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Now that the Xbox can be had new for $149.99 and used for about $120, I've been thinking about getting a box. The only thing that is really stopping me is trying to decide if there are enough games that will hold my interest. I have a small list of games that I would enjoy, but I want some input from you all about some of the must have games that are out or will be coming out (excluding Halo and Halo 2).
Burnout 3
Metal Slug 3
Ninja Gaiden
Guilty Gear XX
Street Fighter Collection (January, Live compatible)
Racing:
Project Gotham Racing 2
Rallisport 2
Colin McCrae 04 (05 is coming out soon)
Toca 2 Pro Race Driver
Non-Racing:
Splinter Cell 1/2
Panzer Dragoon Orta
Otogi
Knights of the Old Republic
Shenmue 2
Rainbox Six 3
Steel Battalion (if you got the money)
Sports (Not exclusives but better than other versions):
ESPN NHL 2k5
ESPN NFL 2k5
Coming Soon:
Halo 2
Fable
I am sure I am missing many great games...
It's definitely worth owning. Especially if you plan on playing online, then it's a must.
I just bought an XBOX a month ago, my first system from this generation of systems. A couple reasons:
Fable
Halo 2 (although I'd prefer it on PC)
and now
Outrun 2
Burnout 3
I'm in the same boat as you. I didn't get an Xbox at first because, outside of Halo, I didn't feel that there were enough good games (for me) on the system to justify a purchase. Although Halo 2 will finally break the straw on my non-Xbox back, I know that there are a bunch of other good games that will eventually make into my Xbox rotation once I'm through with Halo 2.
I concur with Nigel. The other reasons why I didn't buy the Xbox were because I don't have broadband nor have a compelling need to play the current Live games. Again, Halo 2 will change all that, but with Guilty Gear Reload and Street Fighter Collection also Live compatbile (I love fighting games), the system purchase is now a no-brainer (and will finally motivate me to get broadband in my home).Quote:
Originally Posted by Nigel
I guarantee you will not regret buying an Xbox. It is the alpha omega
Don't.
There's my advice.
I've been thinking about getting an xbox...if I had the money to spare I'd get one and sell my PS2. I may still do it...maybe in a few months.
I'm surprised no one's mentioned the upcoming Jade Empire.
I'll get an Xbox when the price drops again...
Do you already have a PS2? If you don't have any console from this gen, the PS2 should be your first choice, as it gets all the multiplatform titles (which happen to be almost all the top Xbox titles) and has a much better library of exclusives - unless you're modding the Xbox.
And if you really have to ask for input like this, it just means you can't justify the purchase to yourself at the present time, so you're probably better off waiting.
Well, it'd really, really help if you gave us a list of those games you wanna get, or at least a list of genres you like. Or if online gaming interests you. Or if you own any of the other systems.
Ultimately, the Xbox has the best version of most multiplatfor games, some really good exclusives (KOTOR, Jade Empire, Ninja Gaiden, PGR2, Rallysport Challenge 2, Outrun 2, JSRF, PDO, Otogi off the top of my head), has a lot of PC-centric games and ports (really good if your PC is stuck in the stone age) and has the best (and most) online enabled games. And it can be modded, if you're into that sort of thing.
If those things don't interest you, or if you knew all about what I said and you're still asking that question, then it sounds like you don't actually want one.
A modded or Japanese PS2.....yeah, I'll agree (it's all about that Bemani and those shmups). As PS2 that only plays US games......the Xbox is right on par. And Xbox games look 3X better, so there's your tie-breaker. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Mamoscott
Speaking of great-looking Xbox games, I gotta' go play me some Rallisport 2 later today. :)
Come on... modded or unmodded, the PS2 still makes either the Xbox or GC look pathetic when it comes to game library. Most of the worthwhile Japanese PS2 games come out over here anymore anyhow.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cheebs
The PS2 has the most games, but the best ones? Thats up for debate. I would say no, but Japanophiles would obviously disagree. However, their opinions are worthless so there you go.Quote:
Originally Posted by shidoshi
I was going to say something similar, but not as harsh. While the PS2 may have more games, I see a lot more XBOX games I'd rather play. I mean the last PS2 game I bought before Burnout 3 was Amplitude. Plus for multi-console releases I'd get the xbox version over the ps2 version (right now I get the GC version when I can).Quote:
Originally Posted by diffusionx
Well I caved and picked on up today. Along with the box, I got Metal Gear Solid 2 (I'm a sucker for this series and even though I beat it on PS2 before my PS2 broke, the VR missions were enough to justify the purchase), the JSRF/Sega GT combo (only 5 bucks and I liked the first Jet Grind game), and Tony Hawk 2X (loved the first 2 TH games and thought this would be cool for nostalgia and it was also only 5 bucks). I opted for these games right now, cause I wanted to get a few games and most of the other games I wanted I would have only been able to get one.
As for the games I want and genres I'm into, the past 2 years or so, I've really lost a lot of interest in most genres, but I want to get back into them. I want to give Prince of Persia a try, Ninja Gaiden, Tenchu, maybe Splinter Cell. And a few others I can't think of right now. I definately plan on getting Guilty Gear when that comes out but wont get live till around xmas. Conker is probly my most anticipated xbox release.
You probably bought 3 of the worst games you can get for your starting games.
Metal Gear Solid 2 is an absolutely horrible port. JSRF is an awful, awful, awful sequel that doesnt deserve to wipe the ass of the original, and Tony Hawk 2X... well that was a good game... like 4 years ago.
A better bet wouldve been to take the $15 you spent on all those and buying Freedom Fighters or Deathrow or Panzer Dragoon Orta.
But, in any case, its good to see one more Xbox owner. w00t!
Xbox is my favorite system this generation. Then again, mine is modded. Here are some gaming picks:
PORTS:
Prince of Persia
Max Payne 1&2
Beyond Good and Evil
Silent Hill 2&4
Fatal Frame
Grand Theft Auto
Splinter Cell 1&2
EXCLUSIVES:
KotOR
Riddick
Halo 1&2
Morrowind
Otogi
Ninja Gaiden
Deus Ex 2
Fable
There are tons of great games for Xbox and lots more to come!
KOTOR, Halo and Marowind are also available on PC. I'm not sure about Deus Ex 2 though.Quote:
Originally Posted by animegirl20
Come again?Quote:
Originally Posted by diffusionx
Oh... I get it! The PS2 has only faggot-chan games!!! That's what you call them, right?!? ^_^
You absolutely, postivitely could not be more mistaken.Quote:
Originally Posted by diffusionx
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Originally Posted by shidoshi
If I knew I was going to grow out of Japanese games this year, I would have never of bought the PS2. The only games I own for it are music games, so that being said it collects a lot of dust.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cheebs confirmed this and said
Surprise, you like one of the rare Japanese games on XBOX and it just so happens to be one of the worst games on the system.Quote:
You absolutely, postivitely could not be more mistaken.
Because opinions are now fact. I enjoyed JSRF even more than the original, something I didn't think was even possible.
40 Hellen's agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeremy
Anybody who would actually claim that the PS2 has no games beyond quirky Japanese titles - or Japanese titles period - is no better than the "faggot-chans" that they make fun of. Beyond the handfull of exclusive titles that all consoles have, the PS2 has nearly every worthwhile non-Japanese game that the other two consoles do.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sl1p
What the PS2 doesn't have that the Xbox does is a solid online set-up, and a number of those games with either better experiences online, or an online option at all where the PS2 version doesn't have it. But that wasn't the argument we were having.
JSRFuture could have come from an American or European company, and I still would have loved it just as much. I HATED the idea of the game at first, I hated the changes they had made over the original. (Change in how you tag, for example.) However, once I actually gave the game a shot, it is in almost all ways a better game than the original. The original's stages now feel too small and cramped, control is far better in Future, "no more stopping required" tagging is much more fun, the soundtrack was just as good as the original, the quality and possibility of grind runs was, for the most part, much improved over the original, grind combos were always tallied opposed to the original where you may or may not be shown your combo, the added "tricks" - while not all that complex - gave the game some extra flair over the original, and so on.Quote:
Surprise, you like one of the rare Japanese games on XBOX and it just so happens to be one of the worst games on the system.
It wasn't all good. The difficulty level - or lack of one - was utterly insulting. A few of the stages were under-realized in trick possibilities, the lack of a tag downloading system wasn't made up for by the crap tag editor, and there were a few other snags. Still, the game is phenominal, and in more ways than not shames the original. And this is coming from somebody who went into the game determined to hate it.
I personally think the only games that are worthwhile on PS2 are GTA3, Ico, Rez and Star Ocean 3 (and ToS when it comes out because I'm not buying a Cube for it). Of those, GTA is on Xbox and Rez on DC and very very downloadable. Beyond that, I'm not really feeling like I'm missing out on much. Snake Eater will be missed, as will San Andreas but I know there's only so many games I can play and Xbox/PC has spoken for them all.
It's really a matter of taste, which goes without saying, and what genres you perfer to play. For me, I need multiplayer (the sole reason I went from wanting to play Star Ocean 3 and NEEDING to play it is multiplayer) for a game to be worthwhile and failing that it has to be something like Morrowind or Fable.
For me the primary reason to own the PS2 has always been it's RPG library, which so completely and utterly destroys that of the GC and XBox it's not even funny. In one financial quarter the PS2 seems to get just about as many RPGs released for it as the GC or XBox individually have EVER gotten to date, it's phenomenal. Niche stuff like DDR and Mr Mosquito and what have you the PS2 also has the clear advantage in.
In just about every OTHER category, though, the XBox & GC have made great strides forward and now just about equal or even exceed that of the PS2.
XBox is generally worth owning for having a nice set of exclusive titles or games that the system got the best version of like KotOR and the Splinter Cell games. This thread has also mentioned just about made mention of everything worth owning for the system, and there's quite a bit.
As much of a Nintendo fanboy I've always been even I have to admit the XBox has clearly surpassed them into 2nd place in the current console wars and they have definitely had the best online strategy and network behind the system. Far and away worth owning, they've come a long way since launch when Halo was basically their one and only bread and butter game for the longest time.
Xbox beats the other systems as far as FPS are concerned. My favorite kind of game is RPG though and PS2 has all the best ones (especially since I am a Square whore).
I am actually not feeling the current Japanese RPGs anymore. I've grown out of them. I'm just getting tired of the whole Anime-inspired themes and designs that most of them have. I'm also getting tired of most new anime, so take that as you will.
Like Tracer, I feel like I'm not missing much by not owning a PS2. There are few games that I wish I could play, and those few do not outnumber the games I still desire to own on Xbox and just haven't gotten around to buying yet. The funny thing is that my friends don't even own a PS2, so I can't play what I'm missing at my friends like other people. And I don't care.
About JSRF, it's obvious that it's a love/hate game. I personally love it. The changes were okay with me, and didn't make the game less than JSR in any way; just different. There is nothing inherently wrong with the gameplay, so I can't see how this is one of the worst game on the box. And if it somehow is, then MS is doing a great job!
I'm asking this as a serious question and not a flame, though it probably sounds like the latter: has Square produced any good non-FF RPGs for PS2? Or any good non-RPG games for PS2 at all? It kind of irritates me because I can't think of any off the top of my head, and because they released so many original, quality PS1 titles in all kinds of genres. It seems like they dump all their effort into the next FF title and let some halfhearted shit drop out in between. I mean, I liked the Bouncer, all 5 minutes of actual gameplay, but we just haven't see stuff like Vagrant Story, Parasite Eve, Einhander, Bushido Blade, Chrono Cross, Tobal 2, Threads of Fate, or Brave Fencer Musashi (though that'll be changing soon) on PS2. Granted, stuff like Bushido Blade 2 wasn't that good, but I just want to see them doing some more varied, interesting things again. I mean, on PS2 there was... uh, Drakengard, and Unlimited SaGa, but... who cares? I can't be the only one who finds Square's output uninteresting this generation. I'm curious to see what Sakaguchi's Mist Walker does, though.Quote:
Originally Posted by animegirl20
Anyway, back to the point of the thread, I just packed a bunch of games to take with me back to Boston, and I took a couple PS2 titles, but the vast majority of them were Xbox games. Should tell you something. There's not much else I can say that anyone else didn't already, though. It's a worthy purchase, there's something for everyone, and nothing even comes close for netplay. If you like fighting games and have broadband, not owning an Xbox is probably a bad move. Lots of good stuff coming, and CvS2, despite Capcom's shitty netcode, is playable from time to time.
I wish more Japanese RPGs would take inspiration from American-style RPGs. KOTOR blew me away. Can't remember the last Japanese RPG that did that.Quote:
Originally Posted by SonofdonCD
Anyway, I like JSRF a lot. I like the colors and environments of the first a lot better, but it's a lot of fun, despite the lack of challenge. I don't get why it's so hated. It's a bit different, but it's not like it took your copy of JSR away, broke it, and then killed your dog and took a sloppy shit down your throat.
Shidoshi, I'm not going to call you a gay asian guy but give it a rest. He's was going to buy and has boughten an Xbox. I think you disliking Xbox (which is kind of bizarre because it is an awesome system) is a bit lame. This isn't GameFAQs, hating a system is.
As for Xbox, you have to try the following:
Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic (Best RPG this generation)
Splinter Cell or Splinter Cell: Pandora Tomorrow
Fable
Burnout 3 (Amazing racing experience. And I don't use the term experience lightly)
If you're looking for FPS obviously Halo is the way to go, but The Chronicles of Riddick were great too. Also, try Crimson Skies for an amazing flight combat game.
No, and it's one of the biggest tragedies this generation.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grave
I'm playing through MGS2:S right now and you know, I'm just not seeing how it is a horrible port. Gameplay seems to be dead on and graphics the same if not better. Way to many extras to even count, so where did they go wrong? Or are you just not a fan fo the series, cause honestly, aside from a complicated plot, the game is pretty flawless on the box.Quote:
Originally Posted by diffusionx
The reason I did not opt for the PS2 is cause I had one a few years back and it broke and I wanted to try something new. I will be missing MGS3 though. Any possibility of it coming to th box later?
i never understand these threads. do some people simply have review sites blocked from their computers? because a review is an opinion, and asking here what is worthwhile is the same thing....an opinion. so how many times do we have to do these? and everybody gets all bitchy and the arguing starts. :rolleyes:
Everyone I know that has both systems barely touches the PS2 anymore unless it's Japanese or 2D fighters. That will tell you something, which system is dominate.
What the f**k? The only nonsensical thing I've said in this thread was my original post, and that comes more from my dislike for Microsoft than any sort of "gay asian" stuff. The rest of what I've said has either been defending the fact that the PS2 has quality non-Japanese games, which it does, and listing reasons that I enjoyed JSR Future.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrew
You people are a broken record. You can't think of anything intelligent to say, so you just call somebody a "faggot-chan" or whatnot. And I love that you're calling out my dislike for Xbox when this forum is OVERRUN with moronic GameCube - and PS2, but not to such an extreme - bashing by people who are on the Xbox's dick. The difference is that I fully admit the Xbox is a great piece of hardware and it has some great games. A lot of them aren't for me, though, because they remind me of PC-style games, and I typically don't like that kind of stuff. I don't, however, use that as an excuse to call the system "gay" or the people who like it "gay."
nobody even mentioned "faggot-chan" until you did.
The xbox has tons of crap games, so dont be scared if it takes you a while before you find a few good games. It took me over 6 months before I accepted the xbox and both emulators and the xbox media center helped in the process. I still mostly use it for movie playback! ;D
I concur! I only got MGS2 last month and it is still some of the nicest graphics I have seen on xbox! Really well-produced game.Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkCrow676
I didn't like MGS2:Substance on Xbox because of the slowdown in the beginning and the controller.
There are crap games for all systems. Always has and always will. It's a fact of life.
Birth, taxes, crap games, death.
I'm pretty sure this isn't a word.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrew
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Originally Posted by Tojo
I have experienced no slow down whatsoever, and whats wrong with the controls? Is there not an option to have it pretty much just like the PS2 controls? Some people just have to bitch about everything.
boughtenQuote:
Originally Posted by animegirl20
\Bought"en\, a. Purchased; not obtained or produced at home. --Coleridge.
Nwo I am the lsat preson to bnirg up splelnig, but this Coleridge flelow smees to arege wtih me.
I may be wrong. He could have made his own Xbox at home from spare microwave and vibrator parts. But I think he'd rather have the vibrator.
Diff's mention of "Japanophiles" and their opinions not mattering, Andrew's "not wanting to" call me a "gay Asian guy"... it's all part of the same thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dragonmaster Dyne
You look tired. Try resting, your health meter will return slowly.Quote:
Originally Posted by shidoshi
p.s. Xbox doesn't have a dick. If anything it's a vagina because of the box reference.
OH SNAP!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrew
anyway, why not get an xbox? A modded xbox is a great media center.. and a hell of a lot cheaper than a PC.
Sony's lineup of games for the Playstation 2 are overwhelming if were talking about RPGs, STRPGS and JRPGs. There's barely a handful of decent RPG's on the other systems. Other then that, the PS2 isnt that big of a deal, the only reason I play mine is to buff up on the FF series. Out of that category, all the good gaming is found elsewhere.Quote:
Originally Posted by shidoshi
Well, they still managed to churn out Kingdom Hearts, one of the better, if not the best action/RPGs on the PS2, which really isn't saying much anymore considering how badly that subgenre gets overlooked nowadays. Front Mission 4 is also a pretty tightbangin' strategy/RPG, but compared to the recent Nippon Ichi ones and Square's own brilliant FFTA franchise, it pales in comparison.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grave
It's still pretty sad, though, that the PS2 has been out four years and Square has managed to churn out only 2 decent non-FF games for the system to date. The new Musashi game and KH2 should change that, but I think everyone expected more than this.
Exactly.Quote:
Originally Posted by DjRocca
Yes you should get an Xbox, Allthough its nowhere near as good as the people in here would lead you to believe.
Lack of diversity and character in software is the main offender, Its oversaturated with games that try to appeal to superficial gamers who only go after "gritty realism" or sandbox soft (see dull/generic and samey).
I have always tried to own each system during any generation,
SMS, Nes
Genny, SNES, TG16, Jaguar, 3do
PSone, Saturn, N64
GCN, PS2, XBOX
I liked each system for what it was, and never bashed a certain system before I owned it.
Some people just love to hate.
the motto of this board. i guess it makes them feel better about themselves.Quote:
Originally Posted by JMET
I saw random, horrible slowdown. Like in the hallway with all the roaches and EE. And no, you can't have the PS2 controls unless you add 2 more buttons to the Xbox controller. The PS2 version plays better, runs better, and has more extras. Nobody's trying to start stuff or anything, MGS2:S just isn't a title I'd use to showcase the Xbox. Not the end of the world, though.Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkCrow676
Just curious, what extras does the PS2 version have that the Xbox one doesn't?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mzo
Weird. Standard American English uses the verb "bought" in both past and past participle situations: "I bought" (past) and "I have bought" (past participle). However, "Boughten" is legitimate a past participle only form of the verb "buy" - I buy, I bought, I have boughten (think I freeze, I froze, I have frozen).Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrew
To people who use the verb "boughten", not using it as the past participle of of "buy" probably sounds as strange as saying "I have froze some steak for you".
XBoX rulezzz!@!!$!!!!1!!
Care to explain this? The way I see it, they both have the same number of buttons.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mzo
i guess they're not "laid out" the same. i cant honestly think of ever using all of the buttons for the game anyway.
Damn, all these posts and not one mentioned Star Wars: Battlefront?!?! Seriously, you guys are slipping.
Just made a thread about this game. It is going to be sweet. I'm gonna try to get Xbox live this week and set it up asap just for this game ... wel this and Guilty Gear XX.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spike
According to MGS2:S on Windows you can:Quote:
Originally Posted by Mzo
http://www.the-nextlevel.com/board/a...chmentid=11699
Damn guys, can't we all just get along?
I have no need personally to own an Xbox. My roomie owns one ;) Besides, I have my own huge pile to go through before buying anymore titles. And FFXI still takes away all my free time. Damn I'm screwed.
Three recommendations: Out Run 2, Psyvariar 2 (import), and Shikigami no Shiro II.
Think about the inventory system. Not the biggest flaw ever, but it is more annoying to use.Quote:
Originally Posted by Glass Joe
No it isn't. I played it for the PS2 and now for Xbox and have had no problem with the controls at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mzo
The default scheme for MGS2S on Xbox is horrible. Clicking down on the stick for first person sucks. I had an easier time adapting to TTS on the GameCube pad than I did using that. However, first person mode on R works well, but using black and white for leaning/inventory took a bit of practice before I got used to it. I still prefer the PS2 controller for MGS2, though, those functions all belong on the triggers.Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkCrow676
Matter of opinion, I wouldn't touch a Ps2 for a FPS the controler is too small and the R1 and L1 buttons suck as far as feel for a trigger. On the Xbox you're actually pulling a real trigger to shoot. The clicking in on the stick is great especially on Pandora tommorow, it's a really conveniant way to cycle through your inventory for speed when it matters.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grave
He is only talking about the first person viewpoint that you can use while playing Metal Gear Solid 2, not an overall controller preference for FPS games.Quote:
Originally Posted by BRAD73
i believe it is type C where x is pull out gun/shoot and a is first person. This setup works fine and is almost just like the PS2 control scheme. I played the PS2 version to death and had no trouble adapting to control scheme c on the box.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grave
I'm sure it's possible to adapt, it's just not necessary. This is one of the few games that are better on the PS2 =/
Sorry :(Quote:
Originally Posted by JM