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I've done the vampire quest, and just got done with taking care of the fire ants. Going melee is really hard you take soo much damage. I'm gonna advance the main story a bit and head over to the radio station now at least, I'm almost level 7. Definitely a very good game though. The queen was fun because I lured 2 of her protectors into her room, shot off their antennae and then ran and let them die by her hands.
Ones in Paradise Falls are in the leader's place. Look around and you should find them. For Old Olney, the truck never made it. Follow the road, and you should find the truck.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sinista
You have to mix melee and explosives to make the most of both. Those! is also the hardest quest in the game to do as a melee character thanks to their fire breath.
I finally got my 360 back and I have Saints Row 2, Fable 2 and Fallout 3 to play.
I started Fallout 3 but I am honestly so intimidated by it, so I'll play Fable 2 first.
dUgh I can't find my way to the GNC station, every path is blocked, is there a particular underground I should be going through? As much fun as it is fighting hundreds of raiders and super master mutants with rocket launchers (And the fight I had with them was pretty awesome) I'd like to get somewhere. Also is there any real point to the national gaurd depo other than using every pulse grenade I have?
edit: mah bad thought you meant GNR.
No I did, I have no clue why I said GNC.
Kek... in that case
There is a metro station right after you cross the river north east/east of super dupa market or whatever it is called, you will noticed there is a few raiders fighting some super mutants, right where the raiders are, there is a metro station, take that one make sure you have GNR marked and follow the arrows a bit and you should be there, IIRC you will exit at a place or something named chavy chase.
edit: Eyes open in the tunnels lots of raiders and mines IE lootbags and mines to pick up and use/sell later.
Ah ok I ended up getting lost because I was just kept going through a bunch of different tunnels and fighting super mutants everywhere. At this point I've got Sneak up to like 60, small guns up to 60, and melee at 50. I'm really disappointed in the Lady Killer and Child at heart perks, I love interesting dialog and this game just lacks it sometimes I was hoping that would highlight some cool options but I've only seen Lady Killer usable twice and Child at Heart once.
But watching your opponents body's splinter as you land a critical hit in Vats never ever gets old. And I had an awesome fight against 4 super mutants, one being a master where I was holed up on the second floor of a house (They couldn't get to me) with a master with a missle launcher up on the third floor of a building you can't get up to. So lots of duck and cover, and when I finally killed it the game was feeling charitable I guess, and launched the body over to me so I could loot some missles.
I haven't picked child at heart myself, but I understand it can be handy once you hit rivet city. Spoilers ahead regarding child at heart perk.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thief Silver
There is a brat in Rivet City with child at heart perk and maybe some high speech, a dialog will open for you to let the child steal ammo for you, think it was repeatable so it's a good way to get ammo later on
Getting to GNR is a huge pain in the ass no matter how you do it.
I ended up going overland because the tunnels sucked dick. They're boring.
I walked all the way around the other side of D.C. and came down from the North, and even then since D.C. is a maze aboveground it took me a while to figure it out.
That is the only quest that takes any amount of serious time though, and the only one that is remotely difficult to complete (because of the difficulty in getting there) so you might as well cherish it.
You don't really need to even do that quest. While trying to get there the first time I stumbled across the next part of the story quest. It's in the jefferson memorial
Once I get the .iso mounted, I'll be playing this shit today.
As a careerless college grad, I shall enjoy the shit out of this game!
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Originally Posted by Cowutopia
I found the survival one taking a long time, 3 chapters each chapter with 3 different missions, while some were piss easy but a few of them sends you first far away north and then far away south. The reward after is good though, you can get a very good perk, but so many influences that it is almost impossible to aim for the best one to fit your char.
I think the difficult part of the GNR is outside, you know behemoth and you need to be careful how you kill it with the fatman not to kill some members of the brotherhood of steel with your mini mushroom explosion
That said, sorry if this has been posted here before. But check out codename Van Buren
Good stuff there. Enjoy.Quote:
Van Buren was the project name Black Isle Studios assigned to their version of Fallout 3.
The game was going to use an engine that Black Isle had made for Baldur's Gate 3, commonly referred to as the Jefferson Engine. It was fully 3D.
Mirelurks are such a pain in the ass.
Well grenades and mines take care of them easily, but should one surprised you and you happened to have a combat shotgun, don't bother with VATS, go FPS mode on it's ass and shoot it in the head, usually they kinda lean back a bit before thrusting forward, that's where you go BOOM HEADSHOT proceed to loot, works like a charm every time, and saves me a lot of bullets and stimpack as you pretty much one shot them.
I never used a fatman.
Yeah, the survival quest is probably the longest quest but since it was broken up into many different objectives I never thought of it as one big quest.
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Originally Posted by Thief Silver
Agreed, they are annoying as hell.
kill them with fire ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Thief Silver
Or, take some Med-X & Psycho (plus maybe Jet; drugs are your friend), wait for Mirelurks to rush you, then crouch, VATS, and shotgun them in the face.
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Originally Posted by AaronChance
Thank God the truck never made it to Old Olney. That's the one place in the game I never explored, aside from the WH. Fuck those Deathclaws.
Started this and played for about an hour and I came to a single conclusion:
This game looks like ass on my computer. My comp will have trouble running this all the way through and playing at 800x600 when I have a HD tv behind me is just stupid. I no longer use a gaming computer and so, I uninstalled and will go out and get the x360 version or play my friend's ps3 version
get the 360 version. the ps3 version seems to enjoy crashing.
I was leaning towards the 360 version because, even though I'd have to pay for it as opposed to sharing time with my roommate and his ps3, the x360 controller is just infinitely better than all controllers ever.Quote:
Originally Posted by Error
If you have done the replicated man quest getting both rewards or at least the A3-21 Plasma rifle it's possible to kill those nasty Deathclaws with a single head-shot with better crits perk. Probably with high sneak skills/stealth boy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Melf
The Plasma looks sick also and easy to maintain as it barely gets damaged and you can repair it with simple plasma guns which are easy to get.
Edit:Also another reason to get the x360 version over the ps3 is obvious so far the expansion packs haven't been announced for the ps3 version or rather as far as I know. P.C version still have a huge advantage though, with some buggy quests you can reset it and try again. D:
One problem with V.A.T.S that I've had to wean myself of is that I can kill shit just as easy outside of it. Yesterday I had the sniper rifle and I was using Vats, and eventually just said fuck it and destroyed the 6 super mutants that were trying to kill me, whoops.
Three Dog is cool.
I find the sniper rifle useless. The scope looks ahead like 50ft and the range is barely better than the normal guns.
I was one shotting super mutants out of Vats with head shots so meh.
The Experimental MIRV is fucking bad ass!
It's quite useful, so long as you stay in Sneak mode, use the scope, and aim for the head. It's very situation-dependent, though. The Lincoln Repeater still beats it.Quote:
Originally Posted by stormy
Sneak Attack Criticals FTW.
The Lincoln Repeater is bad ass. I sold all sniper/hunting rifles as soon as I found it and it was a great decision.
I went with the Hunting Rifle, Chinese Assault Rifle, Combat Shotgun (The Terrible Shotgun later) and later the Plasma Rifle during my first play-through.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pineapple
I found that all were easy to repair as they were plentiful but the Hunting Rifle decreased in its usefulness later as the enemies got stronger.
did anyone find the MIRV experimental *8x nuke launcher?
I didn't know it existed until I watched an inside xbox special!
I've been playing again as a science/sneak/lockpick character.
Even with gun skills in the 20s I can dominate with any firearm. Sure I miss more than my other character (with maxed small guns) but the weapons, even the big guns like the fatman, are deadly.
The skills and the effectiveness of items that use them should curve more steeply. IIRC the first Fallout made it nearly impossible to kill something when your skill with the weapon was low (emerging from the vault and getting killed by rats because you can't hit one with your gun and are too stupid to use the knife).
Hell, when in a pinch I have trouble NOT selecting the assault rifle and mowing things down. I have to dump the guns (excepting the 10mm pistol) to make it SEEM like I can't use them. Lame. If I wanted to imagine I was helpless with a weapon I'd play a stupid PNP game.
I still <3 it though. Fun as hell to just kill people who annoy you after playing as a goodie-good the first time.
I just fucked up the Enclave at Raven Rock. I think I'm near the end. I realize that the ending sucks according to everyone, but I don't get the complaints about the story. I worked on the main quest for about 6 hours today and couldn't put it down. The story is great.
I'm not sure if I should beat the game and then play more side quests from a save file or hold off on the ending till I feel like I've done all I'm going to do in the rest of it.
You'll see.
1) it's really, really short if you just do the main quest.
2) the ending really sucks.
You can't play more after the ending. Split your saves.
The game makes a hard save for you before the point of no return. No worries.
I'm kind of glad I didn't buy this game after reading through it. Lame dialogue and a bland world deflates the Fallout-ness of the game. I'll probably try it next year whenever the price drops significantly. With a world of gray and brown you really need to make your characters and dialogue be centre-stage. And without that I know I'd just be bored stiff. They dropped SPECIAL too, I guess to simplify the world for console gamers. I'm so conflicted.
It's still there, just highly modified. And not for the better.Quote:
Originally Posted by Drewbacca
Liberty Prime walked half way across the first bridge and stopped (where the mortars are getting shot to). He won't go any further. I walked the whole way to the Jefferson Memorial but I couldn't get in the barriers once I got there. What is the problem?
Megaton got punched.
Stormy you might have to just reload your save, that sounds like a glitch.
It was. I reloaded and he walked across the bridge fine. Stupid robot.Quote:
Originally Posted by animegirl
The ending wasn't so bad, although it could have been more interactive. I hate endings where you die. They should have changed the ocean to fresh water and let you keep playing.
nice video AG, anyone know where i can find that song? I really like it :)
It's Sigur Ros "Saeglopur". Sigur Ros is awesome and one of my fav bands. Here is the official video:Quote:
Originally Posted by Elkino1
Stormy I had the same glitch first time I tried that quest.
Thanks!! you are the best! :portalhug:Quote:
Originally Posted by animegirl
Sometimes the sniper delivers some entertainment moments with bloody mess perk. I was exploring around, came across an armory depot place with some raiders, there was one raider at top of the building had like a fat man or so on, went into sneak mode fired a shot at him from afar must have hit him the shoulders/arm, the guy just disintegrate.Quote:
Originally Posted by stormy
Btw I was reading something about the wasteland survival guide, it seems if you have a high speech skill, you can convince Moira not to do it, you do get negative karma though and less rewards and less xp, but you do get a very nice perk. Dream Crusher perk which reduces enemies chance to critical hit you by 50%, and you get 30% discount at Moira's store and you increase her repair skills.
Yeah I had the option but I wanted to finish the quest instead.
So I've been playing through the game, drudging along and honestly wish I hadn't bought the game yet. I shoulda waited until the price dropped. I don't know what it is but the game is barely keeping my interest to the point where I may just blast through the main quest. I wasn't sure what it really was but someone made a great point about what really hurts this game:
And while the world is alright, I dunno it's not special enough that I'm really drawn to it. I'm gonna try to do most the side quests regardless but I dunno this game is just a bit disappointing. Still a good game.Quote:
The loot.
Fallout 3, huge as it is, is almost entirely swag-free. Oh, there are a few unique weapons and a handful of stat-boosting bobbleheads, but by and large when you're exploring a dungeon, it's just to find enough ammo or healing items to get you through that dungeon and into the next one. There's no real material reward built into the game. You find caps (the game's currency), but what is there to buy? More ammo, more healing items, and a few knick knacks for your house. Yawn.
It would have also helped if there was some variety to the locations, which became predictable way too fast. Except the Dunwich Building, which I thought was awesome (Lovecraft!).
Some rare monster hunts would have been great too, beyond the Behemoths. Something like FFXII's hunting club.
Once you've seen one random dungeon, you've seen them all. Not enough enemy variety either.
You could make these same complaints about the other fallouts but...there's more to do outside of dungeons.
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Originally Posted by BioMechanic
I must find this.
Scout the SW section of the map, sleeve - south of the Pop & Gas Stop. Lovecraft fans will get a kick out of that place!
I believe i will start this game once i beat prince of persia :o
It's a cool place in its design, but don't expect much Lovecraft. Oblivion did much better with it's little reference.Quote:
Originally Posted by sleeve
It also should have been called Pickman's House:
Call it the Dunwich House and have nothing to do with Dunwich Horror? Bleh.
"Real" Pip-Boy shown at CES 2009
Shit got serious, got OLED on it. Looks pretty cool, there is a vid on joystiq.com showing it. Now about that VATS.....
Ninjas can't catch you when in VATS mode
I had a dream there was this ant hill in my room that was spouting out ants that were just a bit bigger than normal. And they were as annoying as fuck and nearly impossible to kill. And finally I killed them somehow but a week later multicolored giant ants started coming out of the ant hill. I think the whole dream is telling me to play more Fallout.
:lol:
"Multicolored giant ants"
Your dream would have been legendary material if somehow you were killing them in a VATS~ish way.
They were fucking impossible to kill. I'm pretty sure one of them threw me when I stepped on it.
You should have shot a mandible off one of them.
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Following the release of Operation: Anchorage this month, Bethesda will put out The Pitt in February, giving players the chance to explore the bombed-out ruins of Pittsburgh in what Gardiner called a "more 'traditional' Fallout 3 quest," and then in March will unleash Broken Steel, new content which will actually extend the game's story and raise the level cap to 30. "We felt there's no harm in letting the player enjoy the game as long as they'd like, and so along with removing the game's 'ending' with Broken Steel, we figure raising the level cap would allow them to do that," he said. "We plan on raising it to level 30 - but it will be a long, hard climb to get there!"
"Broken Steel not only extends the game to level 30, it alters the core ending," he continued. "It allows the player to continue exploring the ashen Wasteland and see the fruits that are born, or that die, from their decisions. It will reprise several main characters, and conclude some of the story threads left dangling."
Wow. That's a pretty fast retcon.
That DLC should have been in the retail release. I hate it when developers pull stunts like this. No sale for me.
Mmm free DLC yum yum. I'm not gonna beat the game until after that comes out.
I'm usually the first to whine about premium DLC but arguing that Fallout 3 wasn't a full game at release is silly. I've gotten more than my money's worth with this one. The DLC looks rad.Free? No sir.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thief Silver
Since when does PC cost money for DLC? Or is it because it's a window's live game that they have to charge? In which case fuck ever buying a Window's live game again.
Oblivion for PC did the same thing. I don't know why you're so surprised.
Only a very few companies release significant free DLC these days.
Bleh fuck new games.
I am not sure here, but was the ones for Oblivion about $10? I seem to remember they were priced higher when they came out. In that case I am curious how much the last DLC will cost for Fallout 3, the one where the lvl cap goes up, will it be 800mps ($10) or the same price a full expansion pack costs..IIRC around +$25..Quote:
Originally Posted by epmode
Definitely didn't enjoy this game remotely enough to spend another $25 on it. Especially not to have them rewrite the game lol. SO basically it sounds like they had to make up an ending because it wasn't going to ship on time.
Yeah, I have plenty of issues with Fallout 3 but incompleteness isn't one of them. I must have put at least 100 hours into it by now, with the first playthrough lasting at least 65 hours alone.
The early level cap doesn't strike you guys as a symptom of incompleteness? As in Bethesda knew it was going to release this content after the game hit retail?
It's pretty obvious that the level cap comes (far) too early, and that DLC was probably going to extend it. This means the retail release wasn't the full game, right?
You certainly can get plenty of mileage out of the box, but I think the cap should have been much higher.
And then rewriting the ending? WTF is that about? This
now makes the retail-release ending....not the end, doesn't it? Hence, incomplete. Extra side missions are one thing, but this is something else.Quote:
"It allows the player to continue exploring the ashen Wasteland and see the fruits that are born, or that die, from their decisions."
Without this content, you're not getting the full experience.
I liked the game, but this ticks me off.
TBH even if it was lvl 30 from start, it still would have been too low for me. I have about 45 hours in the game right now, I have done so much exploration I barely did main quests or side quests and I am already lvl 14.. I don't feel the game is incompleteness, I just feel like you get to the cap lvl so fast, it feels like a joke. That is one of the issue I have with the game.Quote:
Originally Posted by BioMechanic
I think you'd barely make it to level 30 honestly, you're overestimating that a bit. It's really not that fast. To have put in 45 hours and be level 14, that's a lot of fucking time.
If you put perks into levelling abilities you'll hit it much faster. I tried to stay away from those perks and managed to finish the main story without hitting level 20.
But if you just did the main story alone, I bet you could finish it under level 10.
45 hours of exploration and killing very few little things here and there and didn't even do 11 quests and already lvl 14. (Ignore the time stamp) I don't recall playing an rpg killing a few things in my path, basically getting lil xp here and there and yet be almost at the lvl cap.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thief Silver
If I have done a few more quests (main or side quests) I would have been lvl 20 ages ago.
Did anyone just play the main quest though? To do that means you're missing the whole point of the experience, which is to explore and adventure. I didn't use any of the level perks and it took me quite a while to reach level 20.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cowutopia
This new DLC has me excited. I really want to keep playing this game.
I think I finished at level 16.
Exploring is fun until you realize there's hardly anything interesting to find.
Didn't Fallout 1 cap at 18 or 20? And Fallout 2 at 24? Yeah no, not incompleteness at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by BioMechanic
fallout 1 capped at 21.
After the 3rd DLC drops for the 360 and PC, you will be able to play after the end game. Not so for the PS3 rev.
http://www.joystiq.com/2009/01/26/be...-for-end-game/
When the third DLC scenario for Fallout 3, "Broken Steel," hits Xbox 360 and PC in March, it will replace the game's current ending, which doesn't allow players to keep on exploring the Capitol Wasteland post "end-game." This is something we've known since last November; what we didn't realize is that PS3 players -- already missing out on any DLC action -- will continue to be stuck with the current "brick wall" ending.
When asked by MTV Multiplayer if there were plans to patch the PS3 version of Fallout 3 for end-game play, Todd Howard, the game's executive producer, responded, "Not at this time, no." Howard has also remarked that Bethesda "really underestimated how many people would want to keep playing [past the ending]," and that Fallout 3 was "probably the last time we'll do something like that."
In case nobody noticed, Operation Anchorage is out on the live marketplace. PS3 dudes are left out of the cold.
When does the DLC hit PC?
It's out now. You have to buy it through the Windows Live interface, using MS points.
From what I've read, you might want to avoid it: http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/fa...chorage-review
That guy had to work really hard to fill up two pages.
What's with this VR MGS style bullshit? I don't want blinking bodies. $10 for roughly two hours? Lol.
I'd bet a lot of money you've paid $60 for less than 12 hours.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dyne
I have also heard bad things. Does this increase the level cap though?
Not this one. The Pitts won't either. Broken Steel is supposed to lift the cap to 30 though.
I bought it, I like it, fuck yourself.
Gonna pick this up tomorrow most likely, considering my free time lately I'm kinda relieved it's only about 2 hours.
I'm buying this after I get off of work. Moar Fallout!
Are there more achievements?
100pts of Achievements 4u2c. They're easy too, complete the quest and you'll get them.
You'd bet wrong. I refuse to pay $60 for games.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yoshi
I'm going to wait on this, just in case Bethesda pulls an Oblivion on us and releases all the DLC on disc. It pissed me off that I bought Knights of the Nine separate, only to see it included on the Shivering Isles disc that was $25 used.
Portal and World of Good were like $20 for four hours.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dyne
I didn't buy either of those.
Look, you've spent $10 to watch a movie in the theaters, stop making this difficult.
I heard you can only play it once. So you might want to use a guide to get the things you have to collect. Otherwise you'll miss the perk.
That review was dead on. Operation Anchorage was not worth $10 or the time it takes to play through it (brief as it is). Just a short and uneventful mission.
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Originally Posted by Frogacuda
Not trying to make anything difficult. The most expensive movies here are only $7.50.
Lies.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dyne