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Apple released their 4th generation iPod today, and it is smokin' hot. They incoporated the innovative click wheel from the iPod mini, and gave it a longer battery life. *yes!* Up to 12 hours(!) What do you guys think of it? I think it's time to hit up the Apple store and start spending.
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http://www.apple.com/ipod/
EDIT: Also, apparently a price drop is now in effect. The highend 40g model is now $100 LESS then it's former price. Delightful!
Its awesome. Ive wanted an iPod since they first came out and now my frothing demand continues to increase.
Is the price still 2 testicles?
I always tell myself "THIS is the paycheck I'm going to use to get my 40g iPod." but I'm always too pussy to ever do it. I really think now that they've upped the battery life, I'll get this shit and bring ALL the boy's to the yard.Quote:
Originally Posted by diffusionx
It's worth three, love. Every CD I've ever owned plus 50,000 more in my pocket? Worth my penis plus more.Quote:
Originally Posted by MVS
Wait, longer battery life? That's it?
Quite the fucking slap in the face to everybody that bought the old iPod. Apple is the Nintendo of computers and will continue to gouge its customers. And they will always turn a blind eye because Apple is the king of form factor.
There are more important things, like how hard it hits my wallet.
I had a first generation iPod, and the the one before this. I still like the first's design the most. If it weren't for button problems and dirt getting in the cracks it's be bliss.
And I still don't like the mini's very much, so you can understand why this new upgrade doesn't leave me drooling.
Umm, its not like the old battery life was unacceptable, and there are more improvements you know, like the click-wheel. Wee!Quote:
Wait, longer battery life? That's it?
This is definitely not the same as the GBA, which was unplayable garbage that everybody hated while Nintendo denied they were gonna release an improved version, then they went ahead and did right after the holiday season without warning. This has been Apple's way of doing things since, I dont know, the beginning of time.
I like the third generation iPod's, personally. The mini's are ugly, and only appreciated by girls. And the television show "Your face or mine?"Quote:
Originally Posted by Nomi
Oh my God. I just now noticed that the 40g is now $100 less then it used to be! That is wonderful! Now it is DEFINETLY time to buy.
It doesn't matter who owns an iPod. If you have one, I want you. It just makes everyone that much sexier.
Third generation isn't as nice, having the buttons away from the wheel. On the old one, I'd just scroll, and everything's there. That's the idea behind the mini and this one's layout.Quote:
Originally Posted by iidx Nick
And I'm a girl, and I do not appreciate the mini iPods. I know several girls who like other kinda more as well. They're just not as stylish, and the price per gig is unacceptable.
Okay, let's clear something up here... anybody who says " OMFG price drop!!!" is stupid. See, here is how things have ALWAYS worked: new version comes out, HD sizes get shifted down. Remember when the 10GB iPod became the 15GB iPod? That wasn't a price drop, that was an update on the low-end model. Apple does a hardware update, their lower models end up looking more like the next-higher model, and we get a new high end. The only difference here is that, so far, we don't have a new high-end model.
Anyhow, so-so update. I guess it's okay and all, but it isn't horribly exciting.
I got a 3rd Gen iPod and the only way I could swing the price was from a 100-dollar discount my boss gave me.
So I'm gonna pass on this. I like mine well enough, and another one would be much too rich for my finances. Looks sexy though.
2nd gen in tha HizzOUSE!!!
i like my buttons for REALS!
i kinda prefer the last wheel to these new clicky ones. the new battery life is nice, but definately not worth the upgrade.
I have delayed purchasing an iPod because I think it's stupid that I would have to ship it somewhere to get the rechargable battery replaced. Once they start selling the models where I can replace the battery, then I'll get one.
Oh, and a FM tuner would be nice, but not necessary.
You can replace them yourself.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cowdisease
The process looks a little too risky, especially since you have to pry open the case at the right spot (for newer models) just to get inside. Although seeing the inside of an iPod, I can now understand why Apple is relunctant to offer a replacable battery option. Oh well, there's always next year when they introduce the next model. I can't wait till the other MP3 players get better, which will force Apple to incorporate more features at a nice price.Quote:
Originally Posted by diffusionx
Thanks for the link, dif. Learned something new today.
Cowdisease, from what people have told me its less complex than modding your PSOne.
In any case, honestly, other companies have been trying to match the iPod for like, the past 5 years and nobody has really come that close yet. The only thing theyve been able to beat Apple on is price. But people have already shown they like paying extra because the iPod is just a better product.
And I doubt that Apple will ever offer one where swapping out the battery is trivial (like a cell phone or whatever). The ones they got in the iPods now last 18-36 months, which is pretty standard for those types of batteries, and bottom line, yes, they do want people to buy newer models.
Opening the iPod is a snap once you've done it, even on ones that haven't been opened before. It's just hard to describe how to make those tabs unclip on paper, you have to do it yourself.
Nick imposter - I have a mini and I appreciate it very much since it was given to me free by my boss.
Well I guess I'm stupid, because I'm fucking jazzed about keeping $100 while getting the 40g model I've wanted for over a year. Oh my!Quote:
Originally Posted by shidoshi
Yeah, you dummy! Stop bragging about the money you're saving!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by iidx Nick
So.....why are iPods good?
(I've never seen one before)
Convince me.
It's like owning a Dreamcast for music. The competition does everything better, but it sure is pretty and white and elitist.
i would get one of these new ipods....but im sure i could find something better to buy with all those dollars...but then again, its so sleek and sexy
I dont believe this news.Quote:
Originally Posted by omfgninjas
Wow, I thought Japan would be swamped with ipods by now. Tiny mp3 player with physically tiny hard drives in them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seven Force
Can't jog with them = no good for me.
My RCA Lyra with 128mb, weighing less than a paperclip, smaller than a cell phone battery, easily strapped to my arm, and no moving parts is my ticket for jogging bliss. I'd have an ipod hard drive shot to hell in a month.
What kind of jogging are you doing? I jog with mine all of the time.Quote:
Originally Posted by lithium
What the fuck are you going on about?Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Is a speed bump of Pentium 4 processors a slap in the face to people who bought older Pentium 4 processors?
Is a 2004 Ford a slap in the face to a 2003 Ford owner?
It's called an upgrade cycle. Usually they improve products each time. It's been going on for decades in every industry.
ANYWAYS, I have a 10GB 3G iPod, and I'm jealous. I want more storage space...
(I like the touch-sensitive buttons of mine... but they can be WAY too sensitive at times. The "click wheel" seems like a better idea.)
More pictures and comparison shots [1G, 3G, 4G, Mini]
I sold my 1G last year and I'm thinking it might be time to pick up a new iPod now.
i need a little clarification. Are the buttons on the wheel real or are they they just touch sensitive sectors of the wheel? I take it if i want to up the volume a little I won't be skipping to the next song, but it sure seems like i would.
Actually, it's the other way around with the click wheel.Quote:
Originally Posted by stormy
You spin your thumb along the wheel to increase/decrease the volume and then you press the wheel for track changes/play/pause/menu. I sometimes will move my finger a bit when changing tracks and up the volume a bit.
Hmm I've noticed alot of people are starting to get this, and I gotta say, I'm starting to want one myself. But first I have a few questions to ask.
1. Is it easy to put tracks from my cd's onto it?
2. How does this new thing for the car work and is it good?
3. When dl'ing the tracks, if you use the site where you pay, does buying all the tracks from a cd usualy add up to be close to the actual cd cost (say if bought from best buy or online places that go as low as 10 bucks)?
4. Does the official site to buy tracks contain tracks from obscure metal bands (obscure to most ppl anyway)?
Download iTunes (http://www.itunes.com) and check it out. Its really, really easy to rip CDs to your hard drive, and since iTunes was designed alongside the iPod, they are perfectly complimentary.Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkCrow676
My friend has something where you stick it on top of your iPod and it uses your radio at a certain frequency. Worked perfect.Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkCrow676
Full albums are $9.99Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkCrow676
I dont know, download iTunes. You can access the iTunes Music Store, look for what you want.Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkCrow676
itues is a great music organizer (i've almost completely ditched winamp for it,) but its online store is a bit lacking in relatively obscure titles.Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkCrow676
iTunes is lacking in even common titles sometimes. It all depends on what companies are willing to work with them. You'll notice that between all the online music shops, some bands and labels just aren't there. Obscure metal might be hard to come by.
iTunes is the easiest ripping program there is. You can choose between MP3, AAC (better), ALE (losless), and AIFF. It has all the usual CDDB stuff, too.Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkCrow676
Honestly... if you want the whole album, physically buy it in a store. That way you can rip it in the best quality you want. The nice thing about buying music online is you can buy the GOOD PARTS of albums if the rest sucks.Quote:
3. When dl'ing the tracks, if you use the site where you pay, does buying all the tracks from a cd usualy add up to be close to the actual cd cost (say if bought from best buy or online places that go as low as 10 bucks)?
Apple carries stuff from some indie labels, and adds more all the time.Quote:
4. Does the official site to buy tracks contain tracks from obscure metal bands (obscure to most ppl anyway)?
if you're talking about the bmw integration, it's a work of art. wish i had had a bmw..Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkCrow676
without that, the fm radio option is decent, but doesn't sound as good as if you hooked it directly into your stereo. seeing as i'm a bitch about that stuff, i bought a mod for my honda accord that allows me to hook anything into my stereo through left and right rca cables. $90. all i have to do now if find someone to install it for me. (there's no rewiring involved, but i've never opened a car stereo before)
I still think a standard little cassette adapter sounds fine for an iPod... But I can't really judge. My sound's dead on the iMac and I can only use internal sound. No speakers for me...
The radio thing works great, though. It does what it's supposed to at a fair price.
Ok, I'm seriously thinking about getting one of these, just a shame they are so damn expensive, but then again, I guess its worth it. I gotta say, the thing that has me solf is just imagining that at any time anywhere with that thing, I can listen to any cd I own.
So have these new ipods come out in stores yet, cause the 12 hour battery life is a must have?
Also, whats the best way to rip cds to itunes? right now im just ripping them from MusicMatch jukebox and then adding the file to my library. Is there a better way to do this that has better quality?
you'll wish you got it sooner when you no longer have to lug large CD books in and out of your car, hide them when you park in public to avoid theft, and scratch up all your CDs.
No, they aren't out in normal stores yet. Best Buy still carries the older ones, I was there today.Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkCrow676
As for ripping, just use iTunes. It's good quality (you can toggle it I think) and it'll do your library automatically. It's the simplest and more effective companion for the iPod (the iPod was designed to go with iTunes, afterall).
Ok, so how exactly do I do it in itunes? I click on import and then click on the cd but nothing comes up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nomi
After you click import, then you click that button again (I forgot what it changes to, like a nuclear symbol or something), then it does it automatically and puts the files in your playlist.Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkCrow676
Hmm cant figure it out right now, but thats ok, the way im doing it sounds fine. Sorry to be asking so many questions, but once all the tracks are uploaded onto the ipod, how is it all organized? Is it just by artist, or are tracks from cds put in the right order and under the cd name?Quote:
Originally Posted by diffusionx
Umm... I believe there are different submenus, like one is filed by artist and one is by album name, etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkCrow676
Broke down and bought one today.
Snazzy new blurry box design.
OMG BABY PIX!
Shhh! He's sleeping.
Yes they are. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Nomi
Not any more. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Nomi
Before you import your music (or after, I guess) put in the artist name and album, or music genre if you like. the iPod can categorize and search by all those fields. The playlists you have created in iTunes show up on the iPod as well. It's a pretty good interface.Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkCrow676
Man I want one of them so bad right now. I'm already putting my cds on itunes and I dont even know if I'll be getting one any time soon.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kano on the Phone
DarkCrow, you dont need an iPod to use iTunes. Its an excellent music player, in fact its my primary one. Replaced Winamp and all.
I know this, but I really don't have a need for a music player (although now that I will have all my cds on it, I might as well use it). I primarily am doing it so when I do get my ipod, whenever that may be, I will have most, if not all, the songs ready to put on it.Quote:
Originally Posted by diffusionx
I got the $500 40gig iPod about a month ago. Wish I had waited a bit.
That's the problem with electronics.Quote:
Originally Posted by Josh
I bought a P4 2.4 chip on a friday last november, and on the following monday the P4 2.6 chip was lowered to the same price.
USB 2.0 right out of the box. Mmm.
Sadly, my Best Buy only has 1 mini and 2 old ones which are still $500. I guess I'm just gonna order off of the Apple website. Not sure if I'm gonna get the 20G or 40G. Think I may rip all my cd's on the comp first and see how many G's that takes up. Has anyone here ever filled up there 20G or 40G?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kano on the Phone
One of my father's coworkers filled his 20 not too long ago, I think he's going to buy a 40 soon and give the other to his wife. This guy has a massive music collection though; most people never need more than a 15.
I have almost 40GB of music on my machine, but since I've rated all of my songs I only put songs with 4 or 5 stars on my mini. In addition to that, I reconfigure it to be a specific genre each day. Right now my mini's carrying about 210 songs from my Hip Hop/Rap genre.Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkCrow676
Wow, I couldn't imagine how many albums it would take to fill 40G's let alone how long it would take to rip all those albums onto the computer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nomi
I hate the fact that Kano already got one and I didn't. =[ EAT A FART, JERK.
Anyway, I'm on my way to get mine tomorrow. I can't live without knowing the new Hives CD is with me wherever I go.
I just can't.
Well I got A ipod today, but sadly not a new one. Grandparents got me one as a belated b-day present and its a 15 gig 3rd gen. Nothing to be too upset about considering all my 180 cd's only takes up half of the 15 gigs and I can always get the AA battery thing for it on long plain trips and such.Quote:
Originally Posted by iidx Nick
Same here. Curses.Quote:
Originally Posted by Josh
I still love mine, so I'm not upset bout getting it before the upgrade.Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkCrow676
And the Belkin AA battery pack is a wonderful thing to have around if you're going to have it for prolonged use away from an outlet.
i bought the same one back in december. thing is, i got it from best buy, with the purchase plan. it cost $75 extra, but if anything happens to mine, they'll give me an equivalent replacement. since the old ipods will be completely out of stores within a few months, i might be able to get a new model with the replacement plan. yes, i'm a horrible human being.Quote:
Originally Posted by Josh
Oh, come on. I buy those things, planning to let my product have 'an accident' sometime down the road so I can upgrade. I did it with my computer components, too.Quote:
Originally Posted by epmode
So I guess we're both terrible.
Quick question. I have a 15 gig ipo but when I go into settings and then about, it says the capacity is like 13.8 gigs. Is it suppose to be a bit less then 15?
yeah, mine lists itself as having 3 or so gigs less than advertised. the same thing happens with pc hard drives. has something to do with how the extra space is calculated. i used to know why, but i haven't been in that computer science course in a while..
Disk manufacturers advertise their hard drives as 1 meg = 1000K.
But everybody knows that, really, 1 meg = 1024K.
There should be some sort of regulations against this advertising, I reckon.
Haha, you're so not cool. Anyone whose anyone knows the 4th generation iPod's are all the rage these days. Sorry. You just can't be sexy. =( Crow always winds up with the short end of the stick.Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkCrow676
man do I totally love it.............IT IS SO GREAT......I JUST GOT IT for my birthday........oh my god......it is THE BEST.......
:cry: The front of these things get scratched up real easily. I've just been carrying mine inmy pocket and already it ahs some nasty scratches.
That would be "more than I can count" and "a very long time," respectively. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkCrow676
EDIT: A side note would be that I encode at 192 in iTunes and all of my pre-iTunes rips were at 320.
Actually they advertise a meg as having 1,000,000 bytes. ie, 1k has 1000 bytes.Quote:
Originally Posted by diffusionx