The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion

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Originally Posted by sethsez

And as far as content goes, Daggerfall also had more of that,

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no. no no no no no.

i was a huge daggerfall fan, but morrowind trounces it in terms of unique content. hell, aside from the color of the grass and foliage sprites, 95% of the wilderness was exactly the same. town-to-town travel was improved a thousand fold in morrowind, with clearly defined paths, bridges, landmarks, etc. don't even get me started on the dungeons. shudder.

the best thing daggerfall had going for it was its very diverse climates. there was something special about going from a tropical paradise to a desert palace at the click of the mouse. the clearly defined seasons helped a lot, too. i loved waking up in the morning to find the streets covered with snow (with the townspeople dressed appropriately,) then there was the great seasonal music.. much better than the six(!!!!!) or so tracks in morrowind.

Like I said, Daggerfall has more stuff than Morrowind does, but what Morrowind has it does much better.

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Originally Posted by StriderKyo

Two things that need to change in Oblivion:

Bards need to actually do Bardly things. It would have been so much cooler if I could have earned cash in the early levels by playing at taverns (it's not like there aren't plenty in Balmora) instead of running around picking leaves and stabbing slugs. It took me forever to find a lute, and I had to massacre an entire vampire clan just to get it. I only know the location of one more - in the tavern near Wolverine Hall - in the entire world, and what's more they serve no function. Just decoration.

Bretons need to stop screaming like beeyotches when they get hit. For crying out loud, I've exceeded the limit of normal human strength, I'm level 44, I've single handedly defeated entire inter-dimensional demonic cults and I'm the Archmage of Vvardenfell, but if I get hit too hard I let out this annoying Gilbert Godfried squeal. Unmanly!



I never got why they say that.

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You think the bretons were bad, listen to an aragonian hiss sometime, sounds like someone deflated a tire with a harmonica :lol: amd for the elves thing, it seemed to be scripted to nords(eydis fire-eye used to say it constantly) so im not sure of the reference, they are historicaly the enemies of the dunmer(back when they were chimer) so maybe they are laughing at the irony of their situation.
And for the bardy things, im with you on that, non-combat actions are cool for me, maybe you coudl do a group disposition raise by playing a song dear to a particular race, or even take on a "companion" of a hero who likes havign a bard around to sing his songs.

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I really despised the Cliff Racers until I figured out I could make levitiation potions from their feathers. It made navigating the Ashlands tons easier.

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Good news, cliff racers and dragons are enemies, dragons are sacred in cyroodill, so those bastards are toast! As a bit of trivia, racers are the reason there are no dragons in morrowind, so their numbers are annoying enough to cause extinctions.

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And you know there'll be expansions, too. Hopefully it's not actually smaller, but just cuts out the repetition. There were an awful lot of bandit caves and abandoned fortresses that were pretty much identical. I also hope they don't cave into the mainstream's need for linearity. I must have played 100 hours without doing anything in the Blades quest.

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you know, as much as i loved the scope of morrowind, there was some fat to trim, look at the ashlands, how often did you go into them? probably not much due to the annoying ashstorm effect, but also because they were barren, ugly and at times wasted space. If oblivion promises more busy areas with more interesting things to do in the smaller space, then i wont be mad. and the modders WILL be on this mofo, they are already gearing up.

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I just wish all those Dunmer helmets were tougher. They put so much work into making them look cool, but there's no reason to wear them after level 5 or so. My character wears one of those badass Dark Brotherhood ninja helmets in non life-threatening battles.

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soem times cool is good enough, forstwolf is so tough now i take dremora lords on wearing jsut exquisite clothes, once you become godlike, it really does become a matter of personal style. besides, telvanni didnt rely on force of arms,armor for wizards is largely there for enchanting or ceremony. admittedly they really didnt hold too impressive of an enchantment, but they always looked cool, devil cephlapod helms made me lament my lot as an aragonian.



EDIT: PEPSIMANVS.JOE----- The mod you want is on euro-morrowind, its called cliffracer(one word or it wont work) remover, its by aaron, use the search engine to get it. It actually fixes the cliff racer problem in 3 possible ways that you can choose, it either removes them all, makes them passive, or just reduces the number to something more reasonable.

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Big preview (gamespy)

go pc/xbox 2! (thanks to redbeard, gaf, for the links)

I'll stick with the pc version with all the mod support and expansion I'm sure it'll have. Its nice to see those shots are actual pc shots. It looks fantastic and I can't wait!!

http://pcmedia.ign.com/pc/image/arti...2095721109.jpg

:eep: That can't be real. It just can't. Microsoft are fools if they don't move heaven & earth to keep this Xbox/PC exclusive.

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Originally Posted by Allen Rausch in that Gamespy article

The world of Tamriel [in Morrowind] was beyond huge. Players could wander the countryside for months, coming across randomly generated quests and dungeons that were so elaborate they rivaled the main quests in lesser RPGs. On top of that, the "living world" that Bethesda created worked so well, players could return to a cleared out random dungeon a few game months later only to find out that a completely new group of monsters had moved in and new quests had been generated.

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Is that true? I don't remember coming across anything like that at all in Morrowind. Some of the fetch quests were generic enough that they could have been randomly generated, but they all had unique dialogue so they seem scripted to me.

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Originally Posted by StriderKyo

Is that true? I don't remember coming across anything like that at all in Morrowind. Some of the fetch quests were generic enough that they could have been randomly generated, but they all had unique dialogue so they seem scripted to me.

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No random stuff in Morrowind as far as I know. Maybe he meant Daggerfall.

No way that shot can be real...no way.. God I hope its real.

Look at the armor on the character on the left, it's a painting.

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Originally Posted by MechDeus

Look at the armor on the character on the left, it's a painting.

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after looking closer, iawtp.

still, it looks like we won't have to worry about shitty textures/models. bethesda's artists have outdone themselves.

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Originally Posted by StriderKyo

That can't be real. It just can't. Microsoft are fools if they don't move heaven & earth to keep this Xbox/PC exclusive.

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Don't worry. It'll look like shit on Xbox, so it might as well be PC exclusive.