Politicians

He throws wicked keggars. When we put him back in office.

Ironplant: FU

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Originally Posted by dave is ok

Ironplant: FU

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N,FU

N, YFO

All the smart people in america are foriegn, they can't vote and think americans are stupid. And they're right, they are.

By the way, I want to see YAWA's input in this thread (before dave is ok turns it into a YFO/NYFO thread... dude youve been owned, just go away), since he is fond of saying all politicians are sleazy and corrupt.

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Originally Posted by NoboruWataya

All the smart people in america are foriegn, they can't vote and think americans are stupid. And they're right, they are.

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Perhaps, but only because their own country sucked so bad they had to become smart to leave it. Also a lot of that is probably opinionated, thinking their culture is smarter and/or makes more sense.

Most politicians are corrupt, yawa is right. You didnt disprove that, except to say that it's our system and our votes that put them in office, perhaps only scumbags aspire to be politicians, then who do we vote for? You aint owned shit

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Originally Posted by dave is ok

Most politicians are corrupt, yawa is right. You didnt disprove that, except to say that it's our system and our votes that put them in office, perhaps only scumbags aspire to be politicians, then who do we vote for? You aint owned shit

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of course, the point of this thread is not to discuss whether politicians are corrupt and sleazy. An educated Massachusetts elite like yourself should realize that without too much trouble. The point of this thread is to say, where does this conception come from, and what do we do with it in the face of James Madison's writings, which say that a corrupt government will arise from nothing more than a corrupt populace, and no government could save that populace.

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Originally Posted by The_Meach

I was going to come to Diff's defense here but holy crap is he pwning you guys.

Hard.

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I really wish you'd stop that crap. I don't need to know in every political thread what conservative you think is 'pwning' everyone just because YOU agree with what they say. Believe it or not, that doesn't automatically make them right.

Protip: Just STFU.

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Originally Posted by diffusionx

of course, the point of this thread is not to discuss whether politicians are corrupt and sleazy. An educated Massachusetts elite like yourself should realize that without too much trouble. The point of this thread is to say, where does this conception come from, and what do we do with it in the face of James Madison's writings, which say that a corrupt government will arise from nothing more than a corrupt populace, and no government could save that populace.

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Some might say that one big problem with our government is the fact that it is almost entirely run by a bunch of lawyers. How just can something be that is run by people that their former job was to shift the law back and forth to achieve a goal, regardless if said goal is moral? What is your opinion on that?

I think that is one problem with our government and why we have such a push to have more big government and more socailistic problem solving. A lawyer is going to believe that ajusting old laws and makeing new laws can fix all problems, when in reality many of the problems in the US come from socal factors between groups of people, something that negative reinforement from breaking a law or regualation probably won't fix. They think this way because they went to school to be taught to think this way, and to perform well in a system based on laws.