This is why Madden 2005 has improved defense.Quote:
Originally Posted by gamevet
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This is why Madden 2005 has improved defense.Quote:
Originally Posted by gamevet
It took them 14 years to realise this? :bang:Quote:
Originally Posted by Roufuss
The breakaway plays have been a staple of Madden football, going all the way back to the Genesis versions.
Mamoscott: I had no idea the game was designed for Xbox, but good it seems like some people are listening to me.
From working at EB for so long, I can gather what will happen: people will pick up ESPN NFL 2005 for $20, play it for a few weeks, then trade it in for $5 and get Madden 2005. And all the pre-owned games will just rot on the shelf forever. It will be used as a warming up for Madden if anything. Even if the game is every bit as good as Madden, which it wont be, people will still play Madden because EA has turned it into something with tons of brand loyalty.
Sega has wasted so many millions of dollars on establishing the game as a competitor to Madden and has failed spectacularly in doing so. Resorting to low prices and hurried release dates is their, or Take 2's or whoever's, last stand. A really wise decision on their part will be just to sell Visual Concepts and move on.
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Originally Posted by diffusionx
Competition is good. It's good for people to have options even if most people swear by Madden.
The day Visual Concepts stops making games it will be a sad day, because EA will have a monopoly on video game sports.
Support Visual Concepts. Buy ESPN NFL 2005.
GameFreak that is so true.Quote:
Originally Posted by GameFreak
I wonder if all these people who bash Visual Concepts & SEGA ESPN 2005 realize that Visual Concepts designed some of the classic Genesis Maddens.
The Madden/EA Sports brain lock is something so powerful it can decide console wars. It is more powerful then the FORCE itself. If a system doesn't have Madden it is destined to fail. It is almost getting to the point were its Madden on Playstation or nothing else. I'm not saying the SEGA series is overall better than Madden. They both out perform the other in varying areas. But, the amount of people who simply dismiss the SEGA series every year is mind boggling.
It's like saying well each Final Fantasy is the best RPG, so I'm not going to bother playing any of the others. For goodness sakes the game is $20. To get a game of this quality for $20 at launch is a steal. At least play it before you claim it to pale in comparison to Madden. The significant game play changes for sports games can't be judged by screen shots.
People seem to forget the year EA didn't publish Madden because of the Gameday commercial. They saw the graphics for Gameday in their commercial, and EA was putting out such a rehash version of Madden they thought it would be best not to publish the game at all. You best believe it Madden rules unchecked all we will see is essentially roster updates.
Why? I and many others think the game is better than Madden - most every reviewer considers the two series equal -Quote:
Originally Posted by diffusionx
Gamerankings Averages:
ESPN NFL 2K4: 89.3 %
Madden 2004: 89.1 %
Sega makes mad cash from their sports games - they're advertising vehicles. Check out the in-stadium ads from Wilson, Adidas & others, not to mention Sega's own stuff - 2K4 had unlockable Virtua Fighter characters as players, posters & soundtracks from other Sega games like JGR. Their sports lineup allows them access to a huge market they'd never otherwise see through things like sponsoring NCAA bowl games. Their NBA series does very well for them, and is unquestionably better than Live. They'd be insane to just give up on their sports properties just because they're second in the most lucrative market in gaming.
Personally, I've always liked 2K better for its more realistic look over Madden's cartoony players, and its overall lack of John Madden buffoonery. So I'm thrilled Sega's basically going to just save me $30 on a game I would have bought anyway. The fact that they're overhauling the thing just makes it that much sweeter.
They've been doing that for years now. Sega got pissed about it last year too.Quote:
You know the situation's bad when ESPN SportsCenter is running a 4-part series on videogame sports and theyre showing all Electronic Arts games (well, and Midway for SlugFest)... yes, this includes Madden.
Heh, I won't jump all over you like Mamo did, but this year's 2K is going to make Madden like like a PS1 game. Check out the video Gamespot's got on this page.Quote:
Originally Posted by diffusionx
Have you ever seen anything like those close up jerseys? I mean, the thing just looks spectacular:
http://xboxmedia.ign.com/xbox/image/...242894-000.jpg
And supposedly they have Suzy Kolber doing post game player interviews - I have no idea how they'll pull that off.
Heck, IGN even says "it's shaping up to be one of the best sports games of all time." Even if you write that off as IGN being IGN, all signs point to good things.
Originally Posted by diffusionx
The game is being hurried out the door at a low price. It's screaming shovelware. Normally when a game comes out in this arrangement its some budget PC title like Cabela's Big Game Hunter 2005 or Trailer Park Tycoon and TNL just laughs at it. I doubt it will be much better than last year's release.
So wrong. I've never seen you be this wrong, head on over to gametrailers.com son. Check out the V.I.P. system while you're at it. See if Madden ever tries something so cool.
Finally someone else has the right idea too. Madden has always been cartoony, while the Sega games have always pushed for more and more realism. This goes for a lot of the EA vs. Sega games, and another reason I've always liked the Sega ones more. Although there are exceptions, I remember playing NBA 2k2 that one of my roommate's one year of college had, and it looked MUCH more cartoony than my 2k1 on Dreamcast. Maybe it was just in my head since I hadn't played my Dreamcast in a while since I sold it, but to me, it looked more cartoony. The gameplay was still there, though, so I still enjoyed it.Quote:
Originally Posted by StriderKyo
Read my previous post again. The price point is designed to get people to try an alternative football game, and even if people pick up ESPN and trade it back in after a few weeks, then Take Two's "early release/budget price" strategy is still doing exactly what it was designed to do. The point is that they're exposing gamers to a football title other than EA's game, and if most people use it as just a "warm up" for Madden, that's still an infinitely better scenario than almost everyone ignoring the ESPN series entirely and just waiting for Madden's release.Quote:
Originally Posted by diffusionx
lol, I don't know why you guys are even trying to present actual information to diff. It's so obvious that he has absolutely no idea about either ESPN or Madden. Seriously, I'm not even going to say anything in ESPN's defense --it's not warranted for anyone who knows anything about either of these games-- I'll just let the games themselves do the talking:
http://image.com.com/gamespot/images..._screen004.jpg
http://image.com.com/gamespot/images..._screen005.jpg
http://image.com.com/gamespot/images..._screen001.jpg
http://image.com.com/gamespot/images..._screen003.jpg
http://www.operationsports.com/image...2005xbox39.jpg
http://www.espnvideogames.com/_img/s...2k5_ff1_08.jpg
http://image.com.com/gamespot/images..._screen002.jpg
http://www.espnvideogames.com/_img/s...2k5_ff1_33.jpg
Yeah.
Right. So, diff, what was that about ESPN being shovelware? Nice one, man.