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The most brilliant comic strip ever fucking created. Share your thoughts.
It's pretty good. I guess.
To this day my favorite comic ever created. Why? The characters for one thing. Normally kid characters are nothing special but Calvin was something different. The interaction he had with Hobbes helped set him apart and really the art brought it to another level. While 90% of newspaper comics look so plain and simple Waterson was drawing landscapes, all sorts of incredible animals (dinosaurs!) and he just pushed what was normally seen in the comics section. And it was funny as hell. My new favorite is Get Fuzzy and before I found that, Liberty Meadows (which is now sold in comic book form). Both cartoonists for GF and LM (Frank Cho especially) are amazing artists.
Frank Cho is a great artist. I remember meeting him at the San Diego Comic-Con a couple years ago. He drew me a sketch and signed my copy of "Frank Cho Illustrator"
Aside from also being a huge fan of Bloom County/Outland, I feel exactly the same way Rumpy does.
Calvin and Hobbes was/is amazing.
It sucked.
You're crazy.
Calvin and Hobbes was, is, and continues to be awesome.
Oh yah. Simpsons of comic strips. Relevant, insightful and helarious.
incorrect. calvin and hobbes got better with age.Quote:
Originally Posted by NoboruWataya
Bill Watterson is a much smarter man then the people who are running the Simpsons now. Additionally he pulled a Beatles/Grace Kelly/Kurt Flood and quit at the height of his power.
Furthermore:
How come every time I bring up the Simpsons someone makes the same stupid fucking comment, disguised to be relevant to the situation at hand. I get it, it's past it's prime.
calvin and hobbes is fantastic, the most artistic (not only in drawing style, but in humour and message) comic strip i've ever read.
MY favorite strip is a sunday one where Calvin is sitting on the dorstep to his house talking to his dad. He asks him why old photos are in black and white and his dad tells him it is because the world used to be black and white.
So calvin asks another question, why are old paintings in color; his dad tells him that they changed color with everything else.
It goes on like this, Calvin finding more questions and his dad finding rediculous ways to awnser them.
Which is your (plurl) favorite alter ego? Tracer Bullet, Stupendous Man or Spaceman Spiff.
And the invetions: Time Machine, Duplicator, Transmogrifier (Boink!)
Remember when Calvin went back in time to tell himself to start a book report two hours ago, and them comes back and Hobbes has wrote it for him....ohhh yah.
because it's true. normally i wouldn't bite, but seeing as how this is a calvin and hobbes thread..Quote:
Originally Posted by NoboruWataya
in other news,
http://www.the-nextlevel.com/board/a...chmentid=11756
:cry::cry::cry:
Calvin & Hobbes > Garfield > *
Iv'e still got that one, cut out of a Atlanta newspaper.
You used Calvin & Hobbes and Garfield in the same sentence... :cry::cry::cry:Quote:
Originally Posted by DjRocca
Garfield was a PoS solely made for merchandising, Watterson wouldn't let anyone make any C&H merchandising.
More importantly, Calvin & Hobbes is funny.
I loved Calvin and Hobbes. Especially all the snow men strips. I wish there was a book of just those alone, I'd buy it. They were just outrageously funny, but subtle too.
I never found it funny.
However, I found it enjoyable. If that makes sense.
^
Uhh, Yeah
Heh...and cue Tracer's response...
Last strip ever, right?Quote:
Originally Posted by epmode
I remember waiting for it... I was imagining something like a grown up, mid-30's Calvin getting home from work and stuff, sitting on his desk, and looking over at an old beat-up Hobbes doll that didn't move anymore.
That thought can still make me cry a little =/
I respect Watterson for his decisions on this. It is clear that he loved drawing Calvin and Hobbes and that is why he did it, not for money, unlike a fat orange cat.Quote:
Originally Posted by AstroBlue
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Originally Posted by Mzo
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Stop that, you're going to get me started again :cry:Quote:
Originally Posted by The_Meach
That sucks. I was going to make a thread chiding the people who buy all that C&H merchandise if they knew that Watterson never licensed it.
But yeah, best evar.
Unfortunately I never got into C&H, I think I missed a lot of good stuff.
Best comic strip ever (along with The Far Side), and very touching at times. I get what Opaque was talking about with it not always being funny, but always being entertaining.
It was actually pretty deep if you thought about it, too...not to mention sad. I mean, poor Calvin was a disturbed little boy who took the "imaginary friend" concept waaaay too far and his father was a neglectful asshole who lied to him all the time.
What Calvin and Hobbes merchandise? Other than the cheesy Calvin pissing stickers I see on car windows there's nothing that I know of.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike
The Calvin pissing one spawned a shitload of other things, and I consider them all illegal merchandise. However, there are t-shirts, mugs, posters, etc. LOL:Quote:
Originally Posted by Dolemite
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...707248741&rd=1
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...925756922&rd=1
The only legal merchandise are the books, and I own them all.
A cigar box purse?
Group hug everybody :cry: :cry: :cry:Quote:
Originally Posted by Mzo
Calvin and Hobbes is one of the most intelligent comics that will ever be in the newspaper. One strip I can think of off hand is when he wanted to buy a death metal album that glorified death and suicide. And then his mother told him that the band was really in it for the money. And he says something like "You mean nihilism can't be trusted?" and when she tells him no the next scene he says "Childhood can be so disillusioning" I still think that one is hilarious
The cats and the cradle and the silverspoon, little boy blue and the man in the moon, when you comin' home son? I don't no when... we'll get together then...Quote:
Originally Posted by Genki
:cry:
Perhaps the only thing more depressing than the absence of Calvin & Hobbes is the current state of the comic strip page in the newspapers.
With very rare exceptions, it is pure three-panel hell.
And it's only getting smaller and more downsized annually.
Or that the sun was the size of a quarter?Quote:
Originally Posted by NoboruWataya
My favorite alter ego is hard to choose. Might seem obvious to choose Tracer Bullet but I used the names Stupendous Man and Spaceman Spiff before this. I don't think I could chose one... probably Spaceman Spiff, he had more comics and the art in those were phenominal.
Calvin & Hobbes was the best there ever has been and Wattersons work remains as part of my very own philosopy.
And the Duplicator provided the best comic strips, so thats easily the best invention.
As an aside, if you own so-called Calvin & Hobbes merchandise - go to hell. Books ARE the only thing approved by Watterson and C&H should be respected, not depicted praying to a chevrolet symbol.
No love for Captain Napalm?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tracer
P.S. I'll kick anyone's arse at Calvinball.
No way, I tagged you out at the 23rd base.Quote:
Originally Posted by AstroBlue
Since you were in the Song Zone, now you have to spin around blindfolded and sing the "Mzo is Great" song.
Ah, but song zone is also in the boomerang zone, so whatever you decree now applies to you instead
<-- pwned at Calvinball =(
Damn, Calvinball was awesome. People should play "make up the rules as you go" sports in real life.
I miss Calvin. :cry:
I still have a paper mache mask I made in high school art class (that was about 1989 probably) hanging on my wall (my son loves that). I used to draw Calvin on everything. I made a huge poster for my then girlfriend that she hung over her bed. I just had pages and pages of him in my notebooks, panels I'd copied from the books or paper. I still have all my C&H books. You can get them pretty cheap at Borders.
I'd have to go with Spaceman Spiff. And the transmogrifier.
One of my favorite strips is the one where Calvin plays the onion in the school play.
My favorite is probably Tracer Bullet, I loved the art in those. And Calvin messing with Susie was the best. He's looking at her funny and she goes. "What?" and he replies, "I can't see the line where they did the lobotomy. Impressive work." And she does "You're so weird." Or when he loses Hobbes and he freaks out. Or whenever his mom put Hobbes in the wash, it always looked funny seeing him climb out of the dryer.
don't feel bad, my brothers and I actually used to play calvinball, or as close to calvinball as we could get based off of what they showed of the sportQuote:
Originally Posted by Mzo
Remember G.R.O.S.S. (Getting Rid Of Slimey girlS )
I quote (or paraphrase) the strip pretty often. My favorite line is whenever someone says something fantastical or how they want something I'll bust out with "As long as we're dreaming, I'd like a pony." That one with Suzy is probably my favorite one ever.
Mzo: That thought of yours was sad, the thought hadn't even crossed my mind. Never share again.
So many favorite strips, but the first one that pops into my mind:
TYRRANOSAURS IN F-14'S!!!
Any of his alien landscapes are truly wonderful art. Most especially the one where Calvin is going, "KAZAAM!" and transforming things, then gets sent to his room and transforms the outside into Mars. Really cool. I'm going to read my books and post some favorites.
This is a joke right? Phew.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dolemite
lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by AstroBlue
Suzy was the best. :) I remember being really pleasantly surprised (though I shouldn't have been) when I read this speech Waterson gave and listed Peanuts, Krazy Kat, and Pogo as being the best comic strips. He was right about the first two anyway, I haven't read a lot of Pogo unfortunately. He also raised the idea of a kind of comics magazine that I think could have been neat. It's a shame that when he ended Calvin and Hobbes he bowed out of doing anything else in the medium because he obviously had a great understanding of it. But oh well, people should let him live his life now.
Actually he hated it. Well, to be exact he hated the confines that the newpapers kept comics in. Small section, very limited space for each comic (he hated sticking to 3 panels across for example, that's why you see such variety in his panels).Quote:
Originally Posted by Salsashark
Would have been great if he went to comics like Frank Cho did with Liberty Meadows (which allowed him to go back to some previous work and unedit them). Can't recall if they made Watterson change things like they made Cho change things. But I bet the C&H fan base would have followed him to the comic book store. I know I would have. Man that would have been sick.
I wasn't talking about making squished strips in newspapers, I just meant comics in general. That's sort of what I was talking about; he had this big speech about why comic strips were crap and he brought up the idea of maybe having a magazine format for artists to have the creative freedom they needed to make something good. I don't blame the guy for getting out of the newspaper strip business.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rumpy
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Originally Posted by Error
Here ya go:
http://search.barnesandnoble.com/boo...6218833&itm=13
Actually, Watterson never answered the question as to whether or not Hobbes was imaginary. He felt it wasn't important. Clearly in some stories it appeared like Hobbes was real. I do find it funny how Watterson never gave the parents any names.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dolemite
For more Calvin And Hobbes love:
http://www.ucomics.com/calvinandhobbes/
You know, I really wish Watterson would have just licensed a Hobbes (in "reality" mode) plush. That would be awesome.
[QUOTE=Acid Dragon]Here ya go:
http://search.barnesandnoble.com/boo...6218833&itm=13
Awesome! Thanks a bunch. :)
I would have bought one in a second.Quote:
Originally Posted by AstroBlue
Come to think of it, a huge collection of The Far Side was released recently (collectors edition is like 200 bucks). I'd love to see a big ass collection like that for C & H, pain in the ass having all these books around (I count 6 in my room right now). There were so many made I'd like to get them all in one shot on awesome paper and shit.
Good as it is, unless my memory is completely shot: Attack of the Deranged Monster Killer Mutant Snow Goons isn't a collection of only the snowman comics. It does feature a pretty long story around them though.Quote:
I think my favorite book was Scientific Progress Goes Boink. I don't remember though, since whenever I read Calvin and Hobbes now I pull out the collections like Essential and don't really think of which books are included in them.
I love the one where he takes the picture of Hobbes pouncing on him when he comes home from school.
There is no collection featuring, specifically, snowmen in C&H. rezo is correct, the book is just a series of comic strips compiled together which is repeated in, I belive, "The Essential Calvin & Hobbes," book. The minor books are unfortunatly outdated since the collections have nice 'inrto' original work in them as well as at least two smaller books worth of comics in them. Revenge of the Baby-Sat was my favorite small book, Homicidal Psycho Jungle Cat was my favorite overall.Quote:
Originally Posted by rezo
And it looks like a stuffed animal flying at the camera.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mzo
damn. oh well.
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Originally Posted by Rumpy
Your lucky day
I read about this in August and was considering making a thread, but it was dated some time ago, so I thought everyone might've known. Wonder if there will be any signed editions ala Far Side. Seems less likely
edit - didn't load quite right when I clicked, so -
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Huge 'Calvin' Comic Collection Coming
By Dave Astor
Published: July 19, 2004
NEW YORK If your bookcase survived last year's "Complete Far Side," prepare for another massive collection from Andrews McMeel Publishing -- of every "Calvin and Hobbes" comic.
AMP's "Calvin and Hobbes Omnibus Collection," scheduled for September 2005 release, will include three hardcover volumes of 480 pages each and sell for $150. Gary Larson's "Complete Far Side" featured a total of 1,266 pages in two volumes that retailed for $135.
The 1985-launched "Calvin and Hobbes" ran in more than 2,400 papers via Universal Press Syndicate before Bill Watterson retired at the start of 1996.
While the collection of Watterson's work is more than a year away, AMP is publishing many other books this fall. Slated for September release, for instance, is "The Religion War" non-"Dilbert" hardcover by "Dilbert" creator Scott Adams of United Feature Syndicate. A sequel to "God's Debris" by Adams, it's "set several decades in the future when the smartest man in the world steps between international leaders to see if he can prevent a catastrophic confrontation between Christianity and Islam that would destroy most of civilization."
In October, AMP will publish a hardcover book by Universal foreign-affairs columnist Georgie Anne Geyer. "When Cats Reigned Like Kings" is a product of Geyer's worldwide research into "the little-known puzzle of how cats came to occupy their unique position in the lives of humans."
SWEEEEEEET!!
But oh so wallet-crushing.
so will there be anything in the collection for people that already have every book/treasury?
I am putting aside $150.00 right now to make sure that I own this, even though I have every book already. There HAS to be some stuff in it. Perhaps they will include comments between books by Watterson, in the vein of that 10th anniversary book he made.
It depends...the smae publisher put out "Complete Far Side"...were there any extras in that?Quote:
Originally Posted by epmode
Hmm...these comic collections are becoming more and more like DVD releases...complete series, extras, etc.
This is cool news. God's Debris was a very thought-provoking read.Quote:
While the collection of Watterson's work is more than a year away, AMP is publishing many other books this fall. Slated for September release, for instance, is "The Religion War" non-"Dilbert" hardcover by "Dilbert" creator Scott Adams of United Feature Syndicate. A sequel to "God's Debris" by Adams, it's "set several decades in the future when the smartest man in the world steps between international leaders to see if he can prevent a catastrophic confrontation between Christianity and Islam that would destroy most of civilization."
Oh, yes, and C&H rules, etc. etc.
Watterson seems like a bit of a grump, though. I can see him wanting them not to make a cartoon, since it would have to define Hobbes' real/imaginary form, but no merchandising at all was a tad much. If he would have allowed merchandise and donated all the profits to a charity of his choice, he could have done a lot of good. And his grousing on the state of the comics... they gave his sunday strips the largest space allocation that any comic had gotten since the 60s. I'm sure he would have made good use of a larger space, but if he was so gung-ho about more space to work in, why hasn't he put out a full-size children's book or something since C&H? He's had plenty of time, and a publishers would jump at the chance, but he's dropped completely off the map since.
I'd like to at least know what he's doing now. Even if it's a simple "I'm alive and things are good."
Can't wait to see what that collection looks like, I'm getting that for sure.
And here's a special shout out to YAWA for his Hobbes avatar. Whenever I see it I imagine Hobbes saying whatever he posted. "Listen, keep the bullshit posts to Fight Club okay? Thanks. Want to go sledding?"
Watterson has become something of an eccentric recluse, from what I've read. He won't even sign autographs or anything. He just kinda does his own thing.
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Originally Posted by Rumpy
I think he lives out in a cabin, in some small backwater town.
He's in a smallish suburban Ohio town. The townsfolk keep quiet about him.
There is no price to great, btw, for that C&H collection, despite the fact that I already own every book made and even have the last two Sunday pages he ever did framed.
Hmm... I'm sure the presentation of this new collection will look fantastic, but unless there's some new stuff/commentary/extra shit I wouldn't drop 130 bucks for it, especially since damn near all of the regular collections are priced at bargain book prices at Borders (15 bucks or less)
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Originally Posted by Dolemite
I think I posted this before, but it bears repeating...Quote:
Originally Posted by Mzo
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Fight Club
The Return of Hobbes
Hobbes is reborn as Tyler to save "Jack" (a grown-up Calvin) from the slough of un-comic despair.
::: Galvin P. Chow
In the film Fight Club, the real name of the protagonist (Ed Norton’s character) is never revealed. Many believe the reason behind this anonymity is to give "Jack" more of an everyman quality. Do not be deceived. "Jack" is really Calvin from the comic strip Calvin and Hobbes. It’s true. Norton portrays the grown-up version of Calvin, while Brad Pitt plays his imaginary pal, Hobbes, reincarnated as Tyler Durden. Continued>
I don't know why... but I am kind of offended by that C&H - FC link.
I always imagined Calvin would grow up to be this awesome, caring, creative person. Not a schizophrenic, nihilist, actuary... :(
That's pretty weird. This got a laugh out of me though.
http://metaphilm.com/images/philms/fightclub_photo2.jpg
"There are eight rules of Fight Club."
That's pretty much how I feel about it too. However, one person or group of persons interpertation isn't going to really change what I personally think about C&H.Quote:
Originally Posted by AstroBlue
Exactly.
Lets form a Calvin and Hobbes board.
: )
What, no, why should Watterson ruin his own creation to donate to charity? Fuck that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bacon McShig
I'd post there. =DQuote:
Originally Posted by youandwhosearmy
::sobbing like a schoolgirl::Quote:
Originally Posted by Mzo
Your imagination HATES you!!
Don't ever write a wildly successful comic that is a perfect encapsulation of my childhood only to end it crushingly, sending me into early retirement at the psycho ward, okay?
A couple hours ago I mention the upcoming Calvin and Hobbes collection to one of my roommates who then picks up The Essential Calvin and Hobbes from off my shelf. He proceeds to look at the back cover picture of Calvin stomping around a town and begins listing off shops, which puzzles me because I can't think of any time when they mentioned specific stores in the comic. I take a look at the picture and he asks me if I recognize it, when it suddenly dawns on me that the intersection is from a nearby county!* I had always thought it was just some random drawing like most comics but somehow the knowledge that Calvin was stomping through an actual area in this region brings me a little bit of joy.
*Watterson lives in Ohio, for the uninformed.
I wish he wouldn't destroy all his more recent art, I'd like to see some of it. :(
http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/0836...76#reader-link
For Reference.
That's the Popcorn Shop he's holding in his hand, FYI.
If you look here the header image shows the view of the left side of that page along with the middle veranda (Terrace? I can't remember what those are called.).
Gazebos, Mech.
Chagrin falls? What a sad name. No wonder Calvin's trashing it.
Last one for the night: Calvin and Hobbes
Have a good night folks. See you tomorrow.
http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/152/bossebjm5.jpg
Says "YES!"
But
http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/4923/calvinos2.gif
Says, "No!"
(he WOULD!) </theological joke>
I still miss C&H. And old-school Bloom County. In it's early days BC was so awesome.
You just bump threads with the stupidest shit, I swear.Quote:
Originally Posted by Doc Holliday
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...rheesX2/CH.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by Mzo
Not quite the same, but a similar premise.
That's sad.
T-Shirt hell is selling a bootleg Calvin and Hobbes shirt. They just released it in their latest update.
Hobbes is eating Calvin. It actually made me angry when I saw it.
Ironic that the only comic strip to ever have artistic integrity over merchandise licensing would become the most bootlegged of all time.
Ironic, or expected?
That's fucking retarded.Quote:
Originally Posted by Josh
I don't think I've ever seen a bootleg Calvin and Hobbes product that wasn't offensive in some way.
I saw some vinyl stickers on a car once taken from one of the "Calvinball" panels.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dolemite
I did want.
Course this was back in art school, so they probably made it themselves.
I had a shirt of the C&H logo back in the day. It was slick. I didn't know about the merchandising then or I wouldn't have bought it.
I worked at a library when I was younger. One summer, I went through all the Calvin & Hobbes collection books, and photocopied the funniest, cutest, or most poignant ones. I kept one copy of each for myself, and sent the others to my girlfriend, who was out of state for the summer. I remember pasting a real cute pic of Calvin on the front of one of the oversized envelopes. 'Twas a simpler time.
I liked The Far Side in late Elementary School, and Garfield before that (when I didn't know any better). But nothing came close to the all-in-one satisfaction C&H comics could consistently deliver. And I know I'll still enjoy them no matter how old I get.
Garfield holds a special place in my heart. Not because it was any good, but because my late grandfather loved reading it. He'd always go on about "that crazy cat!"
My grandfather always talked about "those crazy darkies"
There is no excuse for liking Garfield.
I want Waterson to do shit again.
http://www.vidiLife.com/video_play_1...in_Hobbes_.htm
Tommy Tallarico
That kicked ass.
This thread almost went three full years without that piece of shit rearing its knotted head.Quote:
Originally Posted by BerringerX
My grandfather loves the peanuts comics and marx brothers, he has a whole bunch of them and refrences them now and then.