks to be her husband
DUDE 1: "So your wife cheated on you and you got divorced?"Quote:
Originally Posted by Shin Johnpv
DUDE 2: "Yeah, we divorced because of that and because she was going to jail."
DUDE 1: "Jail?"
DUDE 2: "Well, she cheated on me with a 14 year-old."
DUDE 1: *shock*
I remember a few years back another female teacher went to jail for the same thing--and even got pregnant with the 14/15 yr olds kid. She even went back to him after she got caught.
Lets see, you're 14 and just nailed the hottest teacher in the school. I'm sure you'd have kept your mouth shut. :rolleyes: It's not like he went and told his parents, it's more likely he told a friend who told a friend who told a friend and so on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shin Johnpv
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Originally Posted by Xeno G
Okay, let's beat up his friends.
You know I didnt realize how messed up this was for the husband untill I read this. Im done for the day.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike
Yeah, that dude is pwned for life.
Eh, it's what he gets for marrying so young.
The article said his aunt overheard him saying he bagged the hottest teacher or something and she told his mom and she asked him about and he spilled the beans.
KID 1: I hear Johnny's banging Mrs. Smith.
KID 2: He sucks.
KID 3: She's hawt.
KID 1: I hope she rots in jail.
KID 2: I hope he never gets laid again.
KID 3: I'd hit it. You guys are just jealous.
Um, there's no way any one of us would have hit that and kept quiet about it when we were 14.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shin Johnpv
Shit, if I had a kid and he was hitting that, I'd say "that's my boy".
Then I'd ask him to arrange a "parent-teacher conference".
He still cooperated with the police, identified tatoos, and fessed up to his mom. He's an ingrate, I say. If he denied everything, she might have had a fighting chance.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xeno G
Letting the cousin in on it was stupid though. She forgot the "if you want to keep getting this, don't tell anyone" speech.
With you 100% there!Quote:
Originally Posted by Dolemite
:D
If i was this kid's dad I'd slap the cousin for talking so loud. Then I'd slap my kid for fessin up. Then I'd show the teacher that I'm ten times the size of my kid. Ensue parent-teacher conference.
True, but there are few 14 year old kids wouldn't cave into the pressure of his parents & cops coming down on him. And yes, she's a moron for doing anything with him while someone else was around.Quote:
Originally Posted by Frogacuda
"The student told deputies his first sexual encounter with Lafave occurred at her Riverview home June 3. The report states that while Lafave performed oral sex on the boy in her upstairsbedroom, the boy's cousin watched a video in the downstairs living room. Afterward, Lafave drove the boys to Ocala, deputies said. During the trip, she performed oral sex on the student in the back seat of her vehicle, the report states."
Sounds like she forgot that she was now teaching in high school, not going to frat mixes and slutting it up! And if those pictures really show her, she's fuckin smoking.
What pictures?
Anyway, that kid must be the fucking man at school now. I feel bad for the husband though.
Post #7Quote:
Originally Posted by Tyler_Durden
Let's beat up his trifling ho of an aunt.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hot Like Wasabi
She did it in the portable classroom, and also in a car for fuck's sake. Everyone, his brother, and their cat will see them getting it on there. She belongs on America's Dumbest Criminals.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xeno G
This article almost made Van Halen's "Hot for Teacher" play in my head, but that soon was drowned out by Run DMC's "Dumb Girl".
*raps for one line*
"Dumb girl, dumb with a capital D. Tha girl is DUMB."
If someone were to Photoshop part of a meat cleaver or knife along the bottom of that picture to look like she's holding it, that would be scary. ;)
What the hell is wrong with kids these days? Had my mother confronted me with that, I would have lied my ASS off.
Being able to get it on with a hot teacher is a gift from God... you do anything to protect that gift.
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Originally Posted by shidoshi
shidoshi is fucking right here
just cause your mom is like did you bang your teacher you dont say yes :lol: :lol:
Eh it was all gonna come to an end eventually, it was just his way of hitting it and splitting it.
Nice.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rumpy
She's pretty cute, but her teeth are a fucking disaster.
her teeth are straight, white, and not too big or too small.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tyler_Durden
I fail to see any problem with them what so ever.
other then they are wanting to jump out of her skull they look pretty nice.
Shit my mother would probably be proud of me.
"Look Ray... if your mother comes up to you and asks if you are banging your teacher, you say NO!"
Still, I think the real victim here is the husband. That fucker won't be able to set foot in a local bar for years w/o absurd shame over losing to a 14 year old.
You guys read the part that says she faces a $10,000 fine and 15 YEARS in jail for EACH COUNT against her? That's messed up...
It absolutely is.
Look, I don't for a second think that we should make it okay for an older person to have sexual relations with a teenager. Let's get that out of the way from the start.
Buuuut.... this was a case of an older woman having sex with a younger guy. Like it or not, that is different than an older guy having sex with a younger girl. Some may call it sexist, but it just is. Us guys have this amazing ability to have sex and not have it affect us emotionally. I'm pretty sure that this kid has the ability to grow up just fine without any sort of mental scarring. In fact, this may end up being an experience for him to treasure forever. *heh*
Second thing, he's fourteen. Not as "okay" as if he had been older, like sixteen or seventeen, but it still isn't like she was screwing a ten year old or something.
As well, nothing about this makes me think "rape." If they ask the kid, were you forced, and the kid doesn't for a second seem like he was, I think that very much changes things. Like I said, I don't want to have an outcome that makes it seem like this kind of thing is okay in the eyes of the law, but we also have to be smart enough to know the difference between a forced and a non-forced situation.
I agree with shidoshi. I don't care if people say it's a double standard, but it is definitely physically and psychologically different.
If this kid is affected in ANY way, it's that he now thinks he is the shit.
I had caught this on the news yesterday morning, they had some sex abuse therapist talking about how even though right now he may think "WEll I rock, dude I lost my virginity to a pedophiliac whore" that in time he could actually become withdrawn and experiance depression. I agree that could happen... but it's highly unlikely.
I'd be more worried that when he's 23, he'll fuck a 14 year old girl thinking it's ok. His ego could be dangerous, that's about the most trouble I see from this.
And yes, her husband is the victim losing to a 14 year old boy.
I think its more like he lost to the demented crackheadedness of his wife.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thief~Silver
....and yes, crackheadedness is a word. Anything made by me is official.
They should be more worried about the damage this is going to cause the husband, not the kid.
I can imagine the husband waiting at a red light on his way home from talking to his divorce lawyer and a 14 year old kid rides up beside him on his bike and shouts, "I fucked your wife!"
He then drives home and hangs himself because he knows it's true.
The husband's not a bad looking guy, and there will be no shortage of pity fucks until he finds someone else and moves on.
looks like someone's got their own case of crackheadedness going on here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gymkata
As does this one?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeremy
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/graphic...8042teach1.jpg
If he gets older and gets depressed, he's a pussy and deserves to die anyway. So let him get depressed and kill himself.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thief~Silver
"Scott's dead. Killed himself."
"Why?"
"Because he was all depressed. His totally hot 23 year-old teacher had sex with him back when he was 14."
"And he was depressed because of that?"
"Yeah."
"... Good riddance."
Did they require her to photoed with and without make-up?Quote:
Originally Posted by Seven Force
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Originally Posted by Videodrone
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JUNE 28--Meet Debra Lafave. The 23-year-old Florida teacher is facing a host of felony charges for allegedly having sex with a 14-year-old male student. According to investigators, Lafave met the boy at Greco Middle School--where she taught reading--and had sex with him in her classroom, Isuzu SUV, and Tampa-area home. A probable cause affidavit prepared by the Marion County Sheriff's Office details Lafave's alleged involvement with the boy, who was interviewed by cops (as was his cousin, who was present for two of the auto encounters). According to the affidavit--portions of which were redacted by investigators--Lafave told the boy that she was "turned on by the fact that having sexual relations with him was not allowed." Since the incidents occurred in different jurisdictions, Lafave has been named in two separate criminal complaints. As such, she has posed for two booking photos: the below left mug shot was snapped at the Marion County lockup, while the picture at right was taken by Hillsborough County sheriff's deputies
(*pictures of the two different photos*)
FIXED.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike
Make more sense?
This is so sad. We should give this woman money and other grand things for the wonderful thing she did. Not lock her away. We need more hot teachers just like her.
This kid is future prison bait when he rapes a fourteen year old girl. And I garuntee this will happen.
The brain of a fourteen year old child isn't even fully developed yet so the damage done here could take years to undo. You guys may think this all cool and shit, but this will have nothing but negative consequences. Lack of respect for women is just one symptom that will occur. Mysoginy follows soon thereafter.
And Shidoshi, men do NOT have some inherent ability to have sex without emotion. It just takes longer for those emotions to have any effect because we are trained from youth not to be emotional or "weak". Inability to experience intamacy is not a good thing people.
Yeah, because humans have never reproduced at that age.... no... never... girls having babies directly after their menarche... it's unheard of.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master of 7s
Now, where would people get the idea that (certain) women don't deserve our respect?Quote:
Originally Posted by Master of 7s
Of course. :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by article
Stuff like this only goes to show you how stuck up a lot of people in our society are about our own opinions on how things are done.
It was only about 50 years ago that men marring girls about 20 to 30 years younger than them died out. It was very normal for rich and wealthy men to marry very young and pretty girls and nothing was thought ill of it. In fact it was encourged as most people thought the younger the woman the more energy she would have to pass on to her kids and to use in taking care of said kids.
We know differently now, that having children before the age of 18 can put stress on a female body and isn't good for it.
But that isn't my point. Girls and boys much younger than this boy have been marring people of the same age and of older ages for forever now. Argueing it is horrible wrong because it hurts people is retarded. History shows no such thing.
Hehe. You know you're a slut if...Quote:
Originally Posted by The_Meach
Think the kid hit the...target? :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike
The husband?
I call bullshit on this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master of 7s
Some dude on IRC told me you had a Ph.D in the Psychology of Early-Teenage Boys Who Have Sex with Teachers. That's gotta come in handy for this thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master of 7s
So this lady is supposed to be thrown in jail for 15+ years because this kid "may" have a few problems after a few years. Ridiculous. I'm sorry, but a boy getting laid when he's 14 years old doesn't qualify as a traumatic experience.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master of 7s
This isn't rape, and if you think it is, you watch too much Law & Order. In this situation, there was no threat of physical harm. The kid more than likely had the ability to rape the woman--not the other way around. If this lady is sent to jail (as that other lady was about 8 years ago), it is just stupid. That's blind adherence to moral rules with no regards to context. As though locking up a woman for raping a 14-year-old boy just as you would lock up a man for raping a 14-year-old girl is equal and just, as opposed to just simply stupid.
I hate to play the Devil's advocate here, since I would have loved for one of my hot teachers to have banged me at 14, this is clearly statutory rape. It may not have been against his will, but statutory laws exist for cases like this.Quote:
Originally Posted by flux=rad
Regardless of whether or not the boy develops any problems from these encounters, the fact remains that he is not old enough to make proper decisions about his life by law. Do you think that's unfair that we have laws to protect someone who may not fully understand the choice they are making? Is a 14 year-old fully conscious of his or her actions? What about a 12 year-old? Or an 8 year-old? Where do you draw the line? Sure, some 14 year-olds may be more mature than others, but the exceptions don't invalidate the rules and most aren't.
If we're going to have a truly equal justice system, it would be totally unfair to NOT give this woman the same punishment as a case where a man had sex a 14 year-old girl. That woman you were talking about, I forget her name, but she didn't get any jail time from what I remember, from the first case. She didn't get jail time until she went BACK to him after supposedly being rehabbed. And didn't she have a kid with him? Crazy. Shouldn't she have been locked up the first time?
To get back to where I was beforehand, though, I can't remember if any of my teachers were hot when I was 14. If they were, I wish they had ridden me like a pony.
I didn't say I think we should just let her screw the kid or anything. What she did is messed up, and we definitely shouldn't promote this kind of weirdness. And obviously I understand that what she did was illegal. My point is that the punishment should fit the crime. 15+ years would be very excessive for this kind of crime. The circumstances are not the same as they would be if a man raped a 14-year-old girl. Almost any man over 18 has the physical ability to rape a 14-year-old girl. In any situation, the man has the threat of physical harm even if it is never used. The power an adult male would have over a female minor is in almost any case far greater than an adult female over a male minor. The fact that the woman is older and is an authority figure is nothing compared to the threat of getting beaten to death.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike
Now if the woman was some dykey, butch chick, and the kid was some little scrawny pencil-neck, I'd say give the woman the same punishment as the man. Someone shouldn't use their physical superiority to coerce another into having sex (especially a minor). Which brings me to another point. I think what the kid thinks about the situation should have a good deal of merit in these cases. I mean this kid is 14 years old, that's fairly old. It's not like he's a retard. If the kid thinks he was raped, the punishment should be different from if he thought the experience was fuckin' awesome. From the story, it seems like he was into it. It's not like he was saying, "My teacher won't stop raping me! Please help!" Yeah, the kid is 14, that's pretty young. But he isn't some retarded animal, he has a fairly-evolved brain.
Our desire to have everyone equal under the law shouldn't prevent us from judging each case by its own circumstances.
Edit: That one lady actually had 2 babies from that kid I believe. I saw a documentary on her once, but can't remember her name.
In all seriousness though, why are you talking about everyone being equal under the law like its a bad thing? The punishment should fit the crime, but she shouldnt get a lesser sentence just because she's hot and because having sex with your teacher is a fantasy. Hot women get enough little perks in life, she committed a crime and she will be tried and punished by Florida law. If Florida law mandates she gets 15 years that is it.Quote:
Our desire to have everyone equal under the law shouldn't prevent us from judging each case by its own circumstances.
As I've already explained, I think that the lack of threat of physical harm makes this case much different from most child rape cases.Quote:
Originally Posted by diffusionx
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Originally Posted by flux=rad
Physical harm is just one of the circumstances. There is also mental harm as well. She could use her age and stature as leverage to coherse the student into sexual relations. It's one reason why the statutory rape law was put into effect.
I'll say this however. I would have been a 2 pump chump for that action, when I was 14. :lol:
man....my 4th grade teacher was so hot.....why cant this ever happen to me :-\
I still can't believe he turned her in. Christ, 14 year olds hate freedom.
Actually, his fat bloated, old ass aunt did the deed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr-K
Yeah, we also had some other awesome ideas back then, like slavery.Quote:
Originally Posted by IronPlant
Btw, just saw the "Do the Due" thread again and, holy fuck, you are an idiot.
Yes, all culture, behavior, and thought from the time of slavery and before mean nothing do to that one dark act. Newtonian physics mean nothing because there was slavery going on during that time. Thanks man, what would I have done with out your clear mind of logic?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tyler_Durden
We can't start prosecuting men more harshly because they're stronger and could possibly force a girl to have sex with them even if it was consensual unless you want to treat every act of consensual sex between a man and smaller, weaker woman as a possible rape.Quote:
Originally Posted by flux=rad
Also, you really don't seem to grasp the difference between rape and statutory rape.
Oh he probably gets the difference, but probably thinks one is evil and the other is not.Quote:
Originally Posted by Saint of Killers
The human body was created with the ability to have children at a far younger age than 18. Hormones kick in, causing attraction to the opposite sex and the desire to reproduce, at a far younger age than 18. It is society that decided to go against nature.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tyler_Durden
As well, in nature, there is no - so far as I know - natural instinct to create sexual "levels" by age grouping. There is no clear sign that one animal, before mating with another, checks first to make sure that said animal is of legal age. Before society decided otherwise, it would only be logical to believe that human beings existed in a similar manner. If we go simply on natural logic, and avoid any stigmas coming from society, once a person's body changed to allow for them to begin having sexual contact, there would be no reason for them to avoid sexual contact with another person at an age to also engage in sexual encounters, no matter what the age of that second person.
The reasons for this would be two. First, if a person's body can fully function sexually, logically we must conclude that they are of full ability to deal with the effects of having sex. If they aren't, then their body should not have "kicked in" yet. Second, like it or not, the reason for sex is for continuation of the species - pleasure is only a side effect. If two people are of the age and ability to reproduce, then that is the only real important point for the pairing.
The point of all of this is, even if we have decided that it isn't proper, nature says that teenagers are fully prepared for sex, and nature doesn't dictate that they should only have sex with others of their age. We, however, have decided to go against nature in this way. Equating all of that with slavery is ignorant.
I think I already covered this:Quote:
Originally Posted by gamevet
Meaning: I think the the influence most adult males have over a female minor is more than the influence a female adult would have over a male minor (over the age of 13 or so). This is simply because an adult male could kick a female minor's ass in most cases, and a female adult probably couldn't take a 14 year old boy.Quote:
Originally Posted by flux=rad
That's a cute argument and all, but I think you're struggling to understand my points. Perhaps this is my fault, perhaps not.Quote:
Originally Posted by Saint of Killers
My argument is in statutory rape cases the physical stature of the rapist should be a factor in determining punishment. Statutory rape is about coercion. The threat of getting your ass kicked or killed is more serious coercion than respect or fear of an authority figure. Your argument that the implementation of this would have an effect on every female-male sexual encounter is ridiculous, but I think you already know that. This would only have a bearing on adult-minor sexual encounters, since the presupposition is that individuals under a certain age are unable to give consent to have sex and understand the consequences.
Are you sure about that? Isn't it part of nature to subjugate those weaker than you?Quote:
The point of all of this is, even if we have decided that it isn't proper, nature says that teenagers are fully prepared for sex, and nature doesn't dictate that they should only have sex with others of their age. We, however, have decided to go against nature in this way. Equating all of that with slavery is ignorant.
Because, you know, slavery didnt start in 1620 Colonial America - it was part of civilization from day one.
I have a point in saying that. See, we live in an age where things other than nature or instinct guide us. Things like logic, rational, and reason. Just because something is part of nature doesnt mean it should be accepted. Just because slavery or a 30 year old fucking a 15 year old is part of nature doesnt mean it is right or should be part of society.
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Originally Posted by diffusionx
Is slavery really a "natural" instinct, though? I think that's be a big point to argue. Sex, obviously, is. If you take two children, raise them together but in total isolation otherwise, they won't need any outside influence to come across the idea of sex. Sex existed long before any sort of social order, morals, logic, or rational did.
Slavery, however, I'd argue came about by means of society. Society is what created the idea of "better than" or "less than" - there were now leaders, workers, etc., as well as a social order in which a person could be put into a situation where they could truly be enslaved. Sure, before that, you had the stronger ones who becames leaders, in the same way you have a "leader of the pack" among a group of animals, but that doesn't really create a situation where true slavery can be created.
I'd say that that is a tough point to argue. Who can say that human logic is better than nature? Sure, it creates a world in which, hopefully, things work smoother, safer, and with less hardship. But I can't begin to say that the way we were created, and the natural instincts that we were given, are wrong. That, to me, would be very arrogant of humans. Who are we to say that nature is "wrong" and that our idea of what is right indeed is?Quote:
I have a point in saying that. See, we live in an age where things other than nature or instinct guide us. Things like logic, rational, and reason. Just because something is part of nature doesnt mean it should be accepted. Just because slavery or a 30 year old fucking a 15 year old is part of nature doesnt mean it is right or should be part of society.
I'm not dissing society - society has brought us a lot of great things. And, I'm pretty sure that I wouldn't want to live like my far-distant forefathers did. But, at the same time, as I said above, I feel that society has also allowed the creation of ideas such as slavery. In nature, you can't have slavery, police states, censorship, all of those kinds of ideas. Scary future ideas such as the Matrix, 1984, or whatnot all come about on the shoulders of society.
Actually, evolution says that there is indeed a better than or a less than, with regards to survival. Its pretty clear cut.Quote:
Slavery, however, I'd argue came about by means of society. Society is what created the idea of "better than" or "less than" - there were now leaders, workers, etc., as well as a social order in which a person could be put into a situation where they could truly be enslaved.
Also, it is part of nature to form groups, known as "societies". All animals do it. And animals do have clear-cut heirarchies. So you're getting into a weird argument here.
We're not saying that. What we are saying, though, is that there is more than just "human nature" and "human instincts" to guide us. We have the power of rational thought and we channel this in a number of different ways. To not do this would mean that all we rely on is instinct, and that would put us at the same level of beasts.Quote:
Who are we to say that nature is "wrong" and that our idea of what is right indeed is?
Blame the enlightenment if you want. But this is how it is.
slavery was birthed from both man's base desires and his higher intellect. It is the result of man's lazziness and greed, and put into action by his mind and ability to reason. The problem that caused it came from the dark parts of the human heart, his solution came from his mind. There is no instinct to imprison your fellow man and force him in to labor, such a thing was thought out and through more thought put into action.
The biggest slave owning societies have been the most enlightenend and powerful cultures in the world. Egypt, Rome, Europe, and the U.S. The list of slave owning cultures reads like a whos who of history.
It was not through logic and reason that slavery was cast out of modern day life. It was through man's love for his fellow man, the part of the human heart that knows said things are wrong that it was finally decided to be immoral. The books and papers that spread antislavery sentimenent where not written in a logical manner. They where exagerated fictional stories, like Uncle Tom's Caben, that called on the emotions of the reader.
Slavery is wrong because we "just" know it is. The idea that it is wrong isn't a novel idea, a thought, or argument.
"Right" and "wrong" are concepts that we learn from our environments. The reason that slavery was removed from our lives is due to our relating to slaves. ie we see something in ourselves that are also in the slaves, then we feel bad when something that happens to them that we wouldn' want happening to us. Best example of the idea I am trying to say is presented in "a time to kill" by John grisham where the jury was pretty much going to sentence the guy to get hanged until at the very end where the lawyer gets the jury to feel the events as if it would happen to them, which was the reason why the lawyer took the case in the first place.Quote:
Originally Posted by IronPlant
I mean, if slavery was wrong, horse riding, having pets and the like would also be wrong. While people today don't see huge problems with zoos, sooner or later some hippy movement will try and ban zoos outright.
Though reason may have gotten people to realize that the people they where enslaveing where in fact human beings just like them, the idea that such treatment of you're fellow man is wrong is still a concreate concept that comes from inside people. At some point reason and logic end, and the being that uses reason and logic starts. There has to be some starting lump of stuff to cause/make reason and logic in the first place. There is a starting point, regardless if it is malleable.Quote:
Originally Posted by Damian79
No, because horses, pets and other animals are not human. People deep down seak to prolong their own lives and the life of their species, not the lives of those things that exist outside of their species. Ofcorse you have people who have brainfarts and consider their species "all living things". Damn dirty hippies.Quote:
Originally Posted by Damian79
Unfortunately, she'll have to do the time cuz ya know, it's all about being "equal" nowadays.
Rape is about coercion. Statutory rape is about having sex with someone under the age of 18.Quote:
Originally Posted by flux=rad
What idoit made that law?Quote:
Originally Posted by Saint of Killers
http://www.rotten.com/library/sex/pe...ay-letourneau/
note: vili was a talented artist indeed. the husband struck me as an ass, they fought alot. i was in that class. i sat next to that kid. She was my favorite teacher.
Wow, way to completely miss the point.Quote:
Originally Posted by AstroBlue
I have a B.A. in psychology.Quote:
Originally Posted by flux=rad
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Originally Posted by flux=rad
Yes.
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Ridiculous. I'm sorry, but a boy getting laid when he's 14 years old doesn't qualify as a traumatic experience.
Got a degree in psychology do you?
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Originally Posted by flux=rad
Women do not have immunity to the law just because they are women. There is obviously something wrong with the mind of someone who has sex with a child. No fourteen-year-old has the cognitive ability to make an informed and consenting decision to engage in something as significant in life as sex. Without proper counseling, the warped ideas this child now has about
sex and intamacy will only become further warped and dangerous.
Just because we were all hornballs who wanted to screw everything with a hole when we were younger doesn't mean we could've handled the emotional consequences from engaging in the act.
teh borked after reading that Vili article.
Wow.Quote:
Originally Posted by shidoshi
Yeah, teenagers are physically ready to have sex. But we live in a society where you need to be more than just physically ready. You need to be able to fully understand what it is that you're undertaking - diseases, birth control, abortion, emotional attachments, etc. I think I can safely say that the majority of people under 18 are NOT ready to be having sex because they don't really understand everything that goes with it and aren't responsible enough to do it safely. They may think they understand, since when you're 18 you know everything, but they don't. That's not to say that most people over 18 are ready, but 18 is the age where the average person is graduating and thinking of college, so there is supposed to be more responsibility and understanding of oneself then.
Do you think the possibility of her getting pregnant even went through his mind? Does it go through the minds of most teens when they're screwing? I highly doubt it. How about sexual disease? Do you think he considered that he might become tired of her and she might stalk him? Possibly harm him? Just because none of this stuff happened or will happen in this case doesn't mean that she didn't take advantage of this young boy. If he turns out fine, that's great. But if he gets messed up and goes all Emo or something, that sucks.
And you're scaring me, too: decided to go against nature. That's like, the same type of thing a pedophile says to justify his/her actions.
Who the hell brought up slavery?
You must have missed the thread about the ten year old who slit a classmates thoat where Shidoshi posted that she was hot and he liked his girls a little psycho. He's a pedo.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike
True, but is it a crime? Is one party who should know better doing other wise worth severial years of jail time? And if the rest of what you say is so wrong it sounds like we should be jailing anyone under 30 for having sex. If him not knowing better, or not being mature is what makes this wrong, why are we not jailing the few billion american kids that sneak off the bang during PE in highschool? If it really causes the mental problems you guys speak of then something should be done.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike
Tyler was trying to be cute. Because you know, if people believe or do one bad thing during a time period, everything else is bad and wrong too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike
Being rude much?Quote:
Originally Posted by Master of 7s
If haveing sex when you are 14 tramitizes kids then that must be what is wrong with this country. Everyone has lost their minds becuase they were tramatized as teenagers because they got lucky with Sandy Monroe on the Bus on their way to the next football game.
For someone who has a B.A. in psychology you are failing to admit that not all people are the same, and that something that screws one kid up will slide right by another kid.
At thirteen, they know the consequences but rather they let their hormones take over. I mean, if a thirteen year old killed someone you know there muct have been something wrong WAY before that, I mean at roughly 10 or below. Human behaviour isn't that simple.
Though I do get that the kids may repect women less, but I don't think it would be of the kind that results in rape.