So all this boils down to is "hey I read some shit in a book, fuck off" ?
So all this boils down to is "hey I read some shit in a book, fuck off" ?
It boils down to, "Im wasting my time trying to explain it to you, so learn it on your own and leave me alone."
You are one seriously arrogant fuck. This is the shit I was talking about.
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Originally Posted by diffusionx
IMO as long as you don't buy second hand games and try to sell it off as brand new(I have seen it in some stores), it is okay as a consumer knows what he is getting.
While we are on the supply and demand topic do you give a little extra than normal when a second hand game is in demand?
In general I always like to go to those mom'n'pop stores as they generally atleast do that. But they have a serious lack of PC games usually(a real lack of demand I suppose) which I am a big fan of so I am forced to go to the bigger stores like "Games Wizards" here in Australia.
EB usually gives 25-30 dollars on a brand new (as in, just came out in the last week or so) game. On games EB or Gamestop think are rare, they also give more trade in value.Quote:
Originally Posted by Damian79
It's really hard to argue on the Internet with someone who has no understanding of logic.
With that, how can people really bitch that much about this?Quote:
Originally Posted by Roufuss
Here in Australia, we get 1/4 of the current sale price regardless of rarity or demand from the big stores. I am talking ~$15 for a game that is a week old.
You guys probably aren't going to appreciate it till you go to another country and see how it is there.
On the flipside, some games EB won't give much on at all. I know my friend tried to trade in Front Mission 3, and got offered a whopping one whole dollar for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Damian79
I like buying things for low prices, and selling things for high prices. Everything else be damned, that's what it boils down to for me.
The same could be said for someone who doesn't know anything outside of a text book.Quote:
Originally Posted by sleeveboy
I regret posting my story about explaining supply/demand to dumbass customers.
It's robbed me of a potentially cool thread with lots of great 'retail retard' stories. :cry:
Especially if you're forced to explain it to dumbass posters.Quote:
Originally Posted by The_Meach
God you are an arragant asshole. A person takes one Econ class and they know everything about business. Why dont you change majors, apparently you're a wiz at this shit.Quote:
Originally Posted by diffusionx
One person doesnt bother to study shit, doesnt listen to anything anybody says, thinks they know everything, and then calls another person arrogant. Unbelievable.Quote:
Originally Posted by IronPlant
"Alright leeches, I want you all to meet our newest writer, Abraham Simpson. He's got something you couldn't get at your fancy schools...REAL LIFE EXPERIENCE!"Quote:
Originally Posted by IronPlant
I admitted that it does have to do with suply in demand, and I have never acted like I know everything on the issue. You're the one who refuses to yeild at all that your over simplified concepts are a tad off and not the only option for a business.Quote:
Originally Posted by diffusionx
Welcome to capitalism. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by IronPlant
And you fail to understand that "sells, specials, freebies, and lower prices, bad politics, area manapolies, and complete bullshit" are just manipulations of these basic concepts. "sells", freebies, specials, and lower prices can be thrown into the lot of raising demand, and bad politics, area "manapolies", and complete bullshit can be thrown into affecting supply.
You do a lot of this in yes, an intro to economics course. For example you look at rent controls, and see how the supply and demand curve gets effected by these controls. You look at how a monopoly figures into it, too. Businesses have a lot of tactics they can and do use but, a lot, a lot, a lot of the time its enormously profitable and extremely productive to look at how these things wind up on the supply-demand curve. And yes, all this has been looked and studied before in exactly this manner. Thank God the entire world of academia didnt have your defeatist, "omg simplifying wtf holy shit" attitude.
Have you ever done a word problem in your life? You know how in physics, you get a word problem and it might be about a car going up a hill, or a wheel rolling down a steep slope, or a guy walking up a ladder, but it ultimately just turns into a free-body diagram and some manipulation of Newtonian formulas?
Or how you do problems in mathematics about water pumping out of and into different tanks, or populations growing and shrinking, or bridges warping, or relationship dynamics, or traffic moving, but it just turns into a bunch of differential equation at the end? ITS THE SAME TYPE OF THING! Gah.
Of course, your mind cant seem to think this way (maybe thats why you're an English major), which is why I said Im wasting my time.
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Originally Posted by diffusionx
You're fucking with me now. You know damn well what my major is. However, maybe I should change my major to English. The universe may colapse in on itself from the super dense Irony.
I think you are missing one big thing. Regardless if the economy can be put into math, you have no guarantee that EB or Gamespot do it in the way you describe. If by your judgment Circuit City didn't, who is to say EB and Gamespot do? It could be as I said earlier that they do it simple because keeping the price of jacked up on new releases used games, promotes the highest return on a used title, and promotes people choosing a new copy of the same game. We all know that S&D applies to the economy as a whole, but how do you know that EB as a company is using these methods?
Eh, actually it is a little bit more than that. A good bit of it comes from books on business and marketing.Quote:
Originally Posted by sleeveboy
Somebody needs to change the title of this thread, as it has completely derailed into a Supply and Demand/Economics debate and has little to do with great stories about retail retards.
*sigh*. No... Circuit City just overestimated what they thought they could sell. They just made a mistake and ordered too many copies of Okage Shadow King and whatever the fuck else. This same sort of thing happened with practically every retailer during the 16-bit days. It led to a slump, almost a mini-crash, in the end of 1994 and 1995. I believe that GameStop and EB wised up then and learned to keep their inventory lower.Quote:
If by your judgment Circuit City didn't, who is to say EB and Gamespot do?
Well they dont want people to choose a new copy, because they dont make any money on new games. You know that, right? On a $49.99 game they make maybe $2 on it. Compare that to the $15-$20 they get on a used game.Quote:
It could be as I said earlier that they do it simple because keeping the price of jacked up on new releases used games, promotes the highest return on a used title, and promotes people choosing a new copy of the same game.
Because they'd be stupid not to, because its universal, and like I said... I worked at EB when new release used games were like, $39.99, and I assume they felt they were flying off the shelves too fast and raising the price to $44.99 wouldnt be enough to deter people from buying them, while at the same time keeping an adequate supply in stock.Quote:
We all know that S&D applies to the economy as a whole, but how do you know that EB as a company is using these methods?
Also, remember that I said EB goes to great lengths to micromanage how many copies of a given title is in any given store, so I believe that they keep careful watch of the demand for certain titles in certain stores and shift them around to match these.
I don't understand the griping about expensive games.
If it's not worth it to you to buy a new game, rent it or just wait for a price drop. Last games I paid full price were PGR2 (And I sure as shit got my money's worth with 1,000 hours or something) and Toca 2 (which was worth the price of 30 bucks new).
Not quite a tough concept to grasp.
Words of wisdom from Cynicalsphere when I attempted to argue with Iron plant in this thread
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Originally Posted by Cynicalsphere
My favorite bit of IP's ramblings in that thread:
"I went into that statement assuming that sense he talks about what he does like on tnl quite a bit, and what he does like is not popular that you would have equated what station calls good music to music that is not popular."
???
that sentence ment
" <insert person here> talks about the music he likes all the time on the music board. I just assumed that at some point you've read what sort of stuff he likes, and from your own judgement could tell what he liked, wasn't popular on a grand scale. So maybe, you know, you'd already figured out that stations musical taste does not = popular music."