The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion

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Originally Posted by diffusionx

He didnt make any comparisons, though. Whats your point?

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My point is that not making comparisons is a bad thing. Without them, you have no idea what baseline he's using to judge the game. It's easy to say "the load times aren't good and the popup is very noticeable." But compared to what? Without him having played Morrowind, I have no idea if the loading and draw-in issues are better or worse.

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Originally Posted by diffusionx

Yea I said the same thing ass.

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Morrowind brought computers to their knees (and so did Daggerfall) but it was still an amazing game. That's why I took issue with your comment about "disappointed gamers."

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Originally Posted by bVork

My point is that not making comparisons is a bad thing. Without them, you have no idea what baseline he's using to judge the game. It's easy to say "the load times aren't good and the popup is very noticeable." But compared to what? Without him having played Morrowind, I have no idea if the loading and draw-in issues are better or worse.

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I think the opposite is true. If he has nothing to compare it to he's not being blinded by nostalgia, and everything he's experiencing is unique and he's judging it only on what he's experiencing and how much fun he's having doing it.

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Morrowind brought computers to their knees (and so did Daggerfall) but it was still an amazing game. That's why I took issue with your comment about "disappointed gamers."

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Maybe he was just saying in general for this new generation? Even so, Morrowind was hardly the be-all-end-all RPG people originally totted it as.

Yeah,it was nice and open and all, but maybe a little too open.

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My point is that not making comparisons is a bad thing. Without them, you have no idea what baseline he's using to judge the game. It's easy to say "the load times aren't good and the popup is very noticeable." But compared to what? Without him having played Morrowind, I have no idea if the loading and draw-in issues are better or worse.

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I assume compared to every other game he's played. Pop-up and shitty loadtime and draw-in sucks no matter the game. You can tolerate it sometimes more than others but I dont wanna be playing a game with Saturn Daytona USA pop-up in 2006. I think he was pretty explicit in how sucky it was.

And I think gamers will be dissapointed because the hype is out of control and they're gonna expect something that is, well, not a Betheseda game.

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I think the opposite is true. If he has nothing to compare it to he's not being blinded by nostalgia, and everything he's experiencing is unique and he's judging it only on what he's experiencing and how much fun he's having doing it.

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Ditto.

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Originally Posted by Andrew

I think the opposite is true. If he has nothing to compare it to he's not being blinded by nostalgia, and everything he's experiencing is unique and he's judging it only on what he's experiencing and how much fun he's having doing it.

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By that logic only people who have never played a video game before should review games. ;)

I don't get the review from Wired. He's mad that the graphics aren't what he feels they should be.

And?

Who is planning on playing Oblivion for the graphics? :confused:


The review should have been this -

Did you like Daggerfall? (A) Yes (B) No

Did you like Morrowind? (A) Yes (B) No

If you answered "A" to either question above the chances are you will like Oblivion.

shit, dont read 1ups preview. It makes you want the game BAD.

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Originally Posted by NeoZeedeater

By that logic only people who have never played a video game before should review games. ;)

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No, I'm saying it's not harmful in anyway to not be experienced with a predecessor to a game you're about to review It's really a non-factor, which is the point. It's not an issue that he hasn't played Morrowind before reviewing Oblivion, as bVork was trying to say.

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Originally Posted by diffusionx

I assume compared to every other game he's played. Pop-up and shitty loadtime and draw-in sucks no matter the game. You can tolerate it sometimes more than others but I dont wanna be playing a game with Saturn Daytona USA pop-up in 2006. I think he was pretty explicit in how sucky it was.

And I think gamers will be dissapointed because the hype is out of control and they're gonna expect something that is, well, not a Betheseda game.



Ditto.

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yeah thats what everybody probably feared from the beginning
it would keep some of the awful draw distance & framerate problems from Morrowind


but then again...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...bscap01777.jpg
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yea because screenshots are never doctored or taken at detail levels that the engine runs at 2 fps.