Samurai Shodown V Special Homecart CENSORED

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19 Jul 2004, 07:39 PM
gameoverDude

Samurai Shodown V Special Homecart CENSORED

http://www.neo-geo.com/forums/showthread.php?t=95547

Split your opponent in half? No. Decapitation? Uh-uh. Ralf501 played it with the Japanese language on and that didn't mean a damn thing- still no true fatalities.

Apparently a Japanese arcade had some complaints, so the home version is locked onto the Violence 1 setting with watered-down overkills/zetsumei ougi. Hanzo's deathmove in the arcade version is particularly sweet, with bone-breaking depictions similar to Namco's Death by Degrees.

You can not boot the homecart in the debug BIOS' MVS mode, or you'll have the game lock up with a red copyright screen. You may go to MVS mode once you have started a game, but you still haven't beat the lockout. If the cart tries to read MVS Soft Dip settings, BAM- lock up.

Ben Herman said he's not sure if they will be in the US ports, citing worldwide concerns due to issues in Iraq (yeah right). Abster on neo-geo.com got this reply from him:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Abster quoting Ben Herman

"Candid and honest....With the issues in Iraq where hostages are
constantly taken and beheaded, I can not promise your request. We are
probably 12 months from USA release of both titles. I will send your
concern to development team but no promises. Please understand this is
a worldwide issue."

Why, SNKPlaymore? :icepick: Please don't censor the other consoles' versions like this. Go for the complete original, even if you gotta take the M rating.
19 Jul 2004, 07:46 PM
Diff-chan

For the 1000th time, all of Neo-geo.com gets shit on by SNK/Playmore...

... yet they still wont learn.
19 Jul 2004, 07:51 PM
Giga Power

Bah. NG.com hates everything SNK releases. Some fans still hold true, but most only complain. So at least this time they have a reason.
19 Jul 2004, 08:45 PM
mollipen

Seriously, SNK has to be one of the stupidest companies in existence. If I'm buying one of their NeoGeo carts, I'm paying over $200. And if I'm paying that much, I'm old enough to see violence.
19 Jul 2004, 08:57 PM
Yoshi

Reason #7352 why MVS > AES
19 Jul 2004, 10:20 PM
kingoffighters

Wow.... that's pretty retarded. That's the final farewell gift to us NG fans? Hahaha, I still laugh about those special US "classic" inserts Playmore gave us as "gifts" for years of fan support, only to jack up the prices of Metal Slug 5 (and other) games to obscene level. Really, thanks but no thanks, I will stick with the Xbox/PS2 ports when they hit $14.99. ;)
19 Jul 2004, 11:52 PM
FX

Quote:

Originally Posted by diffusionx

For the 1000th time, all of Neo-geo.com gets shit on by SNK/Playmore...

... yet they still wont learn.

Sad. But they will still pay $325 for it.
20 Jul 2004, 12:19 AM
StriderKyo

In this case, I can sympathize with the censorship. For alot of people, watching decapitations for the sake of coolness is in poor taste right now. Besides, what kind of sick freak wants to see Nakoruru's head get cut off? This isn't 1992 anymore - blood and gore shouldn't really be selling points any longer.
20 Jul 2004, 01:05 AM
Shine

Quote:

Originally Posted by StriderKyo

In this case, I can sympathize with the censorship. For alot of people, watching decapitations for the sake of coolness is in poor taste right now. Besides, what kind of sick freak wants to see Nakoruru's head get cut off? This isn't 1992 anymore - blood and gore shouldn't really be selling points any longer.

Though I agree with you on this, an option to unlock this stuff would be nice. It's not like I'm looking for a new Mortal Kombat, but if that's the way a game was made than I don't see any reason to censor it.
20 Jul 2004, 01:11 AM
Cheebs

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yoshi

Reason #7352 why MVS > AES

This bears repeating. :D
20 Jul 2004, 01:47 AM
FX

Quote:

Originally Posted by StriderKyo

In this case, I can sympathize with the censorship. For alot of people, watching decapitations for the sake of coolness is in poor taste right now. Besides, what kind of sick freak wants to see Nakoruru's head get cut off? This isn't 1992 anymore - blood and gore shouldn't really be selling points any longer.

Perhaps, but I hate being told what I can and cannot see. For $325, you get a censored product? That's ass.
20 Jul 2004, 01:56 AM
gameoverDude

If the arcade owners notice people bemoaning the violence, they do have the option to turn it down.

Are the fatalities essential? I'll admit that they are not. But they are part of the arcade game- and when you pay $300+ for a NGHC, you should be getting a 1:1 version of said arcade game at home. Players who have objection to the fatalities or desire to see them should be given the same option arcade owners have.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cheebs, in reply to Yoshi

This bears repeating. :D

It definitely does.
20 Jul 2004, 03:35 AM
Do You Like Erotic?

Some things are absolute. SNK dicking up home releases is one of those things :|
20 Jul 2004, 08:36 AM
Changeling

Quote:

Originally Posted by StriderKyo

In this case, I can sympathize with the censorship. For alot of people, watching decapitations for the sake of coolness is in poor taste right now. Besides, what kind of sick freak wants to see Nakoruru's head get cut off? This isn't 1992 anymore - blood and gore shouldn't really be selling points any longer.

But...... We have a ratings system now to protect young and fragile lil people from seeing more graphic things in games. It doesn;t really matter to me either way, though. I always found it humorous to hear people whine about the "blood" being white and stuff. I play games for gameplay, not gimmicks. As you stated, it isn't '92 anymore. Besides, I'm sure the rom of the prototype will be dumped anyway in time so if the goopy red stuff is important, then I'm sure that you'll be able to find it. I'll still pick it up when its released on the XBOX just to play on live, even though I've been playing it online for a while with kaillera ;)
20 Jul 2004, 09:32 AM
ssbomberman

...

Isn't the game considered broken crap anyway? I'm trying to give it a test run to play it, but honestly, there are so many good fighters out there right now, if this one is gonna be censored and all that, just move on.
20 Jul 2004, 01:41 PM
JefmcC

I bet a lot of people on N-G.com are upset because the game, not being a direct 1:1 copy, will not hold or increase in it's value.

LOL, for once, the AES crowd get an "inferior port", as they like to put it.

MVS all the way, for half the pay. ;)
20 Jul 2004, 02:04 PM
kedawa

People have been getting beheaded since the dawn of time, but suddenly it's a big sensitive issue when it happens to a yank. How many people do you think got there noggins cleaved in Africa while we were all playing MKII? I'm guessing thousands., at least. Fucking retarded is what this is. I could understand the censorship if this was like 'Waku Waku Decap-Iraq' or something, but I don't see the connection when its a feudal japanese sword-fighting game. Developers weren't disabling the sniper mode in their FPSs when that sniper thing was happenning. Why is this so different?
28 Jul 2004, 05:10 PM
Jetman

:cry:

Just heard about this. What in the fuck is up with our society over here turning PG-13 all of a sudden?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shidoshi

Seriously, SNK has to be one of the stupidest companies in existence. If I'm buying one of their NeoGeo carts, I'm paying over $200. And if I'm paying that much, I'm old enough to see violence.

This was exactly the first thing I thought - what a bunch of :bs:

Quote:

Originally Posted by StriderKyo

In this case, I can sympathize with the censorship. For alot of people, watching decapitations for the sake of coolness is in poor taste right now. Besides, what kind of sick freak wants to see Nakoruru's head get cut off? This isn't 1992 anymore - blood and gore shouldn't really be selling points any longer.

Well, all of the fatalities werent JUST blood gushers and decapitations.Some of them actually looked kind of cool - Someone here already mentioned Hanzo's. Rimururu,Minaa,and Enja/Kazuki had some pretty slick ones too.

What are the odds of us not getting a non-censored version of it for X-Box/PS2 ? next to nill? Who has the rights to it SNK/Playmore or Agetec?
28 Jul 2004, 05:18 PM
Josh

Guess I'll have to download this one off the internet too.
28 Jul 2004, 05:34 PM
Eight One

Wow. What a way to end a 14-year run of a niche market. Slap 'em in the face with bullshit like this.

By the way, did any of you see anything like this?

http://www.gamespot.com/news/2004/07...s_6103366.html
28 Jul 2004, 05:38 PM
johnk_

Quote:

Originally Posted by StriderKyo

In this case, I can sympathize with the censorship. For alot of people, watching decapitations for the sake of coolness is in poor taste right now. Besides, what kind of sick freak wants to see Nakoruru's head get cut off? This isn't 1992 anymore - blood and gore shouldn't really be selling points any longer.

While it obviously isn't a selling point in a 2D fighter, I'd much rather be able to play the game in the rendition that it was originally developed than have to worry about what is or isn't in "poor taste right now" and how that'll affect the game.

censorship always boils down to the "need" to have others tell me what I should or shouldn't be able to see.

Fuck that.
28 Jul 2004, 06:15 PM
sethsez

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seven Force

Wow. What a way to end a 14-year run of a niche market. Slap 'em in the face with bullshit like this.

I dunno, it seems about right to me.
28 Jul 2004, 06:20 PM
gameoverDude

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jetman

:cry:

Just heard about this. What in the fuck is up with our society over here turning PG-13 all of a sudden?

This was exactly the first thing I thought - what a bunch of :bs:

Well, all of the fatalities werent JUST blood gushers and decapitations.Some of them actually looked kind of cool - Someone here already mentioned Hanzo's. Rimururu,Minaa,and Enja/Kazuki had some pretty slick ones too.

What are the odds of us not getting a censored version of it for X-Box/PS2 ? next to nill? Who has the rights to it SNK/Playmore or Agetec?

Rimururu's is kinda neat- a giant Sledge-O-Matic made out of ice. I had a bit of a chuckle with that one.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seven Force

Wow. What a way to end a 14-year run of a niche market. Slap 'em in the face with bullshit like this.

By the way, did any of you see anything like this?

http://www.gamespot.com/news/2004/0...ws_6103366.html

Looks interesting. I guess those bugs were SNKP's karma for fiddling with the original design. Zangyaku level 3, here we come. :) But when one pays 41,790 JPY ($379), this is the way SNKP should've released the game in the first place.
28 Jul 2004, 09:01 PM
Eight One

Quote:

Originally Posted by sethsez

I dunno, it seems about right to me.

That's gotta be the absolute suckiest way to go out. You don't shit on the folks who keep you afloat.

Quote:

Originally Posted by StriderKyo

In this case, I can sympathize with the censorship. For alot of people, watching decapitations for the sake of coolness is in poor taste right now. Besides, what kind of sick freak wants to see Nakoruru's head get cut off? This isn't 1992 anymore - blood and gore shouldn't really be selling points any longer.

It's a video game. Why do I need someone else to tell me what I want to see? Pay that much money knowing it's not complete? Fuck that noise.
29 Jul 2004, 12:25 AM
AaronChance

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jetman

What are the odds of us not getting a non-censored version of it for X-Box/PS2 ? next to nill? Who has the rights to it SNK/Playmore or Agetec?

The PS2 version that just came out in Japan is censored.
(and has really long load times, apparently)
Also the arcade release of SS0 Special is censored, I believe.
SNK didn't make the game, they only ruined it.
29 Jul 2004, 12:48 AM
PKBMax

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ammadeau

Also the arcade release of SS0 Special is censored, I believe.

The MVS version is not censored.
30 Jul 2004, 03:16 PM
kedawa

Let's also not forget that this is a FUCKING AES CART!!!
It's not like some soccer mom is going to come accross this at wal-mart and pick it up and be like, "Oh my god, I just know this obscure japanese fighting game for a system I've never heard of and hasn't been made in ten years has beheading! What an outrage and an insult to our country!"
SNK could release an AES game that features child-raping, suicide-bombing, kitten-stomping gameplay and nobody outside of the ng community would even notice.
30 Jul 2004, 03:26 PM
epmode

just so you know, the carts are being recalled. presumably to fix bugs, but i've read that the fatalities will be restored.
09 Aug 2004, 03:53 PM
gameoverDude

You win some & you lose some.

http://neo-geo.com/snk/releases/ss0s/recall/recall.htm

Well, Shawn at the NeoStore is helping get carts on their way to SNKP for reprogramming. If you go this route, SNKP will give you "lessened fatalities", cut-down versions of the Zetsumei Ougi.

Why did SNK remove the fatalities? It was due to that damn Nagasaki Incident, I heard. :mad: Outrageously lame. Did Konami take the blood out of the US versions of Silent Scope due to stuff happening here? No, they did NOT.

From what Razoola said, if you get your SS0S cart fixed that you may well be SOL as far as a fully uncensored mode- his Universe Bios may not be able to help you there. So much for a 1:1 version with Zangyaku level 3, especially when the cart is $359. Come on SNKPlaymore- the Neo-Geo is not a console that those under 16 will generally be buying games for given its cart prices.

You probably shouldn't be in a hurry to send your cart back. Who knows whether or not SNK just may be ready to rip out the original ZL3 fatality code?
10 Aug 2004, 01:11 AM
Eight One

Quote:

Originally Posted by gameoverDude

Why did SNK remove the fatalities? It was due to that damn Nagasaki Incident, I heard. :mad: Outrageously lame. Did Konami take the blood out of the US versions of Silent Scope due to stuff happening here? No, they did NOT.

Get the fuck outta here! I'm sooooo glad I went MVS.