Tony Dungy is part of the old Kansas City "plays too conservative to win in the playoffs" school. See also Bill Cowher, Marty Schottenheimer, Herm Edwards, Paul Hackett.
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Tony Dungy is part of the old Kansas City "plays too conservative to win in the playoffs" school. See also Bill Cowher, Marty Schottenheimer, Herm Edwards, Paul Hackett.
Ben week 8 against the Pats: 18 of 24 196 yards, 2 TDs 0 INTQuote:
Originally Posted by haohmaru
Ben week 14 against the Jets: 9 of 19 144 yards, 0 TD 2 INTs
I think it's the team, boss.
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Originally Posted by Saint of Killers
Word.
After the Pats shut down one of the best offenses of all time, and the Steelers needed the Jets to miss two field goals to beat them, I'm gonna go with the Pats again next week. Until they lose a big game, I don't see how anyone would want to bet against them.
Don't mistake it for cockiness. I like the Jets, and I think all of those things you just said would be true if we would have played in New York had the Jets won. But the Pats in the postseason, at home no less, is just an entirely different beast.Quote:
Originally Posted by burgundy
In retrospect, the only reason I'm overly cautious about the Steelers is in fact that they are playing in Pittsburgh. It sounds silly, but I'm telling you, this time of year, with this N.E. team, it makes all the difference in the world.
Nah, but you'll come a helluva lot closer than the Colts ever will. Which I have to ask, what made you fall for all that Colts hype anyway? You aren't one to drop the ball on stuff like this, so I was kind of shocked to hear you say that you couldn't see how the Pats were gonna stop this.Quote:
Next year, we own you.
You really have. I'm hoping N.E. borrows your notes on the Steelers.Quote:
Roethlisberger threw a bunch of picks when they played the Jets in the regular season. The Jets clearly have their issues on offense which better be addressed this offseason but defensively we have owned the Steelers like absolutely no one else.
I really don't see the Pats as a dominating unbeatable team so much as a well-coached, smart, balanced team that can adapt to a lot of different game situations. But once you start telling me "there's something about this team" and such - and I mean this in the least offensive way possible - you sound like a Yankee fan. The Pats find a way to win, and that's probably the best trait a team to have, but do not confuse that with invulnerability. Because they aren't.Quote:
Originally Posted by youandwhosearmy
Save for Martin, the Jets just have a really young team that's just going to improve. As for the Colts...I guess I just didn't check the Weather Channel? Confident in the Pats or not, absolutely no one would have imagined that Manning wouldn't put the ball in the end zone all day. It's simply absurd. Anyone who thought the Pats were gonna win thought so because they didn't believe in the Colt's D, which gave up a whopping 20 points. The Pats did what they had to do (like they always do, I'll give you that) but this game was basically decided by the weather, a terrible performance by the Colt O-line, dropped passes and inexplicable reluctance to go deep on the Pats' ridiculous secondary.Quote:
Nah, but you'll come a helluva lot closer than the Colts ever will. Which I have to ask, what made you fall for all that Colts hype anyway? You aren't one to drop the ball on stuff like this, so I was kind of shocked to hear you say that you couldn't see how the Pats were gonna stop this.
Blitz, blitz, blitz. NE doesn't have the CBs to run with a good HS team at this point so they're gonna have to keep Roethlisberger rattled.Quote:
You really have. I'm hoping N.E. borrows your notes on the Steelers.
"Blitz, blitz, blitz. NE doesn't have the CBs to run with a good HS team at this point so they're gonna have to keep Roethlisberger rattled."
I don't think that's going to work on anything but 3rd and long. If Bettis got loose past the front line, there'd be no one to stop him.
What they have to do (IMO) is put 8 (9!) in the box and make Pittsburgh have to work hard to move the field on the first drive. The more plays it takes, the bigger the chance for them to force a turnover like their usual opportunistic selves. Then the Pats offense just has to hold serve. If they score a touchdown, so be it.
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Originally Posted by Joust Williams
Joust is right. Bettis is the keystone here and halting him and the O-Line that can get ANY RB anywhere is the key. For the Steelers, they're going to have to use Burress more than Ward (this time around). Burress will have Gay on him for sure, and all day long. Pitt has to force NE out of zone defence and thats not going to be easy. Play action is going to play a big role here, unfortneatly the Pats aren't easily fooled. Bettis WILL have to establish himself (long story short). If the Bus doesn't get good mileage then you have to hope that the banged up Staley can pull through or the Steel is smelted. I however think that the Bus will indeed run, not simply by his will but by that amazing rush-centric Offensive Line. The Pats D has their work cut out for them. Basically, I see this as Unmovable Object meets Unmovable Object, the result should be inverted. I call a fairly (though not amazingly) high scoring game. That or a blow out. It ain't going to be 7 to 3 or some shite.
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Originally Posted by burgundy
Not mistaking anything the Pats do for invulnerable, let me put it more succiently.
When the Pats believe they are the underdogs, they simply don't lose. If the media had not covered the Colts the way they did in the week build-up, we would have had a different game, I'm almost sure of it. But you can't give this team a reason. Thats how the Pats work. When you give them a reason they go out there and make Bellicheck's worst plays seem like the plays of a genuis.
Thats it really. I don't belive the Pats are invulnerable, but its not something as simple as being incredibly well-coached either. Its more like, an X-factor, that the Pats have when it comes to games like this. I never said the Pats were invincible though, I just said, they aren't the same team in the postseason, they don't play the same. They hit harder, they run faster, and they just do things they aren't supposed to do.
I hope the Falcons and Patriots win because I hate the Eagles and Steelers. I can see both games going either way though. The weather could be a factor in the Eagles/Falcons game. I think the Falcons would have a better chance indoors. If I had to predict a Superbowl winner though, I would take the Patriots. I think they look like the best team.