Hitomi in DOAU!!

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23 Jul 2004, 02:07 PM
MarkRyan

Hideo Kojima's games are infinitely superior to Team Ninja's. I'd take Boktai on GBA any day over Ninja Gaiden, not to mention Zone of the Enders 2 and Metal Gear.

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Originally Posted by diffusionx

In any case, the circumstances are irrelevant. Fact is, they made this upgrade available to fans for free (and fans didnt even really ask for it). They put Hitomi into DOAU because fans want it. They made DOAXB as fanservice. Etc. etc. Team Ninja puts a lot of work into pleasing their fanbase.

EA makes Madden after Madden and updates the rosters and features for fans. Capcom made Capcom vs. SNK for fans. Blizzard made Warcraft III for fans. Bungie is working hard on Halo 2 for fans. Rockstar is making GTA: San Andreas for fans.

Doing things fans want is nothing new--it's how people sell games.
23 Jul 2004, 02:09 PM
Diff-chan

I wasnt talking about other companies, chief. The only other game developers I mentioned were the idiots that Yoshi mentioned, and yea... Team Ninja does work for the fans a lot more than those guys.

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I'd take Boktai on GBA any day over Ninja Gaiden, not to mention Zone of the Enders 2 and Metal Gear.

Good for you.
23 Jul 2004, 02:13 PM
MarkRyan

I wasn't talking about just the developers mentioned. I used a wide-range of developers of different genres to demonstrate the obvious fact that all video games are designed and made for fans.

Throwing in a character from a past game or releasing a patch to try and make better a game are nothing out of the ordinary at all.
23 Jul 2004, 02:14 PM
Diff-chan

All those companies you listed, with the exception of Capcom, are Western. And Capcom vs. SNK is terrible. Maybe its more common outside of Japan, because many Japanese developers certainly seem to push the "youll play what we tell you to play" idea. Especially Nintendo.

So if Itagaki is taking a hint from American/Canadian/European developers, hooray! Maybe everyone else on that island will.
23 Jul 2004, 02:21 PM
MarkRyan

...I just said that I wasn't talking about just the developers mentioned. SNK made how many fighting games for fans? Konami makes how many Yu-Gi-Oh games for fans? Nintendo makes how many Pokémon games because fans want them?

Everyone that makes video games makes games that they believe fans want. Again, because Itagaki includes a previous character in a new-release doesn't mean he's doing anything special--Capcom, Namco, SEGA, SNK, Sammy, etc. have been doing this for years.
23 Jul 2004, 02:22 PM
Joust Williams

Why don't YOU take a hint:

I like Nintendo games. I'm a fan. They give me what I want. They give the fans what they want.

Just because they don't give YOU what you want, doesn't mean squadoosh. And I don't care if you complain about it.

You're not a fan. You admit that you don't even play games. Every opinion you have of a game is from someone at your crap EB. You constantly harped on Madden being a bettr game, and when you were painted into a corner, it was made clear that it was your boss, rather than you, that formed the opinion. Newsflash: Distancing yourself away from games doesn't make you any less than a dork.
23 Jul 2004, 02:23 PM
Diff-chan

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Originally Posted by Joust Williams

I like Nintendo games. I'm a fan.

Cause you're an idiot.

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Nintendo makes how many Pokémon games because fans want them?

LOL! What about Pokemon MMORPG and SRPG games? Games that fans have been desiring for YEARS? Nintendo doesnt give a shit about fans and they havent since the N64 days. I know because I used to be one.
23 Jul 2004, 02:23 PM
Wolffen

What the hell was this thread about again?
23 Jul 2004, 02:25 PM
Joust Williams

How am I the idiot? I recall someone tellling me their opinion of you when they met you.

"He tries to act cool. When we were talking about the internet or something, he continually had to say, 'let's not talk about that, its nerdy'."

Keeping that in mind, I have to laugh.

" about Pokemon MMORPG and SRPG games? Games that fans have been desiring for YEARS? Nintendo doesnt give a shit about fans and they havent since the N64 days. I know because I used to be one."

Who gives a hell what a few people want? I wanted a good game and I didn't get one with NG. Oh crap, he didn't appease the fans! I'M NOT A FAN ANYMORE! For someone CONSTANTLY telling everyone the world doesn't revolve around themselves, you certainly seem to think it revolves around you.
23 Jul 2004, 02:27 PM
Roufuss

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Originally Posted by Joust Williams

They give the fans what they want.

Where's online play? Why does Nintendo force me to buy TWO games on TWO seperate systems just to fully experience a full game? (Mario Golf Advance). Why do they always bring out these "new and innovative" ideas only to shit on them after all the fans picked it up? (E-reader). Why are all of nintendo's games this gen, except for a scant few, just rehashes and retreads of it's older crap?

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You're not a fan. You admit that you don't even play games. Every opinion you have of a game is from someone at your crap EB. You constantly harped on Madden being a bettr game, and when you were painted into a corner, it was made clear that it was your boss, rather than you, that formed the opinion. Newsflash: Distancing yourself away from games doesn't make you any less than a dork.

You don't even know the guy so this whole statement is just hilarious.

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