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I have Star Ocean 2 new, BOF 3 + 4 both Sealed bought when they came out and I don't recall if Saga is in my collection but all 4 games seemed to have a unique combat system and some cool looking locales. The stories for all were sub-par from what I read, anyone recommend a play-thru, I dunno how well they have aged?, and I have lost interest in RPGs lately so unless there's something special I"ll probally trade them in, get rid of them or what not.
SO2 easily, a fun combat system and a deep item creation system.Quote:
Originally Posted by Korian
Creating Items? Hmm doesn't sound too fun I got sick of that crap mixing herbs to make more useless items in Secret of Evermore.Quote:
Originally Posted by Damian79
Not the same. Nowhere near. I did like SoE somewhat though even though it got boring fast.Quote:
Originally Posted by Korian
But try the game atleast, It was my favourite RPG of last gen.
BOF4 is definitely playable.
I did not like Star Ocean 2. I couldn't endure the excessive dialogue and characters. Maybe the game gets better but after a few hours I didn't want to spend anymore time to find out.
Breath of Fire 4 is pretty cool. It doesn't break much new ground but the animation is really nice and the gameplay is good.
Saga Frontier didn't seem too appealing from what I played.
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Originally Posted by NeoZeedeater
These are my opinions on the matter as well. I did play quite some distance into SO2 though (until my memory card decided to erase itself) and the dialogue does not get better. Combat, skills and items are very fun though.
Sure the voice acting is ass, but Star Ocean 2 is great. The combat system and item creation is a blast, plus having 80+ endings or whatever doesn't hurt either. I'm not a fan of RPGs but I loved SO2.
Star Ocean 2 had decent voice acting... but the actual sound quality was so crappy. The game itself was awsome and I loved it enough to play twice.
I haven't Tried BoF4 yet.
Saga Frontier... I think is a fun game, but to me it shines the most in story, and perhaps that's the only place it truly shines.
Saga Frontier wasn't even worth playing when it came out.
My same exact opinion here. Just wait for Star Ocean 3.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeoZeedeater
BoF 3 and 4 are great, and if Saga Frontier 1 is anything like part 2, the story is awesome while the rest of the game is lacking.
I played through a huge part of SO2 when it was relased and I loved it. I haven't touched it since then because I didn't have a copy for a long time and I forgot what was going on, and the thought of repeating the 40+ hours wasn't too appealing. Been meaning to get back at it one day.Quote:
Originally Posted by Korian
BoF3 is alright and BoF4 is damn cool, but both require some massive levelling up at times. I stopped playing BoF3 because my characters were inside a dungeon and not strong enough to get back out, if I encountered a specific group of enemies it was instant kill for the whole party so I left it and never went back. I say skip BoF3 and play BoF4, the latter has some awesome characters in it.
SaGa Frontier is a good FAQ game and if you take the time to experiment and learn the combos the battle system can be very awesome. The main problem a lot of people have with it is that the story progresses like most other RPGs (going specific places to trigger events) but unlike most RPGs Frontier gives you absolutely no clue where that next trigger might be, which can lead to a lot of random useless wandering (hence it being a good FAQ game). There's tons of hidden stuff and the seperate characters who criss-cross stories is pretty cool, although I never got to finish it thanks to a memory card dying.
I loved SO2. I've only played through half the game though, and my old save file was erased, so I need to play through that slow first half again (not something I look forward to).
So does the game ever pick up? The slow plot and voice acting killed it for me, and I so badly wanted to crack open the game, but it just moved so damn slow.Quote:
Originally Posted by sleeveboy
I'm hoping Star Ocean 3 definately picks up the slack.
I loved the Battle System in SO3, though I played the japanese version so I didn't understand the plot at all. But it's definately fast paced battle Real time goodness. The Battle Collections thing is wierd, you have objectives to beat ranging from not taking damage from a certain boss to beating the last boss below level 10. (Yes, that is one of the data things).
Can't wait until August...Quote:
Originally Posted by Thief~Silver
Yeah, once you get off the first planet and build up the good skills it really opens up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Roufuss
I personally don't mind the slow pace that much, because my favorite thing about SO2 were all the offbeat skills like cooking. I spent so much time mixing items and making ice cream and sushi and all kinds of crazy crap.
My sentiments exactly.Quote:
Originally Posted by sleeveboy
Oh shit I totally forgot about the Iron Chef minigame!
Heheheh, that was so awesome.
The 80 endings is a gimmick right? Don't they just vary
slightly or is there one ultimate ending?
each character has their own ending that total up to 80 endings depending on what you do in the game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Korian
SO2 was just meh in my opinion. it had alot of cool stuff going for it, but it just didnt feel like it meshed well enough, or was polished enough or something.
BoF4 I absolutely love and its probably my favorite of the series. Its just a fun game to play and gives me the warm fuzzies every time I play it.
BoF3 is the worst in the series IMO. Its not a bad game though.
Saga Frontier.... bleh.
BoF4 is definitely kick ass. bought it off eBay some months back and played nothing but that for a good month or so. story is great, animation is great, character designs are wonderful... it just sucks that the game is fairly short (at best, your levels will be just under lv. 40 by the 4th, and last, chapter). and most of the masters are useless. it's a lovely game overall.
i haven't played BoF3, but i can get a new copy for $30 at FYE. i'm thinking about taking the dive for it since it's their last copy and it's also the only one i've seen in the area. i'd totally jump at it, no hesitations, if they sold it for $20/under.
and Saga Frontier is pretty meh. bought it on day 1, and still haven't beaten it. i even have the strat guide and i still don't know what i'm doing. the idea behind it is good, but overall it just falls apart because of the lack of direction. you play, and you get through chapters, but after 3 chapters they just leave you in the dust. battle encounters are way too frequent even if you can see enemies on screen. not only that, some enemies are ridiculously hard (the earth turtle in the bio lab especially! damn thing took almost 2 hours to beat). i'd probably go so far as to saying that the strategy guide is better than the game.
Reverse the two and that's exactly how I feel. Also add that BoF4 is booooooooooooooooooooooring as boring comes.Quote:
Originally Posted by EightBit
Its weird, but its always the case. People seem completely split on these two. Ones the best, and the other is the worst.Quote:
Originally Posted by Compass
For me, I guess it comes down to that, I cant remember much of BoF3, but I remember almost all of BoF4. 4 just had more personality to me.
SO2 is one of my least favorite rpgs on the psone. I remember buying it on release at full price and being totally appalled at how horrible the translation was. It was so devoid of any feeling or emotion that it basically wrecked the game for me.
I played up to about the 7ish hour mark, and I one part in particular, between the main male and female protagonists I believe was supposed to be some heart-felt scene, and it was just so generic... SO2 is one of the few games I've returned in the last five years.
BoF3 is good. I had a lot of fun with it at the time, with a cute story, some neat mini games and some really nice sprites and such. It can get a bit tedious at times and the last desert part is mind numbing, but overall a good game, and due to not being totally 3D holds up well.
BoF4 is one of my favorite rpgs of all time and one of my fave games on the psone. While pretty much completely overlooked by the videogame "mainstream", BoF4 gave one of the freshest rpg experiences on the system. Incredible hand drawn artwork, great animation, superb character design, not to mention one of the best battle systems of all time with its ability/spell combinations and character swapping that FFX pretty much outright copied.
It has a really cool story told from the perspective of the main good and evil characters which I thought turned out really well too. It has a lot of mini-games, a lot, but honestly I didn't have a problem with, but your mileage my vary.
Saga Frontier is not so good. I played, but not for long, and I really didn't enjoy it. At all. I felt about the same about the sequel, though I admit it was really pretty.
they needed more Hon-Fu. 'more' as in an entire story devoted to him and not just a few scenes here and there that ended too quickly. :\Quote:
Originally Posted by Kidnemo
and i liked hitting people with my sword to steal their money.
I thought SO2 was a really fun game with a decent story, a little freakin hard in parts but I'd reccomend playing through it.
Same thing happened to me. =\Quote:
I loved SO2. I've only played through half the game though, and my old save file was erased, so I need to play through that slow first half again (not something I look forward to).
I liked Star Ocean 2. Mostly for the private actions. And Breath of Fire 4 is the only Breath of Fire game that I liked.It had some great scenarios, like when you're stranded on an island. I think both of those games are worth playing now.
Finally managed to snag BoF 4 after all the glowing recommendations on here.
Managed to get it for 21 bucks shipped from half.com, which is a more than decent price.
Nice!
Hopefully you like it.
I would still say the majority didn't like BoF4, it seems that the people who did, really, really enjoyed it.
Thanks to the thread reminding me, I finally started a new game of SO2. It's so wierd going through again after years of being away as I almost remember everything that's going on but not quite, it's like an extended session of deja vu.
I would've liked to go through BoF4 but my roommate's copy got stolen and I've never owned one. :(
I liked it too... but you know Rei still kicks Cray's butt! ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Kidnemo
I was thinking about going through it again as well. I don't own a copy either though, which is strange, considering that I have all four others and think it's second only to DQ in quality.Quote:
Originally Posted by MechDeus
Question about SO2. Twice while playing it, my memory cards have erased. The first time I had just made it to the second world. The second time, just a few weeks ago, I was deep in the CoT. I saw that it's happened to other people as well. Could something in the game actually cause this? Anyone know?
I don't know, but in my case, I had the save on one of my brother's cards and he deleted it. =\
My erase was intentional, so I wouldn't know.Quote:
Originally Posted by taloony
It's one of those 2-block saves, and PSone save space is always at a premium.