Dai Senryaku VII: Modern Military Tactics

ADSR was great on the DC, and I never thought it would ever get release over here. Kemco picked it up and it's going to be only 20 bucks. Complete score.

The only previous release was in the US was under the name "Iron Storm" for US Saturn.

Few pictures at the Official site http://www.kemcogames.com/game_detail.html?id=40 and some PR from it:

In warfare strategy is everything, without it you are destined for failure. Everything must be taken into consideration: distance, terrain, firepower, armor etc. They are all pivotal factors and a successful commander neglects none of them. Actions create reactions and how you respond, keeping in mind the crucial factors of warfare, will determine your success as a dominate force in the world of turn based strategic war simulation.

Command an entire military force with the most modern technologies of war. Join the 3-D battlefield with Kemco’s Dai Senryaku and test your abilities against the unrelenting computer AI or challenge your friends to an all out battle. Choose from an enormous selection of vehicles ranging from land, sea and even air attack mediums. If you don’t like the terrain you are dealt create your own with the map editor and design it to your specific strategic strengths. Don’t hesitate and don’t second guess, both will do you no good in this exciting modern warfare simulation.

Classic turn base war simulation with modern warfare theme that features


Over 400 vehicles to choose from with a wide range of strengths and weaknesses and also a wide range of purpose and abilities.

User friendly controls

3-D battlefield in which the player can choose the angle and distance of the game play view.

Genre: Turn Based Strategy
Rating: Pending
Platform: Xbox
Release Date: Q4 2004

A few places have it listed as Sept 15th release, but others say October so who knows?

I am all over this.....I'll continue to practice on Iron Storm and Combat Mission though, I've gotten rusty at these types of games.

Are you sure this is the DC port? I thought it was WWII not modern warfare.

Awesome. I somehow missed this on DC - I think I got it mixed up with that game where you control Nazi Germany. It reminds me of the excellent old NES/SNES series Conflict that Vic Tokai published - any relation? If this comes out in 2 weeks at that pirce, I'm there. Man, I didn't even know Kemco was still in business.

Iron Storm is awesome.... One of my favorites in the genre. I can't wait for the new one!

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Originally Posted by StriderKyo

It reminds me of the excellent old NES/SNES series Conflict that Vic Tokai published - any relation?

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Daisenryaku is an older series by System Soft/Microcabin. It has been around on Japanese computers since the mid '80s. Conflict is a Vic Tokai original as far I know.

I could never really get into Iron Storm back in the day but that may have had something to do with my new obsession over a certain PC strategy game when I picked it up. ;)

At $20 I'll definitely be checking this out.

Release date: 12/14/2004

Also very interrested by this game.

As always, Gamespot comes through with impressions and gameplay video.

• Despite the fact that it boasts more than 400 unit types, the game really isn't as complex as it looks and actually has quite a lot in common with Nintendo's Advance Wars titles on the Game Boy Advance
• Dai Senryaku VII: Modern Military Tactics will boast no fewer than 112 campaign missions, as well as a skirmish mode and a map editor
• Unfortunately, at least in our work-in-progress version of the game, the visuals in said animations leave a lot to be desired and wouldn't have looked out of place in a 1995 PlayStation launch title.

Launch title? It can't be good when your fmv intro looks like it should be the in-game engine. At least the interface looks slick.

Thanks for those links, Strider. Given that I've missed out on this series before, I'm not letting it happen again, as it looks quite enjoyable.

I'm freaking STUNNED that this game is being released over here at all, much less a price point of $19.99. The last console based Daisenrakyu game that was released in the U.S. was Iron Storm for the Saturn. Wow.

Edit: Sorry, missed previous thread.

Adding: I don't think this is a remake of either Daisenrakyu for the DC. I bought the Xbox import a while back and it wasn't the same as either version that was released for the DC.

I hope that low price tag induces people to buy this game. Because I don't want to be the first.

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I hope that low price tag induces people to buy this game. Because I don't want to be the first.

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I'll be the first. ;)

If it's as good as Advance Wars then I'm in. Just give me that piece of info.

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I hope that low price tag induces people to buy this game. Because I don't want to be the first.

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Aren't you into Koei strategy games? You should be used to that by now.

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Originally Posted by Cowutopia

If it's as good as Advance Wars then I'm in. Just give me that piece of info.

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Agreed.

Even though it's 20 bucks, I'm gonna wait for a first hand impression.

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Originally Posted by Saint of Killers

Aren't you into Koei strategy games? You should be used to that by now.

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Have you watched the video? It could be good, but it also looks like it could end up being drab, long and repetitive. Just going by the impressions:

-boasts more than 400 unit types,

Good!

- the game really isn't as complex as it looks and actually has quite a lot in common with Nintendo's Advance Wars titles on the Game Boy Advance

Not good! It seems very much from the Nectaris school of design which is cool, and I know everyone loves AW, but that's a game that's designed to be quick to pick up. I need some meat on the bone if I'm going to sit in front of my couch through:

- no fewer than 112 campaign missions, as well as a skirmish mode and a map editor

And then there's this:

Unfortunately, at least in our work-in-progress version of the game, the visuals in said animations leave a lot to be desired and wouldn't have looked out of place in a 1995 PlayStation launch title.

Sure, Romance of the Three Kingdoms VIII didn't have half the visual excitment this game does in terms of animations, but Koei games make up for it in personality and I don't know how much of that Daisenryaku has. Not writing the game off by any means, just not an instant purchase. I'll wait to see what the impressions of the final are like first.

I played the shit out out of Iron Storm. I hope this is at least as good.

Evidently Working Designs looked into picking this one up awhile back... they thought it was too low quality though, especially when compared to Iron Storm. :/

Bah, that's a bunch of horseshit. They probably wouldn't have gotten it finished before the Xbox 3 launch. :P

Here's the cover, which I like. I'll try and get this game in a few weeks.

I played Iron Storm back in the day. It was really crappy and ugly. It didnt even come close to the PC strategy games of the day, like Panzer General. So this game will be good if its more like Advance Wars than Iron Storm.

Iron Storm and Panzer/Allied General are on the same level, IMHO. Storm played more fluidly and the AI didn't take nearly half as long. The expansion pack (only available in Japan) was decent as well.

Nah, you're wrong.

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Here's the cover, which I like. I'll try and get this game in a few weeks.

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Wow, so they kept the shitty japanese name, and put a bunch of japanese words on the cover?

That will really pick up sales, considering people can't even pronounce the damn name. They should have just left it at Modern Military Tactics, personally.

At least then they'd get the whole "older gamer who plays nothing but war games" crowd, but people are going to see Dai Senyraku VII and a barrage of japanese letters and probably take a pass.

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Originally Posted by diffusionx

Nah, you're wrong.

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I've beaten Allied General, Panzer General, Iron Storm, Iron Storm Expansion pack multiple times with every playable army. I know of what I speak.

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I played Iron Storm back in the day. It was really crappy and ugly. It didnt even come close to the PC strategy games of the day, like Panzer General. So this game will be good if its more like Advance Wars than Iron Storm.

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I've never played Iron Storm, but I would honestly take SNES Conflict over Panzer General. That was the poster boy for drab & repetitive. Are there any moving graphics in the game at all? PG was so dull I put it down after two days with it and never played it again until the inevitable trade in.

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Wow, so they kept the shitty japanese name, and put a bunch of japanese words on the cover?

That will really pick up sales, considering people can't even pronounce the damn name. They should have just left it at Modern Military Tactics, personally.

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Ugh. That may be the most generic name for a game I've ever seen. Although, that's pretty much what Dai Senryaku translates to (Dai Senryaku just means "Great Tactics" if you translate it literally; the name has a bit of a pun when the words are put together in Japanese - Daisen means big/great war or battle, and senryaku means tactics. ) Dai Senryaku at least stands out.

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At least then they'd get the whole "older gamer who plays nothing but war games" crowd, but people are going to see Dai Senyraku VII and a barrage of japanese letters and probably take a pass.

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When has having a Japanese name ever hurt a game's sales?

Meh, I can't really say that a military strategy title would really warrant the attention of too many casual gamers anyway, and this way it'll maybe scare off the ones stupid enough to mistake "military strategy" for "awesome military action shooter that is totally returnable if you open it and it's not what you thought", which tends to happen...

I'm just not looking forward to the hassle of going to EB, and being like "hey, do you have Dai Senyraku?" and they give me the blank looks, and the "what the fuck are talking about" stares afterwords.

If the game was marketed right, they could easily pitch it to all the guys that do nothing but play Tom Clancy games and war games in general. The military strategy market is HUGE, and the game will get lost in the field because with a name like Dai Senryraku they might not even take notice as to what it is.

I just disagree with the very Japanese name, because it's not an easy sell to anyone with that type of name, and this game could become a sale for many people but they'll pass it over with that name.

I feel you on the EB thing, but the name's not really hard to pronounce. Die (as in "you will") sen ree-aku.

I guess some people will pass over it because it has a hard word on the front, but I don't know if calling it Iron & Guts: Maximum Tactical Dominance or whatever Tom Clancy fans want to see would cause it to fly off the shelves.

I'm only dreading having to say, and then spell the word for the EB clerk so they can look it up, and then punch in a pre-order for me. If they can't do that, I'll just buy it online. EB's site ships quickly, anyway.

So did anyone ever end up buying this thing?

Did it come out?

I haven't seen it anywhere yet, I'd have picked it up if I had.

It doesn't come out for another month.

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Originally Posted by diffusionx

I played Iron Storm back in the day. It was really crappy and ugly. It didnt even come close to the PC strategy games of the day, like Panzer General. So this game will be good if its more like Advance Wars than Iron Storm.

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Panzer General was garbage. In fact all strategy games that run on the hexagon-grid system are except for People's General, which rocked.

EDIT: Civil War Generals II was the worst, the video clips would cause your comp to crash routinely.

Military Madness rules, you don't know what you're talking about.

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I'm only dreading having to say, and then spell the word for the EB clerk so they can look it up, and then punch in a pre-order for me.

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I'm not so sure this has to do with just Japanese named games. I had to freakin spell out "Advance Guardian Heroes" like 4 times for the kid at Gamestop, back when that came out. And I shouldn't even dredge up the nonsence that ensued when shopping around for Rez. Heck, just last night I got the blank stare/wtf look at Gamestop when I told 'em their web site listed the store with multiple copies of Firefighter F.D. 18. Sure enough we found a copy amongst the completely unorganized shelves, but it took way too long, and the one clerk was sure no such game existed. They were completely thrown by the "F.D. 18" part. I got more cooperation once I said the game was called just "Firefighter"
I think the real problem is that most putz clerks have no idea what game products are out there - not to mention what is in their stores under their very noses. And unless a game is huge like Suikoden, then the Japanese name is going to place it further from the average clerks awareness. And even though Jap-centric entertainment is bigger than ever in the US, any older gamers I know still scoff at anything with a foriegn sounding name. Like I told them all about Katamari Damaci, and no one wanted to hear a word about another queer Japanese game. But then they see us playing it and everyone is all like "huh, neat, what's this?"

sorry if you read all that, really pointless in regard to the thread. I just had to vent over clerks who sigh and roll their eyes at you because they don't know a game exists.

So, like, is this game finally out yet, and has anybody played it?

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Originally Posted by StriderKyo

So, like, is this game finally out yet, and has anybody played it?

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It's out. I saw it at EB for $30(CDN).

I have it but I haven't had the chance to get going on it.

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So, like, is this game finally out yet, and has anybody played it?

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I've seen it, the past several weeks at Gamestop. I was so close to buying it, but opted for Strider 2. Then the clerk told me about the buy 2 used games, get one free and I picked up Outrun 2 and PDO.

I still plan on getting this one, before it goes out of print.